Amazing interview with Israel and Maria Folau.

[Carl Emerson]

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So you can not understand that he is proclaiming a false message with his.

Warning
Drunkards
Homosexuals
Adulterers
Liars
Thieves
Atheist
Idolaters
Hell
Awaits You
Repent
Only Jesus saves
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So show me where he states to believe in Jesus for God's free gift of Eternal Life. Because his message above states to repent and repenting of sin gives no one God's free gift of Eternal Life.

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Only belief in Jesus is how a person becomes a born again child of God.

So you can say i am dodging all the questions, etc.. that is fine because i simply cut through all the nonsense and get straight to the point. That either a person has believed in Jesus for Eternal Life or they have not and that is all that counts toward a person and where they will spend eternity with God or in the lake of fire apart from The Life of God.

The message of Life is so simple, that either this person is telling people how to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life or he is not.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Are you suggesting repentance is not necessary ?

Acts 2:38
Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 3:19
Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;

Acts 8:22
Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray the Lord that, if possible, the intention of your heart may be forgiven you.

Acts 11:18
When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, “Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leadsto life.”

Acts 17:30
Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent,

Acts 20:21
solemnly testifying to both Jews and Greeks of repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 26:20
but kept declaring both to those of Damascus first, and also at Jerusalem and then throughout all the region of Judea, and even to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds appropriate to repentance.

 

[d taylor]

Are you suggesting repentance is not necessary ?

Acts 2:38
Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 3:19
Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;

Acts 8:22
Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray the Lord that, if possible, the intention of your heart may be forgiven you.

Acts 11:18
When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, “Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leadsto life.”

Acts 17:30
Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent,

Acts 20:21
solemnly testifying to both Jews and Greeks of repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 26:20
but kept declaring both to those of Damascus first, and also at Jerusalem and then throughout all the region of Judea, and even to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds appropriate to repentance.

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Not a single one of the verses you posted states to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life the person must repent!

 

[Carl Emerson]

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Not a single one of the verses you posted states to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life the person must repent!

Acts 11:18
When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, “Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life.”

 

[d taylor]

Acts 11:18
When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, “Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life.”

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That is not Eternal Life, that is life that is found with the Holy Spirit bringing about fellowship with God.
Verse 1 already states these people are believers
Now the apostles and brethren who were in Judea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God.

Receiving the word of God is the same as saying believing in Jesus.
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

 

[Carl Emerson]

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That is not Eternal Life, that is life that is found with the Holy Spirit bringing about fellowship with God.
Verse 1 already states these people are believers
Now the apostles and brethren who were in Judea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God.

Receiving the word of God is the same as saying believing in Jesus.
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Sorry I don't agree with your interpretation of Acts 11.

 

[d taylor]

Sorry I don't agree with your interpretation of Acts 11.

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Well i have the many verses in The Gospel of John supporting my interpretation
These verses plainly state belief in Jesus gives a person God's free gift of Eternal Life and not repentance.

John 3:14,15 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

John 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

John 3:18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is
condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only
begotten Son of God.

John 3:36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

John 5:24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

John 6: 27,28,29 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”
Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”

John 6:47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believe in Me has everlasting life.

John 11:25,26,27
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

John 20:31
but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Demons believe...

Acts 2:38
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Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

 

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[d taylor]

Demons believe...

Acts 2:38​

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Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

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I believe i was addressing receiving God's free gift of Eternal Life and not the Holy Spirit.

 

[Carl Emerson]

The Holy Spirit seals our salvation eternally...

Jer 32

40 I will make an everlasting covenant with them that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; and I will put the fear of Me in their hearts so that they will not turn away from Me.

 

[d taylor]

The Holy Spirit seals our salvation eternally...

Jer 32

40 I will make an everlasting covenant with them that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; and I will put the fear of Me in their hearts so that they will not turn away from Me.

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Not sure what Jeremiah 32 has to do with your belief. No mention of The Holy Spirit sealing believers salvation in Jeremiah 32.


The Holy Spirit is a helper that Jesus' promised God would send to believers.
If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

 

[d taylor]

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God gave them the same gift (The Holy Spirit) God gave the Jewish believers. Not when anyone repented but as the verse states when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ.

If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God?”


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An Example That Connects with Us (Acts 11:18)
by Ken Yates

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A group of people are confronted with some religious teaching they had never heard before. In fact, it went against everything they had been taught by the people they respected. It sure sounded strange. They, too, are to be commended for how they responded. They laid aside what they previously thought was true for the truth of God.

After Peter preached to them, a group of Gentiles believed in Jesus for eternal life. But they also were baptized by the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:44). Jewish believers up to that point knew that Gentiles could and would receive eternal life and be a part of the kingdom of God. But they didn’t know they would also be baptized by the Holy Spirit into the church. That privilege was seen to be an exclusively Jewish one. They still thought there should be a separation between Jews and Gentiles.

When Peter came to a group of such Jewish believers, they rebuked him for staying and eating with these Gentile believers. Peter had broken the strongly held rules about separation. Peter explained to them how God had told him in a vision to go to those Gentiles and that He would make them clean. To top it all off, those Gentiles were baptized with the Holy Spirit. There were even other Jewish witnesses to this as those Gentiles spoke in other languages, just as the Jews themselves had.

These events changed everything. If the Gentiles were baptized with the Holy Spirit, they were equal to Jewish believers. There could be no separation from them. Jewish believers were to eat with them and stay in their homes. The Gentile believers were just as “clean” as any Jewish believer.

But how could that be? They had never heard such things. Their grandparents and parents had taught them it was impossible. Their religious teachers did as well. Peter had told them so (Acts 10:28). The idea was preposterous and could not be true. The obstacles that prevented them from believing what Peter was telling them now were formidable.

How did they respond? We must remember that they did not have the NT. But they did have the word of God coming to them in the words of the Apostle Peter. In those days, God communicated with the apostles through visions. He had spoken. We could paraphrase Peter in this way: I didn’t believe it at first either, but God revealed this truth to me. The fact that these Gentiles spoke in other languages in the presence of Jewish witnesses confirmed the truth of what God had said. Those witnesses didn’t want to believe it either (Acts 10:45-46). But when confronted with the truth, they believed what God had said.

Now, the Jews to whom they told the story faced the same challenge. To their credit, they did the same as Peter and the other witnesses. The word of God challenged their long-held, sincere beliefs. They now believed that Gentile believers were equal members of the Body of Christ (Acts 11:18).

Those Jewish believers are to be commended. They pleased the Lord.

Their example connects with us. We can feel their tension. We’ve felt it too.

God is pleased if we overcome the false ideas we brought into the Christian life. He will commend us one day for all the times we were responsive to His Word.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Jeremiah and Isaiah agreed on this, concerning the New Covenant to come and that He would indwell believers with His Spirit including the Spirit of the Fear of the Lord.

Jer 32
40 I will make an everlasting covenant with them that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; and I will put the fear of Me in their hearts so that they will not turn away from Me.

Isaiah 11
Then a shoot will spring from the stem of Jesse,
And a branch from his roots will bear fruit.
2 The Spirit of the Lord will rest on Him,
The spirit of wisdom and understanding,
The spirit of counsel and strength,
The spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord.
3 And He will delight in the fear of the Lord,
And He will not judge by what His eyes see,
Nor make a decision by what His ears hear;
4 But with righteousness He will judge the poor,
And decide with fairness for the afflicted of the earth;

Listed are the 7 spirits of God referred to several times in Revelation.

So the indwelling presence of His Spirit one received on being born again includes the Spirit of the Fear of the Lord, and seals us against falling away.

However you seem to have an issue with proclaiming Scripture in the public space as Folau did.

You also claim He is not a believer in the Trinity but you have not presented any contemporary evidence of this.

Sadly you attack a believer with a wonderful and courageous faith and derail the thread with unfounded theological accusations, potentially robbing the readers of sharing in the blessing and encouragement He brings though these faithful servants.