Former Pink Floyd member Roger Waters faces possible prosecution after supporting banned Palestine Action

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

What makes you think my country will be under Sharia law any more than it will be under Biblical law?

Liverpool already has over a 6% Muslim population.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Liverpool already has over a 6% Muslim population.

That's over 25,000 of them.

Sadly, it won't be long before England evolves into "something else".

 

[Landon Caeli]

What makes you think my country will be under Sharia law any more than it will be under Biblical law?

The saddest part, is that you won't be around to see the full culmination of what you've helped put into place.

 

[NxNW]

Well, Roger Waters is a known, long-time anti-semite... This is nothing new with him.

I've seen Waters in concert several times, along with Gilmour, and the Gilmour-led Floyd. Roger's 'The Wall' in 2012 was probably the best show I've ever seen, followed by the 2017 tour. I never heard him say anything antisemitic, though I do hear him criticizing the actions of the Israeli government. I read an extensive interview with him a couple years ago, and he wasn't totally coherent when it comes to Israel vs Palestine, but again, I didn't read anything antisemitic. Maybe someone can clarify if I missed it.

He's been known to wear Nazi SS costumes on stage, on several occasions, and I believe he's been doing it since the 1980's.

No, he's never worn a Nazi costume onstage. As part of The Wall, he wears a fascist costume that resembles a Nazi uniform in order to depict the evils of fascism. That's part of what The Wall is all about. During the 2017 tour, he depicted various religious and monetary symbols all being dropped from a plane like bombs. It was a metaphor, you see. Apparently there were objections to the Star of David being shown in quick succession with the Dollar symbol, though the Cross and other symbols were included in the depiction as well. So he simply changed the order of the symbols and that was that. If you watch The Wall movie during the song Goodbye Blue Skies, you'll see such depictions are nothing new.

The rift with Gilmour is decades-old, tracing back to his 80s-era lawsuit claiming that Pink Floyd was creatively spent without him. They slag each other in the press at times, but Gilmour is more than happy to make money performing tunes that Roger wrote. They both still release solo albums, but none are as good as when they were working together. A year or so ago, Gilmour's wife Polly Samson criticized Waters as being antisemitic, and Gilmour made a statement agreeing. In preparation for his 2024 tour, Gilmour announced that he might skip the 70s-era Floyd tunes written by Waters, but Polly convinced him otherwise. Again, he's willing to play them when money is on the line.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I didn't read anything antisemitic. Maybe someone can clarify if I missed it.

Um, OK... https://www.adl.org/resources/fact-sheet/roger-waters-his-own-words

 

[NxNW]

Um, OK... https://www.adl.org/resources/fact-sheet/roger-waters-his-own-words

Your source says

• For a period of time in 2010, Waters’ shows featured video of an array of symbols that placed the Jewish Star of David next to dollar signs. Waters defended himself, writing on his website that “there are no hidden meanings in the order or juxtaposition of these symbols.” However, by an October 6, 2010 show in New York City, the video no longer showed the two symbols next to each other.

As I already explained, this depiction included numerous religious and monetary symbols being dropped like bombs. He severely criticizes Christianity, and the US and British governments also. To single out two of the many targets and label it antisemitic is dishonest journalism, and as a result, I question the accuracy and bias of everything on that page.

 

[Landon Caeli]

I've seen Waters in concert several times, along with Gilmour, and the Gilmour-led Floyd. Roger's 'The Wall' in 2012 was probably the best show I've ever seen, followed by the 2017 tour. I never heard him say anything antisemitic, though I do hear him criticizing the actions of the Israeli government. I read an extensive interview with him a couple years ago, and he wasn't totally coherent when it comes to Israel vs Palestine, but again, I didn't read anything antisemitic. Maybe someone can clarify if I missed it.

No, he's never worn a Nazi costume onstage. As part of The Wall, he wears a fascist costume that resembles a Nazi uniform in order to depict the evils of fascism. That's part of what The Wall is all about. During the 2017 tour, he depicted various religious and monetary symbols all being dropped from a plane like bombs. It was a metaphor, you see. Apparently there were objections to the Star of David being shown in quick succession with the Dollar symbol, though the Cross and other symbols were included in the depiction as well. So he simply changed the order of the symbols and that was that. If you watch The Wall movie during the song Goodbye Blue Skies, you'll see such depictions are nothing new.

The rift with Gilmour is decades-old, tracing back to his 80s-era lawsuit claiming that Pink Floyd was creatively spent without him. They slag each other in the press at times, but Gilmour is more than happy to make money performing tunes that Roger wrote. They both still release solo albums, but none are as good as when they were working together. A year or so ago, Gilmour's wife Polly Samson criticized Waters as being antisemitic, and Gilmour made a statement agreeing. In preparation for his 2024 tour, Gilmour announced that he might skip the 70s-era Floyd tunes written by Waters, but Polly convinced him otherwise. Again, he's willing to play them when money is on the line.

An interesting fact, is that Roger Waters has performed two concerts in Israel, and not once in Palestine. And that's because Israel is friendly, particularly in the village of Neve Shalom, where Jews and Muslims live side by side, in peace... No such place could ever exist on the palestinian side, because hatred, fascism, nationalism and mob mentality thrive on that side.

Neve Shalom (Oasis of Peace)

 

[Larniavc]

Because it already is in certain areas.

Where?

 

[Larniavc]

Liverpool already has over a 6% Muslim population.

So what?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

So what?

Yep

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Where?

Seriously lol? Look it up!

 

[Larniavc]

That's over 25,000 of them.

Sadly, it won't be long before England evolves into "something else".

England has been evolving into something else for over 2000 years due to multiple waves of invasion and immigration.

That’s not going to stop anytime soon.

 

[Larniavc]

Seriously lol? Look it up!

You tell me. I think you made it up. Show me.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I question the accuracy and bias of everything on that page.

Of course YOU do...I wouldn't expect anything else...

 

[Landon Caeli]

England has been evolving into something else for over 2000 years due to multiple waves of invasion and immigration.

That’s not going to stop anytime soon.

But it evolved 'for the better', or as 'equally good' the whole time.

...Now it going to evolve for the worse.

 

[NxNW]

Of course YOU do...I wouldn't expect anything else...

And for good reason, since I provided an example of them publishing inaccurate information.

 

[Larniavc]

But it evolved 'for the better', or as 'equally good' the whole time.

...Now it going to evolve for the worse.

I live here (near Liverpool) and it’s great. You seem to be complaining about tigers that don’t exist.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

You tell me. I think you made it up. Show me.

There are 85 Sharia courts in the UK, even in areas of London. A poll has found that almost 40% of British Muslims think it would be desirable to implement Sharia Law within the next two decades. 50% of UK Muslims think homosexuality should be outlawed in the UK....

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

And for good reason, since I provided an example of them publishing inaccurate information.

YOU say it was inaccurate...hey if you want to defend a known anti-semite...knock yourself out!

 

[NxNW]

YOU say it was inaccurate...

It's factual. Here is the original video of Goodbye Blue Sky from The Wall. It's a scathing indictment of violence resulting from Christianity, as you'll see. In his recent tours, the symbolism was expanded to include other religions and monetary symbols. You can see it here, starting a minute into the video.

Any other facts you want to argue with?