Why almost all coal was made at the same time

[dlamberth]

It took evolution 300 million years ago to cut off the production of Coal.
This first 4 minutes of this video goes into a lot more information into how coal was produced than I understood. The rest is a plea for money to plant trees.

 

[AV1611VET]

It took evolution 300 million years ago to cut off the production of Coal.

Planetary evolution?

 

[dlamberth]

Planetary evolution?

Plant life evolution related to the start and end of coal production.

 

[Tuur]

Um...a quick check shows that lignite dates from 60 million years ago.

 

[AV1611VET]

Plant life evolution related to the start and end of coal production.

Oh ... okay.

You know where I stand on coal in the earth don't you?

 

[dlamberth]

Oh ... okay.

You know where I stand on coal in the earth don't you?

It's one of those surprising hidden treats that God placed in the Earth, or something like that?

 

[AV1611VET]

It's one of those surprising hidden treats that God placed in the Earth, or something like that?

Bingo!

I call them "Easter eggs."

 

[dlamberth]

Bingo!

I call them "Easter eggs."

Oh ya, I remember now. Easter eggs.

The window that science opened makes way more sense to me.

 

[AV1611VET]

Oh ya, I remember now. Easter eggs.

Yupper!

Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

In this case ...

Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to [embed coal into His creation]: but the honour of scientists is to [search and find it].

The window that science opened makes way more sense to me.

Speaking of which, you do know how those killer bees got out into the open, don't you?

 

[dlamberth]

Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to [embed coal into His creation]: but the honour of scientists is to [search and find it].

What's cool, at least to me, is that science can describe HOW God embed coal into His creation.

 

[AV1611VET]

What's cool, at least to me, is that science can describe HOW God embed coal into His creation.

I can too.

I can even name Who did it, when He did it, how He did it, why He did it, how long it took Him to do it, who witnessed it, and other things.

Can science do that?

 

[dlamberth]

I can too.

I can even name Who did it, when He did it, how He did it, why He did it, how long it took Him to do it, who witnessed it, and other things.

Can science do that?

Science, the way I understand it, is that it opens a window into how and when the process of coal making happened.
It can't do all of that other stuff that you can do.

 

[AV1611VET]

Science, the way I understand it, is that it opens a window into how and when the process of coal making happened.

Who made the coal?

And why do you assume it was via a process, and not brought into existence in a split second of time (or less)?

 

[Fervent]

Who made the coal?

That's easy, it was Steve the T-Rex back when administerial duties were carried out by dinosaurs.

And why do you assume it was via a process, and not brought into existence in a split second of time (or less)?

It's not an assumption, it's an inference.

 

[Ophiolite]

Um...a quick check shows that lignite dates from 60 million years ago.

So?
Your admirable drive for concision has impacted on delivering a message with meaning. You appear to be challenging the intial assertion of the video, but the nature of that challenge is obscure. (I do dislike his absolute "all coal", but that's a quibble.)

Side note: And I recall encountering abundant lignite while drilling in Tertiary sediments in the Java Sea, but perhaps your "from" means "from and up till quite recently".

 

[Tuur]

So?

If someone making a science video gets a fact wrong right off the bat, then why should I assume they know what they're talking about? Since lignite coal is 60 million years old, then all coal wasn't made roughly 350 or so million years ago, and that alone argues strongly against that premise.

Case in point: the man in the video prattles on about lignin and fungi, but then you come across something like this that argues against his premise:

Why was most of the Earth’s coal made all at once?

Even without that study, the existence of lignite already argues against the fungus theory simply by existing long after the supposed arrival of fungi that could break down woody material.

 

[Tuur]

Science, the way I understand it, is that it opens a window into how and when the process of coal making happened.
It can't do all of that other stuff that you can do.

Yet the premise about coal and fungi is lacking. You're all going to be sick of me saying lignite, but we can't look at all the other types of coal and dismiss it. The question then remains what is the process that turns organic matter into various types of coal? Swamps that accumulate material over long periods in areas that later undergo geologic metamorphic processes? If that's the case, then you need A, lots of swamps, and B. lots of swamps where sediment become metamorphic rock.

Note: If anyone wants to shoot that down, have at it. This is just a scientific wild guess

Just as is someone wants to shoot the following down, have at it: Were it not for burning peat, parts of Ireland might one day become a coal seam. And at the moment I'm thinking of the Okefenokee Swamp, where you can have islands of floating peat. Future coal seam?

Note: when material is submerged and is in an oxygen poor environment, it tends not to decay much. Fugus can't break down what it can't get to. So, couldn't it simply have been geologic conditions during the Carboniferous were more conducive to forming coal than later environments?

 

[BCP1928]

Science, the way I understand it, is that it opens a window into how and when the process of coal making happened.
It can't do all of that other stuff that you can do.

Yes, science has failed utterly to validate Dispensationalism.

 

[Tuur]

Yes, science has failed utterly to validate Dispensationalism.

The problem in this case is a video selling a "neato" theory that, as the study I posted shows, isn't a slam dunk.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

If someone making a science video gets a fact wrong right off the bat, then why should I assume they know what they're talking about? Since lignite coal is 60 million years old, then all coal wasn't made roughly 350 or so million years ago, and that alone argues strongly against that premise.

Is that why the title of the thread and the video says "Why ALMOST all coal" then?