ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

[Chesterton]

Or not make your goal.

I suppose failure is an option, but then what's the point of setting goals?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

I suppose failure is an option, but then what's the point of setting goals?

To have something to aim for? If you say "We want to improve this metric by 30%" but you only manage to improve by 25%, that's still an improvement.

The idea that failure is not an option sets up some pretty bad scenarios. Like the one that you described.

 

[Chesterton]

To have something to aim for? If you say "We want to improve this metric by 30%" but you only manage to improve by 25%, that's still an improvement.

The idea that failure is not an option sets up some pretty bad scenarios. Like the one that you described.

I don't think people without pink hair would consider that an improvement.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Satire aside...sounds like Ted Cruz had some rather harsh words for the FCC Chair over this matter...

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/19/politics/ted-cruz-fcc-abc-mob

Ted Cruz compares FCC chair to mafia boss over his Kimmel warning

Cruz said FCC chair Brendan Carr sounded like a mafia boss when he threatened ABC over Jimmy Kimmel's comments on Charlie Kirk.

www.newsweek.com

 

[RDKirk]

Thank you for using the past tense - it was necessary.

IMO, it will be necessary until the Boomer Generation--which was the last generation to directly experience the effects both pro and con of Jim Crow--is in the grave.

The person who blurred the difference was the person Kirk was talking with. I admit I did the same. I wasn't thinking anyone would get pedantic about it. But the bottom line is they both want to fill quotas.

Different quotas at different points.

Putting it simply, Affirmative Action effectively got people through the front door...it would get a black person into pilot training. Equal opportunity was the goal, and the word "opportunity" has a distinct meaning.

DEI has the goal of equitable outcome, and if the outcome is not equitable, then the standards must be "adjusted" until the outcome is equitable.

Those are very, very different propositions.

 

[The Barbarian]

Trump loves America

Except when it came time to defend America. "Oh, my bone spurs! The pain! The pain!"

He calls those who did defend America "losers" and "suckers." We won't forget.

 

[The Barbarian]

Why would your average black guy be a better basketball player than your average white guy?

Turns out, they were better fighter pilots than your average white guy...

Remembering the Tuskegee Airmen | U.S. Department of the Interior

Breaking racial barriers in WWII

www.doi.gov

 

[Landon Caeli]

Turns out, they were better fighter pilots than your average white guy...

Remembering the Tuskegee Airmen | U.S. Department of the Interior

Breaking racial barriers in WWII

www.doi.gov

If they were that good, then why aren't they still alive?

 

[Chesterton]

Turns out, they were better fighter pilots than your average white guy...

Remembering the Tuskegee Airmen | U.S. Department of the Interior

Breaking racial barriers in WWII

www.doi.gov

And what does that have to do with the tea in China?

 

[RDKirk]

And what does that have to do with the tea in China?

Since the issue under discussion is black pilots, then pointing out how good black pilots have been is certainly more relevant that pointing out how good black basketball players have been.

 

[Chesterton]

Since the issue under discussion is black pilots, then pointing out how good black pilots have been is certainly more relevant that pointing out how good black basketball players have been.

Who said black pilots weren't good?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

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Satire aside...sounds like Ted Cruz had some rather harsh words for the FCC Chair over this matter...

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/19/politics/ted-cruz-fcc-abc-mob

Ted Cruz compares FCC chair to mafia boss over his Kimmel warning

Cruz said FCC chair Brendan Carr sounded like a mafia boss when he threatened ABC over Jimmy Kimmel's comments on Charlie Kirk.

www.newsweek.com

Texas must have frozen over.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Texas must have frozen over.

While I'm not a huge Ted Cruz fan...he's been in the game long enough to know exactly how this is going to play out if the precedent is set that the FCC has this kind of leverage.

If the precedent is set that the FCC head can silence particular voices, that's a losing game for the Republicans simply based on the fact that in the TV media landscape, the Democrats have the numbers in their favor to win a battle of attrition.

The FCC chair could dedicate a task for trying to find 3 shows per week with left-leaning themes to pressure off the air for next two years, and the Democrats would still have the lead by a wide margin.

All a Democratic appointed FCC chair would have to do is take 2 or 3 Fox News shows off the air and nix reruns of 7th Heaven and it's game over for the Republicans.

 

[RDKirk]

While I'm not a huge Ted Cruz fan...he's been in the game long enough to know exactly how this is going to play out if the precedent is set that the FCC has this kind of leverage.

If the precedent is set that the FCC head can silence particular voices, that's a losing game for the Republicans simply based on the fact that in the TV media landscape, the Democrats have the numbers in their favor to win a battle of attrition.

The FCC chair could dedicate a task for trying to find 3 shows per week with left-leaning themes to pressure off the air for next two years, and the Democrats would still have the lead by a wide margin.

All a Democratic appointed FCC chair would have to do is take 2 or 3 Fox News shows off the air and nix reruns of 7th Heaven and it's game over for the Republicans.

MAGA does not plan ever to be put out of power, so they're not worried about that.

 

[FireDragon76]

Why would your average black guy be a better basketball player than your average white guy?

Who says they are? Just because there are alot of black pro basketball players tells us little about what the average black guy can or can't do when it comes to basketball.

Basketball is a cheap sport to play, especially in urban areas that don't have alot of space available for other athletic opportunities. That's not a coincidence, that's by design. And being a good basketball player is a path to getting a college education, by playing for a college team, you might even get a scholarship- so there's alot of incentive to play basketball well, possibly getting into college even if you don't have the money by other means. None of that has anything to do with the ability to fly an airplane.

Kirk's comments about black pilots being sus were the kind of stupid racism that shows that Kirk had an inherently low opinion of black people. You don't get anywhere near an airplane if you're incompetent, it just doesn't work that way.

 

[Bradskii]

Why would your average black guy be a better basketball player than your average white guy?

They're not. White guys are obviously so much better because there's so many more playing it than black guys. Oh, wait. I guess you mean in the US. Which is just the opposite. So, let me see. Then I guess that Australian white guys are better than your average US white guy. Isn't that odd...

Not to mention that native Americans must be absolutely useless at it.

Your question is no more than Kirk's implication that white guys are better flyers because there's so many more of them. I mean, it's obvious, isn't it? Or why your average white guy plays golf so much better than your average black guy. How come there are so many white CEOs and so few black ones? Are white guys so much smarter? There are so many more white doctors and sugeons. You could have asked why colour makes you better at medicine. Or why being white make you so much better at ballet.

 

[JSRG]

All a Democratic appointed FCC chair would have to do is take 2 or 3 Fox News shows off the air and nix reruns of 7th Heaven and it's game over for the Republicans.

Except they can't, because Fox News is a cable channel, whereas ABC is broadcast. The FCC has a lot more authority in regards to regulating content on broadcast channels than it does cable channels.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

MAGA does not plan ever to be put out of power, so they're not worried about that.

Cruz must be looking at the issue more clearly.

Ben Shapiro said something similar on his recent podcast, to the effect of "This is stupid, democrats will use this against us the next time they're in power... The country is almost a 50/50 split, people are acting like it's 70/30 in our favor, it's not, if you don't think the democrats will be in power again one day, you're a idiot"

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Except they can't, because Fox News is a cable channel, whereas ABC is broadcast. The FCC has a lot more authority in regards to regulating content on broadcast channels than it does cable channels.

For now...

The whole point is that if a new person comes into power, that can absolutely change.

 

[Chesterton]

Who says they are? Just because there are alot of black pro basketball players tells us little about what the average black guy can or can't do when it comes to basketball.

I guess I could agree, but there is such a thing as the law of averages, which isn't an actual law, but is still a thing.

Basketball is a cheap sport to play, especially in urban areas that don't have alot of space available for other athletic opportunities. That's not a coincidence, that's by design. And being a good basketball player is a path to getting a college education, by playing for a college team, you might even get a scholarship- so there's alot of incentive to play basketball well, possibly getting into college even if you don't have the money by other means. None of that has anything to do with the ability to fly an airplane.

Every sport can be cheap to play. You don't need regulation sizes or professional equipment to pick up the basics of a game. Kids play hockey on residential streets.

Kirk's comments about black pilots being sus were the kind of stupid racism that shows that Kirk had an inherently low opinion of black people. You don't get anywhere near an airplane if you're incompetent, it just doesn't work that way.

He never said black pilots were sus. He said DEI is sus.