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Unmasking America and "Israel" In Prophecy: The Rams Two Horns

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:smallredtriangledown:Introduction: Why the Ram Points to America and “Israel”

Daniel’s vision of the ram in chapter 8 is traditionally applied to the Medo-Persian Empire. Yet the angel insists it also concerns “the time of the end” (Daniel 8:17, 19, 26). Like other dual–fulfilment prophecies, it speaks both to historical empires and to the last days.

I believe the two horns of this ram point to America and “Israel.” They represent not isolated nations, but the culmination of a spiritual pattern that began at the Tower of Babel—humanity’s first organised act of rebellion against God. From Babel onward, every empire has carried this same spirit of conquest, self-exaltation, and lawlessness, and it finds its sharpest expression in these two nations.

To read it faithfully requires a lens of justice and truth, with Christ as the standard by which every system is measured. Through that lens, America and “Israel” emerge as the horns of the ram - pillars of end-times Babylon, carrying forward the rebellion that began at Babel. Cloaked in biblical language and geopolitical power, they wield influence that masquerades as righteousness while advancing lawlessness, foreshadowing the moral and spiritual corruption examined in the chapters ahead.

:smallredtriangledown:The Ram as a Spirit of Global Conquest and Apostasy

The ram signifies a spirit of conquest - a demonic principality that has driven empires throughout history. Historically, it was embodied in the Medes and the Persian Empire. Its nature persists into the last days through powers claiming divine legitimacy. This spirit appears religious but is lawless at its core - deceptive, violent, and proud. It mimics divine authority while disregarding truth and justice. The United States and “Israel” exemplify this pattern. One is a global superpower; the other, a smaller state, yet wields influence far beyond its size - shaping American policy to serve its own interests. Together, they perpetuate empire under a sacred guise. Their union is not covenantal but imperial, relying on military dominance, financial leverage, media manipulation, and propaganda masquerading as divine mandate.

:smallredtriangledown:The Two Horns: America and “Israel” - An Unholy Alliance

The first horn, America, rose higher and earlier - establishing unmatched military, economic, and cultural dominance. The second horn, “Israel,” appeared later, smaller, but grew strong through the power of the first. Today, the younger horn exerts disproportionate influence over the elder, steering its policies through lobbying, finance, and media power. Criticism of this union is branded heresy, even as injustice is sanctified under the guise of security and prophecy.

What makes this alliance unique is its fusion of power, ideology, and religious authority. No other partnership has so effectively projected divine legitimacy while shaping global culture, politics, and faith to serve its own interests. Much of the heretical teaching and spiritual deception of our age traces back to these two nations. Like a ram mimicking a lamb, they cloak lawlessness in righteousness, fulfilling the “mystery of lawlessness” Paul spoke of (2 Thessalonians 2). The horns embody a modern manifestation of the same imperial spirit that once animated ancient empires.

Both nations veil themselves in biblical language while building systems of conquest and dispossession. America proclaims itself “a nation under God” even as its legacy is marked by slavery, indigenous genocide, and endless wars. “Israel,” invoking covenant heritage, enforces apartheid and expansion through walls, blockades, and airstrikes. Both cite Scripture, yet act contrary to the God of justice and mercy (Micah 6:8). Their partnership is an unholy alliance - appearing as shepherds while devouring the flock. Americans gain little to nothing from this bond; it is a one-sided relationship in which the elder becomes a tool for the younger, fulfilling Daniel 8:3: “the latter horn shall be higher than the older.”

:smallredtriangledown:The Ram and the Legacy of Empire

The ram’s body is the imperial system - a structure older than Medo-Persia, rooted in Babel and perfected by Rome. Rome cloaked tyranny in law and piety; America inherited this mantle, redrawing borders, toppling governments, and exporting a false gospel wrapped in democracy. “Israel,” invoking sacred heritage, employs similar methods: militarisation, occupation, and erasure of indigenous identity - all legitimised by distorted theology of chosenness. Scripture warns against those who “call evil good and good evil” (Isaiah 5:20). This system baptises violence as “security,” sanctions theft as “inheritance,” and blesses empire as “God’s plan.” Prophecy is weaponised, twisting God’s promises into tools of domination.

:smallredtriangledown:The Seven Abominations: The Ram’s Moral Signature

Proverbs 6:16-19 lists what the LORD hates: pride, deceit, bloodshed, wicked plotting, swift violence, false witness, and sowing discord. These traits are stamped upon the ram’s system:
  • Haughty eyes claim divine favour while trampling the meek.
  • Lying tongues frame genocide as defence, apartheid as security.
  • Hands that shed innocent blood stain deserts and cities with drone strikes and blockades.
  • Hearts devising wicked plans orchestrate coups under the mask of liberation.
  • Feet swift to evil march in pre-emptive wars and economic strangulation.
  • False witness twists prophecy into an excuse for empire.
  • Sowing discord fractures nations, their own people, churches, and families for profit and control.
These are not abstract vices - they are embodied in policies, treaties, and wars executed under God’s name, presenting a counterfeit holiness that denies the Lord it claims to serve.

:smallredtriangledown:But the Ram Will Not Prevail

"As I was thinking about this, suddenly a goat with a prominent horn between its eyes came from the west, crossing the whole earth without touching the ground. It came toward the two-horned ram I had seen charged at it in great rage. I saw it attack the ram furiously, striking the ram and shattering its two horns. The ram was powerless to stand against it; the goat knocked it to the ground and trampled on it, and none could rescue the ram from its power." (Daniel 8:5-7)

The Rise of the Goat.

(To be continued)
 

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Daniel’s vision of the ram in chapter 8 is traditionally applied to the Medo-Persian Empire. Yet the angel insists it also concerns “the time of the end” (Daniel 8:17, 19, 26). Like other dual–fulfilment prophecies, it speaks both to historical empires and to the last days.
That is because the Anti-Christ is born in Greece, as I show above. So, the Grecian lineage stretches to the Church Age, then the 7 headed Beast's 6th head receives a mortal wound, the beast goes away for the duration of the church age. Once the 70th week agreement happens (Israel joining the E.U.) everything kicks off, the 70th week starts and the pre trib. rapture happens. The 70th week is about Israel, the Bride of the Father being brought back into the Olive Tree Family. The Church is the Bride of Christ, we go to be with the Lord for 7 years. In other words, why does it matter? The 70th week is a continuation of the other Beasts before the Church Age came upon the world.

No uSe going over the rest because once you start off on a wrong road you will never be on the right road.
 
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America isn't mentioned in Scripture, including biblical prophecy. America isn't biblically significant.

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Of course it is, if you understand which symbology to look for.

So, the E.U. will attack Israel whilst the biggest most powerful BUSY BODY in the world does nothing, so what gives? People used to say a "Financial Collapse" but reading al the passages, the 1/3 that burns is not a 1/3 of the trees per se but is instead a destination point for the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact.

Once it hits in the Pacific Ocean there will be major tidal waves and flooding, and America will be burning. Thus we are the 1/3, but that only happens AFTER the Pre Trib. Rapture.

P.S. The New World in full is the 1/3, this event will happen in the New World not in the Old World. Also the Pacific Ocean covers 1/3 of the worlds surface.
 
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Of course it is, if you understand which symbology to look for.

So, the E.U. will attack Israel whilst the biggest most powerful BUSY BODY in the world does nothing, so what gives? People used to say a "Financial Collapse" but reading al the passages, the 1/3 that burns is not a 1/3 of the trees per se but is instead a destination point for the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact.

Once it hits in the Pacific Ocean there will be major tidal waves and flooding, and America will be burning. Thus we are the 1/3, but that only happens AFTER the Pre Trib. Rapture.

Why would I believe the EU will attack Israel? That's not in the Bible either.

Likewise, the "pre trib rapture" isn't in the Bible either.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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So, the E.U. will attack Israel whilst the biggest most powerful BUSY BODY in the world does nothing, so what gives? People used to say a "Financial Collapse" but reading al the passages, the 1/3 that burns is not a 1/3 of the trees per se but is instead a destination point for the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact.

The only one making threats at the moment is Bibi. Which he directed towards the nations supporting a Palestinian state and a suggestion for retrieving Hamas officials hiding in Beijing with China’s assistance. The latter was so ridiculous its become a meme and the subject of humor pieces.

~bella
 
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Why would I believe the EU will attack Israel? That's not in the Bible either.

Likewise, the "pre trib rapture" isn't in the Bible either.

-CryptoLutheran
We have to be able to either

1.) Interpret scriptures properly

2.) Be in tune with the holy spirit which as our helper is able to show us all things

You not knowing that the E.U. has to be the Fourth Beast is a fault I can not fix per se, but it most certainly is in the bible. We are told in Daniel 7 & 8 about a Little Horn power, meaning a man, not a kingdom, that is because this is the only Beast who never passes his kingdom on to another man so he alone is the Beast.

In Dan. 7:7-8 we are clearly told this AC/Little Horn/Beast will arise amongst the 10 that arises from the Fourth Beasts Head. In the bible 10 = COMPLETION, almost always, but especially in Prophesy, which I have been called unto for over 40 years as a preacher, so I am not just guessing sister, I put in the grunt work and prayer, at 23 while everyone else was partying on Friday and Sat. I was praying, in my room alone.

The number 10 in Rev. 2:10 talks about Smyrna having "Tribulation for 10 days" that means for the complete Church Age. The 10 Commandments is a stand in for God's Complete Laws. There were 10 Plagues. The number 7 stands for Divine Completion, when combined they are always prophetic, and we can use number to understand things like the 7000 men God saved unto Himself and the 144,000, God was never going to tell Satan 2000 years ago the true number so he could pre plan, God speaks in CODES, in Zech. 13:8-9 we are told that 1/3 of Israel will repent in the end times, we see that happen in Rev. 12, and we know there are 15 million Jews in the world. We also know that God speaks in lingo like this with the Church, there are not just 10 Virgin Brides are there? That stands for Complete Christendom, not 10 virgin women, half those brides miss the Pre Trib. Rapture. Likewise, the 144,000 Jews are Men, Women and Children, and they are not just 144,000, they are 12 which equals Fulness x 10 which equals Completion, as in 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = 144,000 or ALL Israel who repents. Likewise the 7000 God stated He saved unto himself is 7 x 10 x 10 x 10 or Divine Completion x Completion. Not knowing these things means you can not interpret prophesy correctly sister. So, lets move on to the Rome becomes the E.U. in the end times.

In Dan. 2 the Iron legs become IRON & CLAY, not just clay, signifying this is old Rome Reunited. I will show a map below to prove this. We must take out the Church Ages 2000 some odd year life on earth, and all of the sudden the Nebuchadnezzar Statue is continuous as is the 4 (really 5) Beasts of Daniel 7. So, Dan. 7 speaks of these 10 horns arising out of Rome's Head. Remember 10 means Completion, not 10, so when the Council of Rome formed in 1957 as 8 members, and later when it grew to 12-15 and latly when it had 27 member states etc. etc. God was always correct, because He is speaking about a Gov. with many member states which come and go but are Rome Reunited in Completion, but that completion in full only comes in full when the King of the North in Dan. 11:40-43 Conquers MANY Countries to get at Israel, then Israel, then all of North Africa. In Dan. 8:9 we are told SPECIFICALLY which direction he conquers towards an hence from. Toward the East, the South and Israel, thus he can only conquer "FROM the Northwest Corridor or Greece" in this four general Syrian War battle, which will be the 7th Syrian War (Divine Completion) as there were 6 Syrian Wars in history. So, this man, the AC will become the Beast when he conquers Israel an THE MANY. Of course it can only be the E.U. because the man can only be born in Greece, he will have Old Assyrian blood, and Turkey and Greece have a common border. And Greece is in the E.U. the feet are IRON & CLAY..........Or Rome and later MANY COUNTRIES trying to be one nation but are really many nations.

Did you know the E.U. currently has 7 Year Agreements with Israel and every nation in the region? Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, (Israel), Morocco, Algeria, Libya, and Tunisia. Its called the European Neighborhood Policy (ENP). The E.U. passes out 15 Billion Euros to these nations, a kind of carrot and stick approach. This can all we verified on Wikipedia. Now the MAPS which proves God gave us the same Beast (basically) 2000 years later, but run by ONE MAN this time, who never passes hi kingdom on hence he alone is The Beast.

E.N.P.
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Rome 2000 years ago circa 117 AD

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Understand it now? Or is it still nor Rome Revived, even though all scriptures point unto this fact. The E.U. led by a President born in Greece with an Old Assyrian (Turk/Iraqi) bloodline, conquers Israel and THE MANY [Countries] as shown in Dan. 11:40-43 BUT....he does not conquer Moab, Ammon, nor Edom, because that is where God Almighty protects Israel from the Red Dragon (Rev. 12) for 1260 days.
 
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The only one making threats at the moment is Bibi. Which he directed towards the nations supporting a Palestinian state and a suggestion for retrieving Hamas officials hiding in Beijing with China’s assistance. The latter was so ridiculous its become a meme and the subject of humor pieces.
There is no such thing as Palestine, they are all vagabond Arabs kicked out of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan long ago, let them take back their terrorist thugs. Anyone against Israel, as a Christian, IMHO, is very ill informed on what is going on.
 
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There is no such thing as Palestine, they are all vagabond Arabs kicked out of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan long ago, let them take back their terrorist thugs. Anyone against Israel, as a Christian, IMHO, is very ill informed on what is going on.

You’re welcome to your opinion. I don’t agree nor do I require a christian to educate me. As a former jew I’m more informed than most. And at any rate you work for them and you’ll never be equal. But dream on.

~bella
 
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