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Watch: CNN Cuts Tulsi Gabbard Off as She Lays Out the Inconvenient Facts of the Russia Hoax

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I watch your posted video, yes every word. It was nothing more than a bath in liberal vomit.
When you can reply substantively and refute various facts - I will reply in kind.
Until then - your post is characterised by the V word you used.
 
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Gabbard is trying to run with her bosses brain blurt. You know - when his lips start moving before his brain has engaged with the other lies he's told recently? Oh what a tangled web he weaves, when Donald first started to deceive!

SO MANY LIES!

AS WITH THE EPSTEIN FILES...

ANYTHING to distract from the Epstein files. Are they real? Trump promised to release them during the campaign. He promised to drain the swamp! They were on her desk! Now they're not real. They're fake news. In fact - only weak boring fake Republicans doing the Democrat's work talk about them. Weaklings! In fact - they SO don't exist that Clinton and Obama wrote them! So now they exist again! They're SUCH a Democrat conspiracy that the Democrats WITHHELD the most damaging, scandalous weapon in their whole arsenal - as they lost 2 elections! THAT'S how much the Democrats fabricated them! Only to withhold them during 2 failed campaigns and one Presidential term. Such a scandalous, slanderous fraud would be a new low in American Democracy that it would have been discussed in political theory for generations. Oh - except the Epstein files are now boring? Why are people still talking about them? They're the most boring thing ever!

.... SO IT IS WITH RUSSIAN INFLUENCE ON THE 2016 ELECTION
According to Trump - the Russians were influencing the election for the Democrats! Except there was no Russian influence. Except then Obama covered up evidence that there was - and now Obama is a traitor! Riiiight! :doh: ;) :oldthumbsup: (As the kids say, liar liar pants on fire.)


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Barack Obama’s staff reportedly rushed to preserve evidence of Russian interference in the 2016 Presidential election in an attempt to leave a trail for investigators to follow later.​
In the closing days of the Democrat's term, Obama administration officials allegedly felt they had realised the full-scale of Russian intervention too late and scrambled to document information about Moscow-Trump contact.​
US allies, including the UK, had provided information about meetings in European states between associates of Mr Trump and Russian officials in President Vladimir Putin’s inner circle, the New York Times reported.​
American intelligence services had also reportedly intercepted communications between the US President's team and sources within the Kremlin.​

 
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Jonathan Turley lays out the facts very well here with also an excellent analysis.
Yes - I'm sure the Fox Alternative-Truth Propaganda Outlet did a good job pretending "excellent analysis". You know it's an entertainment channel, right? It indulges in the fantasy pretext of "What if everything Trump said was actually real?"

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Yes - I'm sure the Fox Alternative-Truth Propaganda Outlet did a good job pretending "excellent analysis". You know it's an entertainment channel, right? It indulges in the fantasy pretext of "What if everything Trump said was actually real?"

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There's just one little problem with your analysis and dismissal of the article written by Jonathan Turley. He is not a conservative. I bet that you didn't even take the time to read what Mr. Turley wrote.
 
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Senator Grassley, a longtime member of the Senate, published the facts concerning this entire scandal from the Democratic Party against President Trump.
 
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There's just one little problem with your analysis and dismissal of the article written by Jonathan Turley. He is not a conservative. I bet that you didn't even take the time to read what Mr. Turley wrote.
Turley is a Trump apologist.
 
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There's just one little problem with your analysis and dismissal of the article written by Jonathan Turley. He is not a conservative. I bet that you didn't even take the time to read what Mr. Turley wrote.
Really? After I called Fox News 'entertainment' - based on the fantasy that everything Trump says is right - you deduced that did you?
Correct. I did not read it. Instead I looked for an actual source.

So let's go back to the source. This guy. You know - one of the CIA specialists actually involved.
Imagine listening to what he has to say? Just imagine listening to a source that was involved in writing the reports - and not having your reality distorted through Fox Coloured Glasses for a moment?

 
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Really? After I called Fox News 'entertainment' - based on the fantasy that everything Trump says is right - you deduced that did you?
Correct. I did not read it. Instead I looked for an actual source.

So let's go back to the source. This guy. You know - one of the CIA specialists actually involved.
Imagine listening to what he has to say? Just imagine listening to a source that was involved in writing the reports - and not having your reality distorted through Fox Coloured Glasses for a moment?

What That analyst is saying is being directly contradicted by whistle blowers, documents and emails.
 
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No, he is not.
A counter-assertion! That's showing em!
What if I just said "Double-facto is too!"
There. Done.
Counter-counter assertion away!


Imagine listening to what a CIA specialist on the Russian case actually said?
Imagine having actual evidence against his testimony - instead of silly assertions of evidence against his testimony?

 
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What That analyst is saying is being directly contradicted by whistle blowers, documents and emails.
Also, if people think Fox News is merely entertainment, then it's my opinion that those people are living in a different reality than the real world.
 
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A counter-assertion! That's showing em!
What if I just said "Double-facto is too!"
There. Done.
Counter-counter assertion away!


Imagine listening to what a CIA specialist on the Russian case actually said?
Imagine having actual evidence against his testimony - instead of silly assertions of evidence against his testimony?

Imagine reading the declassified documents, emails, and what other whistle blowers have said.
 
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Also, if people think Fox News is merely entertainment, then it's my opinion that those people are living in a different reality than the real world.
Aren't we blessed? You've submitted assertions and opinions!

Pity about the dearth of actual, specific, verifiable evidence.

If you have one paragraph from one document that you find more credible than the eye-witness testimony of a CIA specialist involved in writing the original reports - please - do share!

Otherwise (to quote an Australian classic movie), you're just referring to ..."the vibe of the thing."

The testimony of Van Landingham stands until you do.

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Politicians are nothing if not opportunists. What better way to rile up the base than to convince them (with no evidence) that vote tallies had been tampered with using vague assertions of the election being "stolen". It's brilliant propaganda. It makes your audience believe what you want them to believe (that vote tallies had been tampered with) without directly stating it, which gives you plausible deniability when someone questions why more than 2/3 of your party believed that vote tallies had been tampered with. "Well, gee, I have no idea why people thought that. I mean, I never actually said that." And the party loyal will lap it up like crazy.

Meanwhile, it's pretty clear to objective, critical-thinking people that the Democrats were more than happy to let their voters believe the lies about vote tampering that they were indirectly pushing. And now, almost 9 years later, we have to listen to people pretend like they didn't know exactly what they were doing. Is it any wonder the Democrat party is in such dire straits?
Well, lying about a stolen election worked for Trump, so...

-- A2SG, and he's still at it....
 
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Yes - I'm sure the Fox Alternative-Truth Propaganda Outlet did a good job pretending "excellent analysis". You know it's an entertainment channel, right? It indulges in the fantasy pretext of "What if everything Trump said was actually real?"
Perfect example of typical liberal response to facts. Shoot the messenger, denigrate the source then no one has to actually deal with facts. This will not work in the real world. The truth is coming out no matter how much liberals protest , obfuscate and denigrate.
 
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From the birth of the American revolution against those distant, evil British with all their 'conspiracies' against the colonies - Conspiracy Theories have run rife in the American consciousness. The fact that the FBI bungled their coverage and investigation into the JFK assassination - and tried to cover up their own ineptitude - has added to this fervour. It keeps growing.

Trump took it mainstream. "Birthers", pushing the "Big lie", the "Deeps State" and Epstein files, constant lies and FUD about immigrants that are demonstrably, statistically untrue - Trump's malignant narcissism has him lie to his peeps at the drop of a hat. He despises his followers - and thinks they are fools. He isn't racist - so much as species-ist. EVERYBODY is beneath him - from 'friends' to enemies. He can't help it. He has a psychological disorder.

But rather than flee this pusher of tinfoil hat conspiracies, Americans followed him - and loved him for it!

Because when the privileged white start to feel like they are going to be treated as equals - it feels like persecution.

Fareed's Take covers Trump's mainstreaming of Conspiracy Theories
1.Conspiracy theorists joke speaks for itself typical liberal non humor. 2. Commutator questions why Trump doesn’t release Epstein records implying he is protecting himself. Does any reasonable thinking adult believe if there was Trump damaging material there the last regime would have kept it secret while they controlled said information? 3. The commutator bloviates on conspiracy theories with nothing more than personal opinion and typical liberal dismissiveness. Some of his dismissed topics are what is being revealed by current information and whistleblowers. It is a little premature to claim everything is a conspiracy theory before all of the facts are out and adjudicated in court. I stand by my previous comment this video is liberal vomit with the intent of ignoring facts in a mass of liberal opinion.
 
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