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Watch: CNN Cuts Tulsi Gabbard Off as She Lays Out the Inconvenient Facts of the Russia Hoax

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Obama conspired to subvert Trump’s first presidential administration. Documents and whistleblowers are coming forth. Liberal frantic protest will not stop this exposure.
Those are allegations, and "you just wait and see". What facts do you have?

Obama asked for a ICA assessment where the reality that Russia was indeed interfering in US elections for the benefit of Trump was in fact true. It was a concern given to use by our Five allied nation, and again proven to be true. I suggest you go ahead and line up to kick the football while Lucy holds it for you. It will lead to the same results as always.
 
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Gabbard's lies don't supplant the results of Mueller's and Senate investigations.
Historians ranked Trump at the bottom after one term. The framers of Project 2025 installed a puppet who believes he is running the show but is manipulated by flattery.

I believe you believe this - but it is demonstrably false
The Bipartisan Senate investigation Fantine mentions:

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The Mueller Report Fantine mentions:

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There are factual reasons to believe it.
 
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Those are allegations, and "you just wait and see". What facts do you have?

Obama asked for a ICA assessment where the reality that Russia was indeed interfering in US elections for the benefit of Trump was in fact true. It was a concern given to use by our Five allied nation, and again proven to be true. I suggest you go ahead and line up to kick the football while Lucy holds it for you. It will lead to the same results as always.
That's why it's being carried out as a PR campaign instead of a serious legal case.
 
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Obama conspired to subvert Trump’s first presidential administration.
When, exactly? When Trump took office, Obama left the public eye, pretty much. The Mueller Report was commissioned by Trump's people, staffed by Trump's people and redacted by Trump's people.

Obama didn't tell Giuliani to go dig up information on Biden's family. Obama didn't tell Trump's staff to object to the quid pro quo attempt. Obama had nothing to do with the J6 insurrection attempt.
Documents and whistleblowers are coming forth.
Perhaps, but they are all old and moldy.
Liberal frantic protest will not stop this exposure.
This exposure is all about creating a smokescreen for Trump's Epstein scandal which isn't going away.
 
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That's why it's being carried out as a PR campaign instead of a serious legal case.
It’s just like their rigged election hoax. Make big allegations on Fox and hold big official press conferences and then walk back the claims when under oath and in a court of law.
 
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When, exactly? When Trump took office, Obama left the public eye, pretty much. The Mueller Report was commissioned by Trump's people, staffed by Trump's people and redacted by Trump's people.

Obama didn't tell Giuliani to go dig up information on Biden's family. Obama didn't tell Trump's staff to object to the quid pro quo attempt. Obama had nothing to do with the J6 insurrection attempt.

Perhaps, but they are all old and moldy.

This exposure is all about creating a smokescreen for Trump's Epstein scandal which isn't going away.
Trump is not involved in the perversion of the Epstein affair. If he were the Biden regime surely would have exposed it. The current attempts to tie Trump to the dark side of Epstein is the smoke screen.
 
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So far all your attempts to demonstrate that have only strengthened my convictions.
Yes, I am aware you do not like facts that don't support your position. Perhaps that is why you seldom link - regardless - the truth is the truth.

Even with CNN doing it's level best to stop the truth from coming out - it's out and Justice will run it's course.
 
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Trump is not involved in the perversion of the Epstein affair.
Lols. Trump was very involved with Epstein in the past. He could release the Epstein files now, but he makes excuses and accusations instead.
If he were the Biden regime surely would have exposed it.
It's funny how many people believe that Biden would act like Trump. This is just projection.
The current attempts to tie Trump to the dark side of Epstein is the smoke screen.
He is tied. He tied himself to his former pal.
 
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Yes, I am aware you do not like facts that don't support your position. Perhaps that is why you seldom link - regardless - the truth is the truth.

Even with CNN doing it's level best to stop the truth from coming out - it's out and Justice will run it's course.
It is exactly because "the truth is the truth" that we believe the truth over Tulsi Gabbard's desperate attempt to make up for her mistakes and get back into Trump's good graces. We see it as what it is, a Hail Mary pass.
 
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It is exactly because "the truth is the truth" that we believe the truth over Tulsi Gabbard's desperate attempt to make up for her mistakes and get back into Trump's good graces. We see it as what it is, a Hail Mary pass.
While being your considered opinion - it's not fact - unless you can prove it from an unbiased source -

I don't expect you to, but who knows - miracles still happen
 
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CNN's coverup of this information is so complete that no one here seems able to describe or explain the substance of the matter.
 
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CNN's coverup of this information is so complete that no one here seems able to describe or explain the substance of the matter.
The ones that don't depend on CNN can - you should open a thread and maybe learn something.
 
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Thanks, say it ain't so, for publishing the incontrovertible facts that Always in his presence requested.
That isn't addressing what I asked for - want someone else to try and back you up?
 
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The ones that don't depend on CNN can -

Oh? When are you guys going to start?

you should open a thread and maybe learn something.
From what? Your Western Journal op-eds? Or your AI summaries? Or your nonsensical conspiracy theories about burn bags? Or the Tulsi Gabbard memo that repeatedly conflates hacking of vote counts with meddling in an election?

Not one of you guys has done anything more than repeat back the claims of your propagandist media outlets. Who among you has pointed to an element of the 100-page document dump as being anything close to a smoking gun?

None of you.

So, please, tell us, what is it we’re going to learn in this new thread from you all who have, thus far, done absolutely nothing to demonstrate that you have even a rudimentary understanding of the material?
 
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The Bipartisan Senate investigation Fantine mentions:

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The Mueller Report Fantine mentions:

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There are factual reasons to believe it.

There is a vast difference between a Russian-sponsored social media campaign and vote tampering. Both of these are things are being equally classified as "interference" to muddy the waters.

So riddle me this: If no one was pushing the narrative that vote tallies had been tampered with, why did a poll at the time show that more than 2/3 of Democrats believed that vote tallies had been tampered with? Where do you suppose they got such an idea? Do you think 67% of Democrats just made that up? I'm genuinely curious why you think they thought that.

To me, it's pretty obvious. That's what Democrats and the mainstream media wanted them to think. So they whined and moaned all over to the willing media about the "stolen" election and called Trump "illegitimate" despite having no evidence whatsoever that was true. And they were happy to let their gullible voting base believe that votes had been tampered with in said "stolen" election. Only to incredulously claim, "Who, ME??!!!" when the voters swallowed the propaganda and believed the lie that vote tallies had been tampered with.

I'm curious to hear your alternative explanation as to how more than 2/3 of Democrats came to believe that Russia had tampered with vote tallies to get Trump elected.

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Not one of you guys has done anything more than repeat back the claims of your propagandist media outlets.

Boy, ain't that ever the truth of this forum.
 
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There is a vast difference between a Russian-sponsored social media campaign and vote tampering. Both of these are things are being equally classified as "interference" to muddy the waters.
And Tulsi Gabbard is still muddying those waters.
 
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And Tulsi Gabbard is still muddying those waters.

Perhaps, but it was the Democrats who first took the opportunity to intentionally muddy the waters in 2016. The word "interference" was bandied about with the word "stolen" and "illegitimate" by a willing and complicit media to get people to believe that Russia had tampered with vote tallies. And it worked. 67% of Democrats, 41% of Independents, and 17% of Republicans believed it was either "absolutely" or "probably" true that Russia tampered with vote tallies to get Trump elected.
 
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