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Please before I start I like to ask to refrain from negativity, as it is sensitive topic. I will not engage with any of negative comments or attempt to "psychology analyse". I am not inviting that.
I wonder what the best option would be seen from a godly perspective.

While studying we usually have side jobs. As such with me. One day first day found out the "team leader" (runs the whole house with 2nd assistant leader) (care home) was a big time abuser. I did read reviews before, but they cleaned it so was just one negative. But it was disturbing enough telling you about long term bullying, shouting and screaming to colleges, for full storm. Owner allows it. Five managers left in five months. High turnover. Much suffering. And I`m there. First day, team leader and 2nd leader acted like we were old friends. Very boundary crossing that. When team leader manager heard I was doing psychology she asked me if I could see something with her. I said that `s not how it works trying to avoid. I told her some general stuff, while she tempted me into sin and my past in new age and the occult. Which I then had to repent for. (I was like ,wow, is this an attempt from the enemy must be then what if it is more here like entities) I say that because it was that sudden out of the blue, and very pushy.
I said things about what I picked up on her, and I was right. (like I said I had to repent but such things are a fine line as you get given from God and I do have discernment of spirits and prophetic gifts so.. hard) She was taken aback. She start to tell me how she blows up full storm they get it all(as I understood it criticism, nasty things, weakness and errors real or made up especially petty things or imaginary)her colleges, she said everyone gets it, she does not care.
I tried to help her. I talked to her about it, and I made suggestions which she had not heard before I even told her how to pace herself and proceed. To manage. She told me it came from her past and how she grew up and was taught. I expressed sympathy and tried to help. She did not want to change. She said she could not and did not want to control
her emotions, and that she was VERY moody. I felt for her. I really did .
The other leader shut down a bit towards me when I was seeing through the other. She either did not stand up or said anything how it was wrong treating others like that. Which I noted.
A little backstory. I grew up with npd narcissist mother and brothers and a lot of bullying for years, something I have had to go to therapy for and I had good help at the time. Still you can feel things more even though, like a healed wound but if someone deliberately tramp on it. You get the idea.
As such, I could be retraumatised in an environment like this, and these things generally create a lot of stress physically and mentally. You will always be more vulnerable to stress because of it. When you have health conditions, you risk over time health problems, such as high blood pressure. And I have diabetes type 2.
Plus I am generally very sensitive to stress. Most likely, because of the past.
I take good care of myself and am aware.
Also as an ambi vert I process stress differently. Need more time, and recharge runs out faster. I also suffer cronic fatigue syndrome(if you don`t know look up cfs/me) so stress gets me there too. More health issues.
(it is a neurological disease)
So stay there could most likely risk my health. Plus retraumatise me. As I still get very emotional and sad when it is.
Also due to my nature. I`m a sensitive gentle soul.
Yes one can potentially be retraumatised, open up old wounds, even if you are so to speak healed.
You would then freeze, fawn, fight or flight, typical responses in danger. You would succumb or fight. Old ways of responding might surface. Old trauma. And the abuser would use and abuse it. You might have to deal with everything again. The risk is higher the longer you stay in such an environment. Even the strongest as they say.

She already acted harshly on the phone with me previously without need to.
I noted the lack of professionalism.
Financially it is a drain. Trains are not cheap in Uk.
Bus takes like 1,5 hrs.
The way they placed the rota and everything.

So she abuses and misuse everything and does not intend to stop and the owner is accepting it and people leaving and all that. It doesn`t take much to get the issues.
I sit here wondering what to do and how to deal. I have been offered a new job somewhere else, where I would actually only take care of ONE client, nights(the other nights even though they placed me days too)
I could even get shifts where you sleep, available of course, but still.
In ONE location.
Care home like 20 -40 people.
Yes very little stress.
Not started yet though, now it is time for references and paperwork(all good there)
I wanted to do 2 jobs combine. Financial.
Pay the same.
I really liked the care home a lot, and the rest of the people.
But maybe I am being decieved by the enemy. She`s not gonna change. I did ask God to give me another job if this was not good for me I told him everything.

Should I stay or should I go. the other job will start once references and paperwork finish. And I won`t get paid from the first anyway until end of october and by then I would most likely start the other.
 

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Sorry for all you have to deal with. The job does not sound good for you. I would just trust God and let him pick up the pieces. I once worked at a drug and alcohol in patient center some years ago. A teenage patient asked me for prayer and possibly deliverance. The parents found out and were mad so I was called on the carpet for that. I think they were going to fire me but I said that I would not pray or do anything religious again. (This was a secular place). So while I got to keep my job, my compromise to not pray etc. really made the whole place demonic to me. So much that I quit in three weeks and got some deliverance myself. There really was something that occurred from that. As a Christian to any reader, I would never let the rights of a organization supersede your Christian duty. Yes, you can work in secular jobs but never say you won't share or pray if asked. Better to not push the envelop than to have to pledge something that is not a Christian duty.

I don't know if that can relate to you. You faced a demonic force in a different way. In my case, I could hardly make it through a shift after my compromise, hence I threw in the towel pretty quick. I will say too that later after praying for a "decent" job. I landed a temporary job at a Fortune 500 company that led to a permanent position. That company was far more than "decent," and God was very much involved as I am sure he is with you.
 
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Sorry for all you have to deal with. The job does not sound good for you. I would just trust God and let him pick up the pieces. I once worked at a drug and alcohol in patient center some years ago. A teenage patient asked me for prayer and possibly deliverance. The parents found out and were mad so I was called on the carpet for that. I think they were going to fire me but I said that I would not pray or do anything religious again. (This was a secular place). So while I got to keep my job, my compromise to not pray etc. really made the whole place demonic to me. So much that I quit in three weeks and got some deliverance myself. There really was something that occurred from that. As a Christian to any reader, I would never let the rights of a organization supersede your Christian duty. Yes, you can work in secular jobs but never say you won't share or pray if asked. Better to not push the envelop than to have to pledge something that is not a Christian duty.

I don't know if that can relate to you. You faced a demonic force in a different way. In my case, I could hardly make it through a shift after my compromise, hence I threw in the towel pretty quick. I will say too that later after praying for a "decent" job. I landed a temporary job at a Fortune 500 company that led to a permanent position. That company was far more than "decent," and God was very much involved as I am sure he is with you.
Thank you, I`m sorry what happened to you. Thank you for acknowledging the demonic influence. I would not said you should have stayed either. It is kinda double speak, your client was responsible for the prayers asking not you. Yet hang you on it.
Well I have been offered the other job. It is just the paperwork.
 
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Sorry for all you have to deal with. The job does not sound good for you. I would just trust God and let him pick up the pieces. I once worked at a drug and alcohol in patient center some years ago. A teenage patient asked me for prayer and possibly deliverance. The parents found out and were mad so I was called on the carpet for that. I think they were going to fire me but I said that I would not pray or do anything religious again. (This was a secular place). So while I got to keep my job, my compromise to not pray etc. really made the whole place demonic to me. So much that I quit in three weeks and got some deliverance myself. There really was something that occurred from that. As a Christian to any reader, I would never let the rights of a organization supersede your Christian duty. Yes, you can work in secular jobs but never say you won't share or pray if asked. Better to not push the envelop than to have to pledge something that is not a Christian duty.

I don't know if that can relate to you. You faced a demonic force in a different way. In my case, I could hardly make it through a shift after my compromise, hence I threw in the towel pretty quick. I will say too that later after praying for a "decent" job. I landed a temporary job at a Fortune 500 company that led to a permanent position. That company was far more than "decent," and God was very much involved as I am sure he is with you.
I`m happy you got another job. I`m the same, don`t want to compromise yet enemy present one compromise after another and one lie after another and I am not a person that lies ever, normally but he presents it like do this say this about that job. I took him in it. She caught me out of the blue. I think she sensed "something".(God) why else would she ask me like that. She didn`t even know me. It is of course hard to say, but since her behaviour have been going on since her early days and she does not want to change.. especially, the lack of empathy I heard from her that she abuse people.. makes me suspect something narcissistic going on. ( a spectra from traits to full blown disorder)Because they have issues with empathy. Either that, or just very toxic. At least I have the other. I am just sad to leave as I really liked the job
 
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Also it is very weird she told me she abuse people. Either she wanted to test me, see how I react, if she could get me under her fold and or either abuse or on her side, or.. she did not even care yet not knowing me. It was when I said I studied psych then she started she blurt out. And focused on what I could see on her. eh?
 
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Sorry for all you have to deal with. The job does not sound good for you. I would just trust God and let him pick up the pieces. I once worked at a drug and alcohol in patient center some years ago. A teenage patient asked me for prayer and possibly deliverance. The parents found out and were mad so I was called on the carpet for that. I think they were going to fire me but I said that I would not pray or do anything religious again. (This was a secular place). So while I got to keep my job, my compromise to not pray etc. really made the whole place demonic to me. So much that I quit in three weeks and got some deliverance myself. There really was something that occurred from that. As a Christian to any reader, I would never let the rights of a organization supersede your Christian duty. Yes, you can work in secular jobs but never say you won't share or pray if asked. Better to not push the envelop than to have to pledge something that is not a Christian duty.

I don't know if that can relate to you. You faced a demonic force in a different way. In my case, I could hardly make it through a shift after my compromise, hence I threw in the towel pretty quick. I will say too that later after praying for a "decent" job. I landed a temporary job at a Fortune 500 company that led to a permanent position. That company was far more than "decent," and God was very much involved as I am sure he is with you.
Another thing she said, the topic went to relationships and her partner and other people and she expressed if she had the opportunity.. she just do it and told me to do same and that if you had the drive you had the drive that it was no difference between being with them or someone. That made me jump inside of course. I thought wow,, so you think this is okay treatment! I recall that now another horrible thing
 
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Sorry for all you have to deal with. The job does not sound good for you. I would just trust God and let him pick up the pieces. I once worked at a drug and alcohol in patient center some years ago. A teenage patient asked me for prayer and possibly deliverance. The parents found out and were mad so I was called on the carpet for that. I think they were going to fire me but I said that I would not pray or do anything religious again. (This was a secular place). So while I got to keep my job, my compromise to not pray etc. really made the whole place demonic to me. So much that I quit in three weeks and got some deliverance myself. There really was something that occurred from that. As a Christian to any reader, I would never let the rights of a organization supersede your Christian duty. Yes, you can work in secular jobs but never say you won't share or pray if asked. Better to not push the envelop than to have to pledge something that is not a Christian duty.

I don't know if that can relate to you. You faced a demonic force in a different way. In my case, I could hardly make it through a shift after my compromise, hence I threw in the towel pretty quick. I will say too that later after praying for a "decent" job. I landed a temporary job at a Fortune 500 company that led to a permanent position. That company was far more than "decent," and God was very much involved as I am sure he is with you.
To see there is something more going on here, something spiritual something just happened, when I was in the new age, I had contacted a lady that offered to help regarding twinflames and my personal difficult experiences. I heard nothing ever. Who have just contacted me and a lengthy one. No joke. Like pearls on a string. So obvious. I was like, wow!
 
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To see there is something more going on here, something spiritual something just happened, when I was in the new age, I had contacted a lady that offered to help regarding twinflames and my personal difficult experiences. I heard nothing ever. Who have just contacted me and a lengthy one. No joke. Like pearls on a string. So obvious. I was like, wow!
It is good that you can discern. Typically, such attacks do not last that long. Continue in spiritual warfare and seek help if needed. I think your outcome is going to have some serious upside for your relationship with God and what you can do in the future. May God raise up a standard against all spiritual enemies and let you abide in his refuge with perfect peace. May all who read and post send many prayers. God bless!
 
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Also it is very weird she told me she abuse people. Either she wanted to test me, see how I react, if she could get me under her fold and or either abuse or on her side, or.. she did not even care yet not knowing me. It was when I said I studied psych then she started she blurt out. And focused on what I could see on her. eh?
It seems so weird that it has to be somewhat demonic. It looks like your resigning but I am left wondering what your obligation might be in reporting it?
 
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Thank you, I`m sorry what happened to you. Thank you for acknowledging the demonic influence. I would not said you should have stayed either. It is kinda double speak, your client was responsible for the prayers asking not you. Yet hang you on it.
Well I have been offered the other job. It is just the paperwork.
It was a long time ago. I think sometimes these kind of tings turn into a lesson. After my ordeal I made one other mistake. In talking with my pastor, he asked a profound question to me. It was so simple yet showed where my faith was. He asked: what is it you want? I replied that I wanted a more normal life. He prayed that and I got it but I would never counsel anyone to that end. The Christian life is never normal for those that desire to really make a difference in God. It won't satisfy either. Sure some times it will be like that, but those are the times of preparation and readying for battle. As you are going into psych, I do not worry that your life is "normal." like mine was. You likely will encounter all sorts of issues in this field where God can draw out your talents and abilities.
 
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It was a long time ago. I think sometimes these kind of tings turn into a lesson. After my ordeal I made one other mistake. In talking with my pastor, he asked a profound question to me. It was so simple yet showed where my faith was. He asked: what is it you want? I replied that I wanted a more normal life. He prayed that and I got it but I would never counsel anyone to that end. The Christian life is never normal for those that desire to really make a difference in God. It won't satisfy either. Sure some times it will be like that, but those are the times of preparation and readying for battle. As you are going into psych, I do not worry that your life is "normal." like mine was. You likely will encounter all sorts of issues in this field where God can draw out your talents and abilities.
well i have already heard about therapists that prayed with their clients at the end and how demons manifested and after that she got them all the time, and had to do deliverance on the spot. Nothing that went before it they just manifested. I have seen a lot, already. My life or way of being have not been standardised either so I`m kind of used to it.
 
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It was a long time ago. I think sometimes these kind of tings turn into a lesson. After my ordeal I made one other mistake. In talking with my pastor, he asked a profound question to me. It was so simple yet showed where my faith was. He asked: what is it you want? I replied that I wanted a more normal life. He prayed that and I got it but I would never counsel anyone to that end.

He was correct to ask as was the prayer but your interpretation is errant. God uses people from all walks of life and normalcy is the norm. The recent fixation with doing big things for God is that. The majority live out their faith quietly and influence their family, friends, neighbors, coworkers, community etc.

You’re also forgetting there’s range with the concept. Normal for one looks different for another. Go back to that time and consider its connection to where you are today. Would you be in the position to meet your companion? And who’s to say a special work won’t emerge from the pairing? Don’t forget the role season plays in the whole. If you read biographies you’ll see that up close.

And there’s facets to our assignment. Our primary focus isn’t the only one and we can pick up other mantles or have areas the Lord permits for additional work. You may be in a better position than you were during that period. Once upon a time I wanted to be a surgeon. But the Lord said writer, speaker, entrepreneur, fashion designer, interior designer, homesteader and so on.

Understand? ;-)

~bella
 
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well i have already heard about therapists that prayed with their clients at the end and how demons manifested and after that she got them all the time, and had to do deliverance on the spot. Nothing that went before it they just manifested. I have seen a lot, already. My life or way of being have not been standardised either so I`m kind of used to it.
I have a different approach. Did you know there are a lot of Bible Colleges that teach the fundamental clarify of Scripture with online classes. Take one class at first, make sure it is Grounded in Systematic theology. I don't think you are ready to be on your own. The only way to become more Christ-like is through a diligent, serious study of the major doctrines of Scripture.

Do your research before committing to a college. I wouldn't base your theology on what you read in a forum. There are many godly professors at these universities. From this point forward ignore anyone who claim to have seen demons manifested (ignore your own ideas for now. Demon manifestation was a rare occurrence in the OT and NT. Don't get mixed up with the discussion of demons until you have had a couple of years in a Theology Program.

Try Liberty University, or Piedmont University, I am going to take more classes from one of these, perhaps also Regent University. I will drill the person helping me come to their University by asking many theological questions from the counselors. Since I have a Master's already, I will probably take online courses from Dallas Theological Seminary. Their costs are good. Most of these schools have donated money for scholarships. I am not rich, but I would be willing to pitch in to help you get started.

I envy you if you can get into a Christian College/Seminary and learn of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Oh, to be more like Him!
 
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I have a different approach. Did you know there are a lot of Bible Colleges that teach the fundamental clarify of Scripture with online classes. Take one class at first, make sure it is Grounded in Systematic theology. I don't think you are ready to be on your own. The only way to become more Christ-like is through a diligent, serious study of the major doctrines of Scripture.

Do your research before committing to a college. I wouldn't base your theology on what you read in a forum. There are many godly professors at these universities. From this point forward ignore anyone who claim to have seen demons manifested (ignore your own ideas for now. Demon manifestation was a rare occurrence in the OT and NT. Don't get mixed up with the discussion of demons until you have had a couple of years in a Theology Program.

Try Liberty University, or Piedmont University, I am going to take more classes from one of these, perhaps also Regent University. I will drill the person helping me come to their University by asking many theological questions from the counselors. Since I have a Master's already, I will probably take online courses from Dallas Theological Seminary. Their costs are good. Most of these schools have donated money for scholarships. I am not rich, but I would be willing to pitch in to help you get started.

I envy you if you can get into a Christian College/Seminary and learn of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Oh, to be more like Him!
I follow scripture only. If the bible say we are to cast out and heal so it is. If the bible talk about the existence of demons so it is. Other, I am a bible only conservative.
 
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I follow scripture only. If the bible say we are to cast out and heal so it is. If the bible talk about the existence of demons so it is. Other, I am a bible only conservative.
What if the Bible says to bring a lamb to sacrifice it for your sins, are you doing that? Since the Bible is clear that God commanded us to bring a sacrifice to worship, you really should be bringing one to your worship services.

What you are doing is trying to bypass the gifted Pastor-teachers who were given to the church to teach us the Word of God. If you insist you follow the scriptures only, may I ask how do you get your biblical teaching? Do you know why you don't bring a lamb to sacrifice but you do cast out demons?
 
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What if the Bible says to bring a lamb to sacrifice it for your sins, are you doing that? Since the Bible is clear that God commanded us to bring a sacrifice to worship, you really should be bringing one to your worship services.

What you are doing is trying to bypass the gifted Pastor-teachers who were given to the church to teach us the Word of God. If you insist you follow the scriptures only, may I ask how do you get your biblical teaching? Do you know why you don't bring a lamb to sacrifice but you do cast out demons?
I think this turning out to something else that this post was not about. I want to stay on course
 
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He was correct to ask as was the prayer but your interpretation is errant. God uses people from all walks of life and normalcy is the norm. The recent fixation with doing big things for God is that. The majority live out their faith quietly and influence their family, friends, neighbors, coworkers, community etc.

You’re also forgetting there’s range with the concept. Normal for one looks different for another. Go back to that time and consider its connection to where you are today. Would you be in the position to meet your companion? And who’s to say a special work won’t emerge from the pairing? Don’t forget the role season plays in the whole. If you read biographies you’ll see that up close.

And there’s facets to our assignment. Our primary focus isn’t the only one and we can pick up other mantles or have areas the Lord permits for additional work. You may be in a better position than you were during that period. Once upon a time I wanted to be a surgeon. But the Lord said writer, speaker, entrepreneur, fashion designer, interior designer, homesteader and so on.

Understand? ;-)

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Yes, the pastor was right on. The question he gave was a good one. In my distress I just wanted to be rid of the spiritual conflict. Your other points are valid too. Except maybe that I had lots of other chances in all kinds of things, including ministry. Probably my definition of normal involved some worldliness. So yes, the definition one uses becomes so important. Anyhow, I skated by quite a number of yaers with not much to show for it. Could it have shaped me now? Of course, but if anything, I am far behind what I could have been. Of course, one has to put the past aside and not get caught up in much second guessing. Thanks for shedding some light on this.
 
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