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Icons of Evolution
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We can't know that. Science is based on inductive logic, not deductive logic. We can't even know that we've found all the fossils. Even so, we do know that some creatures are so constructed that they are unlikely to be fossilized.
We don't. All we know about are the fossils we actually find.
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If a person doesn't believe the Bible, then he wouldn't believe the BCP either -- right?
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Still, it goes on. But it really is off topic here and we needn't belabor it. The bottom line is that we need not tolerate accusations of apostasy based on our rejection of the literal inerrancy of Scripture.
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Okay.
One more question, please; then I'll drop it.
Can a person believe the BCP, but not the Bible?
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That's too bad, because it was one of the main reasons I joined here. The last time I joined a Christian forum and tried to defend my profession and coworkers from the fundamentalists, I was accused of some of the worst things a Christian can be accused of. It was constant and awful, and I vowed not to do it again.
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No, the situation is reasonably well moderated by forum staff. And we have a decent "gotcha" if we care to use it. Some of these fundamentalists have begun to show open scorn for the Nicene Creed as a statement of the Christian faith.
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You are claiming something with a large bunch of evidence supporting it might just not be true (because of something not known yet? It was not clear). If you want to refute it you need to do the work to demonstrate it is wrong. Just saying you disagree is not an argument.
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Yes, that was my point. If you are an Anglican you believe the BCP is the proper liturgy to use for divine services. It is not really about doctrine. Elizabeth took over the Church of England from her father Henry who had just created it as the established church it and was faced with a problem. This was during the Reformation period and as you know there were many different ideas floating around about what Christianity should be and there was much contention about it. What she said boiled down to "I don't care what you believe but if you are going to run a church service in my country you must use this service book." That's why it is called the Book of Common Prayer, because everybody had to use it. In the event, it was beautifully written and has the same literary quality which endears us both to the KJV. Consequently, what you think about the scriptural passages in it is up to you, but an Anglican need not take them literally (i.e. "believe the Bible.")
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I hope I'm not the only one here who sees the irony in you asking for a citation for my claim, while you don't give any for yours.
See also: The Clergy Letter Project
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We can't and we don't have to.
Accepting things because you have evidence for them is logical.
Making inferences, based on demonstrable patterns and principles is logical.
You keep referencing logic and rationality, but your usage seems to be counter to any normal accepted version... can you please how you interpret these ideas?
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If you didn't, then you wouldn't have titled the thread "Icons of Evolution", which heavily implies if not outright says that these are evolution's icons.
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