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Apparently, she is accused of marrying her brother to circumvent immigration laws.
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Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress
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So sez the evidence including who the prosecutors are and who provided tge money to get them elected in these heavy blue areas.
Glad we agree that committing felonies against people's property to intimidate them for political reasons is violence. Violence does not always end in death.
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Yeah, if that is the case then I would think that would be illegal. And if so, she should be deported.
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More false accusations: [this claim was never substantiated]
"Wasn’t she the one that married her brother in order to gain citizenship??? What SCUM we have in our Country, telling us what to do, and how to do it. Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
...but of course with Trump, he doesn't care. He got plenty of traction with people who believe the birther crap.
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He wasn't nice the first the first time.
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Haven’t we had a US president married to his cousin? Seems she’s assimilated just fine into our society.
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For some, that is the problem.
1) She's an intelligent and articulate woman
2) She's from one "those countries"
3) She's a Muslim
......and she's had more death threats than probably any other member of Congress*. She's in a position to call out those pushing a narrative that political violence only comes from "the Left".
* Two men have been convicted
Prosecuted threats
- Patrick Carlineo Jr.: In 2019, a New York man, Patrick Carlineo Jr., pleaded guilty to threatening to assault and murder Omar because of her Muslim faith. He left a message with a staffer that included the statement, "I'll put a bullet in her skull". He was sentenced to one year in prison.
- David Hannon: In 2022, a Florida man, David Hannon, pleaded guilty to threatening a federal official. In 2019, he sent an email to Omar with the subject line "(You're) dead, you radical Muslim". He was sentenced to three years of probation and fined $7,000.
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That is not even the primary concern. The biggest being that she is a sitting member of congress and her primary loyalties are to Somalia.
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Ref #2.
Naturalized Citizens take an oath:
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
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Yes. They have already been shared on these forums on multiple occasions.
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Are you talking about this?
Ilhan Omar speech proved to be mistranslated but outrage continues spread
Republicans, rightwing figures and foreign politicians have seized upon the video despite proof the lawmaker was misquoted
According to the Minnesota Reformer, a Minnesota-based news outlet, which worked with two independent Somali translators, Omar said: “We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim”, not that she was “Somalians first” as the video suggested.
Omar’s speech accurately translates to the following:
“As Somali people, we are people who love each other. We might have some disagreements, but when things get real, we are people who have each other’s backs. We are brothers and sisters, courageous people, and people who know they are Somalis and Muslims, and support each other and their brethren.
When we heard the other day that some Somali people—or who claim to be Somalis—signed an agreement with Ethiopia, many people called me and said to me, ‘Ilhan, you should talk to the U.S. government. What’s the U.S. government going to do about this?
My answer was that the U.S. government would do what we ask it to do. We should have this kind of confidence in ourselves as Somalis. We live in this country, we are taxpayers. This is the country where one of your own is sitting in Congress. As long as I am in Congress, no one can take Somalia’s sea, and the U.S. government won’t support others to rob us. Don’t stress over it, Minnesotans.”
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It wouldn't be a problem at all, other than the time I would be wasting.
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It appears the oath meant little to her because of her loyalties to Somalia. But thats okay because Muslims are allowed to lie to infidels.
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Lying, even to non-Muslims, is one of the greatest of sins according to the teachings Islam.
"Avoid falsehood, for falsehood leads to wickedness, and wickedness to Hell; and if a man continues to speak falsehood and makes falsehood his object, he will be recorded in God's presence as a great liar. And adhere to the truth, for truth leads to good deeds, and good deeds lead to Paradise. If a man continues to speak the truth and makes truth his object, he will be recorded in God's presence as eminently truthful." (Sunan Abu Dawood vol. 3, no. 4971)
"Beware I inform you regarding the greatest of the mortal sins: Associating anything with Allah, disobeying parents and lying!" (Wasaelush Shia)
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