Watch: CNN Cuts Tulsi Gabbard Off as She Lays Out the Inconvenient Facts of the Russia Hoax

[eclipsenow]

They are left biased

Um - she said sources.
Not reporting media, sources.

Like this CIA guy who actually wrote the Russia reports.

 

[PatrickTate]

Not this again? All these end times visions contradict each other. Take it to the eschatology forum - there are a few in there that will be quite happy to correct your preferred rumour of a hunch of a wiggle from someone's left ear of a vision with visions of their own. I keep telling people the bible is enough - and to stop eating cheese so close to bedtime. But do they listen? Nope. So take it to the Eschatology section - and let the Vision Wars commence! (I'm having a break from that area for a few months because those peeps be cray-cray passionate!)

Actually many of those end time visions fit together quite nicely but of course visions can come from at least two sources.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Nice diversion to avoid the topic of your faulty charge that Trump is anti democracy. Just wait until you get the real story about Jan 6. I assure it was not instigated by Trump.

And favored accommodations for convicted HUMAN TRAFFIC OFFEDERS? Probably in exchange for naming some democrats. You are ok with that also no doubt.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Well is he a full blown idiot on one hand but on the other hand a genius that has taken over all 3 branches of the government?
Surely he can’t be both

They were handed to him by his faithful.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Yes - it amazes me that the party of law and order are so patriotic they cheered on as Trump pardoned career criminals who stormed the capital and bashed police!

So many are so completely mesmerized by him.

 

[BPPLEE]

They were handed to him by his faithful.

So he is an idiot savant?

 

[eclipsenow]

Nice diversion to avoid the topic of your faulty charge that Trump is anti democracy. Just wait until you get the real story about Jan 6. I assure it was not instigated by Trump.

There were all sorts of groups converging on the Capitol that day. Many had become unhinged just from watching the Fox propaganda network echoing Trump's Big Lie that the election had been stolen! It's not surprising for someone with NPD to be completely unable to accept defeat.

More than 230 doctors say Trump is too unstable to be president in open letter

Letter states that the Republican candidate ‘appears to be showing signs of cognitive decline that urgently call for a full neurological workup’

www.independent.co.uk

It's not so much that Trump is mentally unwell - it's that he has a disorder - a reduced capacity to empathise and see the world as it is. He is a very dangerous man in a very dangerous position.

The Big Lie cost Fox News and Rupert Murdoch $787 million USD, and Rupert Murdoch stated in court that even with all his journalists working on the story - there was no real evidence of vote rigging in the 2020 election.

https://apnews.com/article/fox-news...l-trump-2020-0ac71f75acfacc52ea80b3e747fb0afe

So Trump lied. Bigly! This remains one of the biggest scandals in recent American history - and yet Republicans white-wash it for some reason.
But the right love their echo-chambers - and are loyal to QANON (15% of Americans), Fox News, and Trump.

Then Jan 06 arrived. During his campaign and speeches and debates, Trump famously 'dog-whistled' to various crazy groups - including QANON - tweeting WWG1WGA. He appeared to endorse the Proud Boys when he said "Stand back, stand by." He did not mind appealing to all manner of extremists - as long as they voted for him.

(PS: What is with American militant groups having such bad names? "Oath-keepers" sounds like a church purity movement. "Proud Boys" sounds like the opposite - some sort of Mardi Gras float! But I digress.)

Many QANON types were already convinced "The Storm" was coming to prevent Biden's inauguration on the 20th - an actual military coup. With this in the air - so many groups there were primed for violence to prevent Certification on Jan 6. But the main issue? The Big Lie. If citizens genuinely believed the Big Lie Trump pushed and Fox repeated - then he holds responsibility for what happened on the day.

Jan 06 arrives. Trump turns up and rallies the crowd! From conservative, gentle church folk through to that foaming-at-the-mouth Shaman - he rallied them. They heard THEIR PRESIDENT saying:

'We won this election, and we won it by a landslide'​

'We will stop the steal'​

'We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen'​

'If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore'​

Then he DID say:

'Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard'​

But then he also said....

'We are going to the Capitol'​

Really? Trump didn't go with them. Many might have thought he was going with them - adding to the frenzy of excitement that day.

The rest his history. The Capitol stormed. 5 dead. 1600 protestors moving illegally through the Capital - hundreds convicted of violence against police. And Trump? He pardoned them all. They were heroes to him. They verified his worldview. That he is the centre of the universe - the bigliest and most wondefulist thing to happen to the planet. And so the 'law and order' party pardoned people who killed cops.

Great job!

​

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[Postvieww]

And favored accommodations for convicted HUMAN TRAFFIC OFFEDERS? Probably in exchange for naming some democrats. You are ok with that also no doubt.

I am in favor of truth coming out and would think you would as well.

 

[BPPLEE]

Um - she said sources.
Not reporting media, sources.

Like this CIA guy who actually wrote the Russia reports.

She was responding to a post about reporting media sources

 

[A2SG]

No lies It was stolen. PS they also tried and failed in 2016 and 2024.

Perhaps because he saw how effective it was when Democrats did it in 2016.

So you guys believe the Democratic Party is so ruthlessly organized and diabolically efficient as to pull that off without a hitch, and without leaving behind even a trace of evidence?

Seriously?

-- A2SG, or maybe you meant some other Democratic Party?

 

[eclipsenow]

Actually many of those end time visions fit together quite nicely but of course visions can come from at least two sources.

This is not the forum for this

 

[eclipsenow]

She was responding to a post about reporting media sources

He said, she said; all about commenters here; yawn.

Disproving what Michael Van Landingham has to say about his own team's Russian reports - that's another matter!

 

[BPPLEE]

He said, she said; all about commenters here; yawn.

Disproving what Michael Van Landingham has to say about his own team's Russian reports - that's another matter!

Non responsive, and it was you who started the he said she said
Quote "Um - she said sources."

 

[eclipsenow]

Non responsive, and it was you who started the he said she said
Quote "Um - she said sources."

AND my point is that the alt-right here don't want to deal in real sources.

They just want to repeat Fox News talking points hyping up the melodrama about the latest political spin from Gabbard - or the latest person shrieking hysterical nonsense analysing or promoting Gabbard.

My point is you don't WANT to discuss actual sources - because they're not saying what Gabbard or Trump say, are they?

Which is sort of THE point.

You've been had.

None of this is real.

It's all a diversion.

From Epstein!

 

[BPPLEE]

AND my point is that the alt-right here don't want to deal in real sources.

They just want to repeat Fox News talking points hyping up the melodrama about the latest political spin from Gabbard - or the latest person shrieking hysterical nonsense analysing or promoting Gabbard.

My point is you don't WANT to discuss actual sources - because they're not saying what Gabbard or Trump say, are they?

Which is sort of THE point.

You've been had.

None of this is real.

It's all a diversion.

From Epstein!

You must be thinking of someone else. I haven’t posted anything near what you’re talking about

 

[ozso]

AND my point is that the alt-right here don't want to deal in real sources.

They just want to repeat Fox News talking points hyping up the melodrama about the latest political spin from Gabbard - or the latest person shrieking hysterical nonsense analysing or promoting Gabbard.

My point is you don't WANT to discuss actual sources - because they're not saying what Gabbard or Trump say, are they?

Which is sort of THE point.

You've been had.

None of this is real.

It's all a diversion.

From Epstein!

When Epstein! ends up going nowhere, I suppose the claim will be that it went nowhere because of the so called diversions.

 

[Say it aint so]

When Epstein! ends up going nowhere, I suppose the claim will be that it went nowhere because of the so called diversions.

More like, although the coverup bad, eventually Trump et al have the means to make sure it settles down. The sex trafficker has been moved to a minimum security facility, and you can bet some kind of agreement has been made. There will eventually be pardon. I find it kind of humorous the "Epstein was murdered diversion" was the mechanism in which they are being hung by their own petard.

 

[ozso]

More like, although the coverup bad, eventually Trump et al have the means to make sure it settles down. The sex trafficker has been moved to a minimum security facility, and you can bet some kind of agreement has been made. There will eventually be pardon. I find it kind of humorous the "Epstein was murdered diversion" was the mechanism in which they are being hung by their own petard.

Whatever, it's most likely going to end up as another nothingburger the left has pinned all of their hopes upon.

 

[Say it aint so]

Whatever, it's most likely going to end up as another nothingburger the left has pinned all of their hopes upon.

Yep, that darn left: The Republicans back measure forcing House vote on Epstein files

I understand people have different takes on moral matters, but when it comes to special treatment for a sex trafficker of kids for pedophilia use garners a "whatever" that kind of speaks for itself.

 

[NxNW]

So riddle me this: If no one was pushing the narrative that vote tallies had been tampered with, why did a poll at the time show that more than 2/3 of Democrats believed that vote tallies had been tampered with? Where do you suppose they got such an idea?

The issue isn't what how Democratic voters' beliefs. It's about alleged crimes by Obama (there were none) vs actual crimes committed by the Trump organization (of which there were many).