A whites-only community in Arkansas looking to start a franchise in Missouri

[ozso]

Are they buying land? Are they going to manage the governance of that area? They may deny that they are selling real estate - but someone owns the land.

God loves nonwhites too. White supremacy is anti-Christ.

Who owns the land in Crip territory?

 

[FreeinChrist]

What about the Amish Village?

Google is our friend.

AI response:

Yes, non-Amish individuals can buy property in Amish communities. Amish communities do not have designated areas or reservations, and there are no restrictions on who can own land or live there. Non-Amish individuals can purchase homes and farms in these areas, and it's common to find both Amish and non-Amish living and working alongside each other.​

 

[FreeinChrist]

Who owns the land in Crip territory?

Anyone white or black or hispanic or asian or whatever.

 

[FreeinChrist]

I remember when I worked for the City of North Las Vegas, there was an area called the West Side that was exclusively black. And it didn't look any more impoverished or undeveloped than the rest of North Las Vegas.

Did white folks want to buy in that area in the 1950s or 60s or 70s?
Again Google is our friend.

AI:

The Historic Westside of Las Vegas is a historically Black neighborhood located northwest of the Las Vegas Strip. It's a 3.5-square-mile area known for its rich cultural heritage and significant role in the city's Black history. While the area has diversified over the years, it remains a focal point for discussions about revitalization and preserving its unique past.

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Here's a more detailed look:​

• Historical Significance:
  The Historic Westside was once the only area where Black residents could live due to segregation. It became a thriving community with Black-owned businesses and cultural centers.

 

[ozso]

What is described in the OP is white supremacy, where whites want control of who can buy in that groups area. The want to be segregated from non-whites.

There is federal law about non-discrimination in regards to buying land and homes. Trump and his father got caught in that.

There's plenty of areas where a certain group wants to be segregated from everyone else. Certain neighborhoods you don't go into unless you're a certain ethnicity or belong to a certain group.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Folks, if your first response to reading about a white supremacist group wanting to create a whites-only commune is to play a game of whataboutism, then you probably should do some deep, deep soul searching.

-CryptoLUtheran

 

[FreeinChrist]

There's plenty of areas where a certain group wants to be segregated from everyone else. Certain neighborhoods you don't go into unless you're a certain ethnicity or belong to a certain group.

Do they conform to the anti-discrimination laws in regards to real estate? Is it because they feel they are superior to other races? Do they hate or heavily dislike other races?

 

[jacks]

Building a community based only on race, is too simplistic and based on faulty assumptions.
I think they are under the false assumption that race equals shared values.

 

[ozso]

Did white folks want to buy in that area in the 1950s or 60s or 70s?
Again Google is our friend.

AI:

The Historic Westside of Las Vegas is a historically Black neighborhood located northwest of the Las Vegas Strip. It's a 3.5-square-mile area known for its rich cultural heritage and significant role in the city's Black history. While the area has diversified over the years, it remains a focal point for discussions about revitalization and preserving its unique past.

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Here's a more detailed look:​

• Historical Significance:
  The Historic Westside was once the only area where Black residents could live due to segregation. It became a thriving community with Black-owned businesses and cultural centers.

Do blacks want to buy in the 150-160 acres located in a remote area of the Ozarks in northeastern Arkansas? Is a measly 160 acres way out in the sticks, that most likely absolutely nobody else is interested in, really something to make a big deal out of? It just sounds like a commune to me.

 

[ozso]

Do they conform to the anti-discrimination laws in regards to real estate? Is it because they feel they are superior to other races? Do they hate or heavily dislike other races?

They want a place where they're among their own kind. What about the Amish community? Why isn't there an upset over a large area in Pennsylvania that's exclusively inhabited by Germanic people who have very strict rules about what's not allowed there?

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

What about the Amish Village?

Amish people can be Mexican and Black.

 

[ozso]

Amish people can be Mexican and Black.

How many Mexican and Black Amish are there though? The only people interested in living in the Amish community are the Amish who grew up there. And the only people interested in living on a 160 plot located in a remote area of the Ozarks in northeastern Arkansas are the RTTL. Any exclusive group of any kind wanting to live in seclusion out in the middle of nowhere, really shouldn't be a problem for anyone else. And one would think most folks would want a community of white supremacists off by themselves in some remote area anyways.

 

[rambot]

Folks, if your first response to reading about a white supremacist group wanting to create a whites-only commune is to play a game of whataboutism, then you probably should do some deep, deep soul searching.

-CryptoLUtheran

Why? Liberals will call you racist and you can just ignore them.

Soul searching?


Seriously.

 

[ozso]

Folks, if your first response to reading about a white supremacist group wanting to create a whites-only commune is to play a game of whataboutism, then you probably should do some deep, deep soul searching.

-CryptoLUtheran

I disagree, because if it was any other group wanting 160 acers in a remote area to themselves, that wouldn't be an issue. What really is an issue is the idea that someone who buys 160 acres of land, can't call it private property and keep anyone off it they want to.

 

[d taylor]

How many whites wanted to live there?

Were any denied that wanted to?

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That was not the point of my post, you said it was a poor place that no whites wanted to live. Whether they wanted to live there is not the point, but that it was not a poor place.

 

[d taylor]

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Was God choosing a people for Himself raciest.

“For you are a holy people to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a special treasure above all the peoples on the face of the earth.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

In reading up on it a little more, it seems as if they're trying to leverage the "PMA loophole" as a means of being exempted from the fair housing act.

I would expect it to face legal challenges (although, not sure who would be fighting to gain entry to live on a 140 acre campground with well water and a bunch of racists)


But in a nutshell, they're leveraging (at least for right now) a similar loophole that certain HOAs use to discriminate based on age or child-having status.

For instance, there are HOA communities that exist that will outright refuse to allow the sale of a house/land within the community to someone under the age of 55 or who have children living with them.

There are also some others that operate in the grey area like Orthodox Jewish retirement communities, where they don't directly come right out and say "No non-Jewish people can live here", but they structure rules in such a way that it accomplishes the same thing.
-- For instance, HOAs can require membership in a private club/organization as a pre-requisite for living in the community (much like some can require membership in the on-community country club), some require synagogue membership.
-- They can make it so all communal spaces in the community have to conform to Kosher rules and Shabbat-friendly code of conduct.


Ironically enough, there's actually a Black group trying to do something very similar in Georgia.

Freedom, Georgia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[iluvatar5150]

Ironically enough, there's actually a Black group trying to do something very similar in Georgia.

Freedom, Georgia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Again, the key difference is that Freedom, GA isn't keeping out non-blacks the way that the group in the OP is keeping out non-whites:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/12/us/freedom-black-cooperative-toomsboro/index.html

Scott and Walters say they’ve gotten questions about why they want to create an all-Black city. Their response? It’s something that’s been done for generations.

“It’s impossible to have anything exclusively Black because our families are integrated,” says Scott. “We are an integrated, tolerant and diverse community even as Black people, so we don’t intend for it to be exclusively Black, but we do intend for it to be pro Black in every way.”

 

[ozso]

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Was God choosing a people for Himself raciest.

“For you are a holy people to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a special treasure above all the peoples on the face of the earth.

Yep, God kept them totally segregated.

 

[durangodawood]

What's described in the OP is not a town or city, but a group occupying certain territory. There's exclusive members only territories all over the country. For instance you don't go into Crip territory unless you're a Crip or you were invited.

Do you respect the idea of "Crip territory"?