The Lost House of Israel

[keras]

Concepts/teachings dont conflict with each other. So if you make a statement that says the church is now the true Israel, then nothing else in the bible should conflict with that view. The problem is, there ARE conflictions.
The reference to the "body of Christ", the reference to a distinction between "Christians" and "Jews" when Paul taught.

Sorry Delvianna, I have been away and this got overlooked.
With this issue of who is the true Israel of God, we must go right back to when the ten Northern tribes separated from Judah, after King Solomon died. This separation was as God Planned - 1 Kings 12:24.
Not long after, the Assyrians came down 'like a wolf on the fold.....', as Tennysons poem says and they were exiled to Northern Assyria, now the Caucasus region. The historical record and by many other means, prove they migrated across Europe and the Prophesies Promises to them by Jacob and Moses, indicate who they are today.

Therefore; the House of Israel is still scattered among the nations, James 1:1, 1 Peter 1:1, and it is mainly them who have accepted the Gospel Message. WE Christians await the fulfilment of our destiny, as we go to live in all of the Holy Land, being the people God always wanted there, but has never yet had.
In Amos 2:4-5, the fate of Jewish Israel is described, Amos 9:6-15 tells of the restoration of Christian Israel.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

And you never said where the word RAPTURE. is found in the BIBLE ,as there is NOT a Greek word called RAPTURE,,

and in my 40. years have yet to see it in. the KJV at all. !! I. am speaking to MISTER TATE. !!

And will be AGOG. if you find it ??

dan p

Who is mister tate?

 

[David Lamb]

Who is mister tate?

Probably forum member PatrickTate.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Probably forum member PatrickTate.

I have no idea who that is...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Sorry Delvianna, I have been away and this got overlooked.
With this issue of who is the true Israel of God, we must go right back to when the ten Northern tribes separated from Judah, after King Solomon died. This separation was as God Planned - 1 Kings 12:24.
Not long after, the Assyrians came down 'like a wolf on the fold.....', as Tennysons poem says and they were exiled to Northern Assyria, now the Caucasus region. The historical record and by many other means, prove they migrated across Europe and the Prophesies Promises to them by Jacob and Moses, indicate who they are today.

Therefore; the House of Israel is still scattered among the nations, James 1:1, 1 Peter 1:1, and it is mainly them who have accepted the Gospel Message. WE Christians await the fulfilment of our destiny, as we go to live in all of the Holy Land, being the people God always wanted there, but has never yet had.
In Amos 2:4-5, the fate of Jewish Israel is described, Amos 9:6-15 tells of the restoration of Christian Israel.

 

[Dan Perez]

Who is mister tate?

Who is mister tate?

Who is mister tate?

And he began the OP , THE LOST HOUSE OF ISRAEL , and you are on it now. !!

dan p

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Oh OK, I must have come into the thread late. I just figured it was Keras...

 

[keras]

Oh OK, I must have come into the thread late. I just figured it was Keras...

Someone needs to post Biblical truths:

A Jewish Redemption?
In Romans 11:28-32: it does say some of the Jewish people will receive God's mercy, despite their continued rejection of Jesus. Romans 9:27
There will be two main criteria for this:
1/ They must be actual members of the House of Judah. Not those who call themselves Jews, but are not. Revelation 2:9
2/ They must show true repentance and remorse, as Jeremiah 12:14-16 tells us:..... I will have pity on them [Judah] and bring them back to their Land, if they learn the ways of My People, [Christians] and swear allegiance to My Name.
Note; the remnant Jews will be so ashamed of their errors, they will keep very quiet. Ezekiel 16:63

However; the main Christian peoples who will go to live in all of the holy Land after the Lord has cleared and cleansed it, Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Revelation 6:12, will mostly be descendants of the ten Northern tribes; the House of Israel, joined by every faithful Christian from every race, nation and language. Isaiah 66:18b-21, Revelation 5:9-10
This will fulfil God's promise to the Patriarchs, that their descendants will inherit the holy Land. Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romans 9:24-26

 

[Dan Perez]

Someone needs to post Biblical truths:

A Jewish Redemption?
In Romans 11:28-32: it does say some of the Jewish people will receive God's mercy, despite their continued rejection of Jesus. Romans 9:27
There will be two main criteria for this:
1/ They must be actual members of the House of Judah. Not those who call themselves Jews, but are not. Revelation 2:9
2/ They must show true repentance and remorse, as Jeremiah 12:14-16 tells us:..... I will have pity on them [Judah] and bring them back to their Land, if they learn the ways of My People, [Christians] and swear allegiance to My Name.
Note; the remnant Jews will be so ashamed of their errors, they will keep very quiet. Ezekiel 16:63

However; the main Christian peoples who will go to live in all of the holy Land after the Lord has cleared and cleansed it, Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Revelation 6:12, will mostly be descendants of the ten Northern tribes; the House of Israel, joined by every faithful Christian from every race, nation and language. Isaiah 66:18b-21, Revelation 5:9-10
This will fulfil God's promise to the Patriarchs, that their descendants will inherit the holy Land. Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romans 9:24-26

 

[Dan Perez]

And why does Rom 11:26 that. and so. all of. Israeli will be saved ???????

In Romans 11:28 says :

# 1 AS CONCERNING //. KATA , IS. A PREPOSTION

# 2 THE. // HO , is a DEFINITE ARTICLE

# 3 GOSPEL. // EUANGELION. , in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the Singular , in. the Plural

# 4. THEY ARE. //. was added

# 5 ENEMIES. // ECHTHROS. , is in. the Nominative Case , in. the Plural

# 6 FOR // DIA. , PREPOSIATION

# 7. YOUR // HYMAS , PERSONAL POSSESSEIVE PRONOUN. , in the ACCUSATIVE Case , in the Plural

# 8. SAKE //. DIA , is a Conjuncation

# 9. BUT //. DE. , is a Conjuncaion

# 10. AS TOUCHING. // KATO , is a PREPOSTION

# 11 THE // HO , is a Definite Auricle. in. the ACCUSAIVE Case , in the Singular

# 12 ELECTION. // ekloge in. the Accusative Case , in. the Singular

# 13. THEY ARE , was added

# 14 BELOVED // AGOPETOS , in. the NOMINATIVE CASE , in. the Plural

# 15 FOR // DIA , is a Proposition

# 16 THE //. HO , in. ACCUSATIVE CASE , is plural

# 17. FATHERS. // PATER , in. the Accusative Case

# 18 SAKES // DIA. is a Preposition

dan p

 

[keras]

And why does Rom 11:26 that. and so. all of. Israeli will be saved ???????

ALL the faithful Christian Israelis. NOT the Jesus hating majority. Luke 19:27
Paul said that only a remnant of [Jewish] Israel will be saved.

ALL of Israel must include people from all the 12 tribes. Who are now the Christian peoples; from every tribe, race, nation and language,

 

[David Lamb]

I have no idea who that is...

The writer of Post 11 on this thread.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Someone needs to post Biblical truths:

Except most of the time you don't...just out of context quotes...

 

[keras]

Except most of the time you don't...just out of context quotes...

I post Bible truths, scriptures which contradict your beliefs.
Comments as above, have no support and simply show frustration for being unable to counter the reality of the Prophetic Word.

 

[keras]

It is God’s plan that the House of Judah, i.e. the Jews, remain as an identifiable people group to fulfil the tasks assigned to them. In these present days, one task has been to replant and rebuild the Land.

But the 10 Northern tribes, that is, the House of Israel, have been lost to history.
Deuteronomy 32:26 says - I will cause the memory of them to cease among men.

However, the Bible does give us some clues as to who they might be today:
Who has received the blessings promised? Where will they eventually come from to return to the Land?

THE BLESSINGS-
To Abraham: Father of many nations, exceedingly fruitful,
To Isaac: numberless descendants, Land given to them.
To Jacob: The richness of the earth. Peoples will serve you. Curses on those who curse you, blessing on those who bless you.
To the 12 sons of Jacob (Israel): See in Genesis 49.
1 Chronicles 5:1-2 states that the Birthright Blessing is given to Joseph.

In Genesis 48 Jacob blesses Joseph’s sons, Ephraim and Manasseh. Both were to become great nations.
Deuteronomy 33:17 The 10,000s of Ephraim and the 1000s of Manasseh will push against the nations, even to the ends of the earth.

Only the British Commonwealth and the United States of America fulfil these prophecies. The other 8 tribes seem to be identified with the European Union nations.
Ref: The Tribes, Yair Davidy.

RETURN AND REJOINING IN THE LAND:
There are over forty prophecies telling us of the House of Israel’s return to the Promised Land in the last days, so where they will migrate from gives the clues as to where they are now:
Jeremiah 31:8-10 See, I bring them from a Northern land ... gathered from the far ends of the earth.....a vast company...I am a Father to Israel and Ephraim is My eldest son.
Isaiah 49:12 They are coming, some from far away, some from the North and West and others from the land of Sinim. (Sinim - Hebrew: Southern land, Latin: Australi)
Hosea 11: They will follow the Lord and when He roars His sons will speed out of the West.
Ezekiel 34:11-16 I shall gather My lost sheep...and bring them back to their own Land.....

So, the main location of the lost ten tribes is in the Northwest and from there, spread around the world. They are now the Christian peoples, Jesus’ mission to save the Lost tribes of Israel did not fail.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I post Bible truths, scriptures which contradict your beliefs.
Comments as above, have no support and simply show frustration for being unable to counter the reality of the Prophetic Word.

You post scripture you use to try to prove your theories but they are out of context and incorrectly interpreted. Anyone can do that. 1+1 =2, not 11

 

[keras]

You post scripture you use to try to prove your theories but they are out of context and incorrectly interpreted. Anyone can do that. 1+1 =2, not 11

Example please. With your interpretation and contextual proofs.
For example; - Who are those people in Jeremiah 31:8-10?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Example please. With your interpretation and contextual proofs.

I am speaking directly regarding your British Israelism posts. I have already posted multiple times...