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U.S. Senator Alex Padilla Forcibly Removed and Arrested For Heckling DHS Secretary Kristi Noem During Press Briefing (VIDEO)

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I'm uncertain of where you were going with your statement. Google, last I checked, does not allow me to search another person's brain. I don't anticipate that feature for at least another few years.
 
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Au contraire, the right to be rude is afforded to everyone. There may be consequences for rudeness, but not legal ones, thanks to the 1st Amendment.
Not everything that is allowed is good for you. When you play stupid games you get stupid prizes.
 
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The Senator is not visible in that video before they start to manhandle him.
Never said he was. Sometime one can make an educated guess. Hopefully the good people that welcomed the guests offered him a chair. Again, I don’t know how this advances the argument.
 
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Not everything that is allowed is good for you. When you play stupid games you get stupid prizes.
True, though being rude does not justify assault. If you disagree, I suggest decking the next person to be rude to you and see how that works out. But you specifically stated that he does not have the right to be rude. And that's just not true.
 
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Never said he was. Sometime one can make an educated guess. Hopefully the good people that welcomed the guests offered him a chair. Again, I don’t know how this advances the argument.
So, this is all just speculation in your mind? SMH. Something constructed from what you think happened?
 
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I'm uncertain of where you were going with your statement. Google, last I checked, does not allow me to search another person's brain. I don't anticipate that feature for at least another few years.
lol no problem. I probably misunderstood you. Chomping at the bit describes someone that is overly eager, can’t even remain seated, which it seems to me that the senator was.
 
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So, this is all just speculation in your mind? SMH. Something constructed from what you think happened?
lol you got me. I committed the grave sin of critical thinking. When the camera pans to the senator he was resisting the security people and pushing forward. Whether he started from a seating or a standing position is irrelevant. Your argument changes nothing.
 
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lol no problem. I probably misunderstood you. Chomping at the bit describes someone that is overly eager, can’t even remain seated, which it seems to me that the senator was.
I'm aware of the meaning. I don't see how that makes anything worse for him though. And if he was never given a seat in the first place (which is, I believe, the case - he wasn't invited to the press conference and showed up on his own initiative), there wouldn't have even been a seat for him to remain seated in.
 
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I'm aware of the meaning. I don't see how that makes anything worse for him though. And if he was never given a seat in the first place (which is, I believe, the case - he wasn't invited to the press conference and showed up on his own initiative), there wouldn't have even been a seat for him to remain seated in.
Then your guess is as good as mine.
 
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lol you got me. I committed the grave sin of critical thinking.
Critical thinking is not a sin and you did not commit it.
When the camera pans to the senator he was resisting the security people and pushing forward. Whether he started from a seating or a standing position is irrelevant.
The manhandling of a Senator is visible, yes.
Your argument changes nothing.
I haven't made an argument, I have challenged your claim:

You can see the seating area in front of the podium at the beginning of the video. If he wasn’t seated then it would be even worse for him. Not sure how this argument helps you.
It would seem you don't even know what your are talking about.
 
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you better remind them then.

There is decorum. They don’t have the right to rudely interrupt a press conference that they are not a part off. The right to be rude is not afforded to anyone. They should set the example to the rest of the country by being civil and respectful.
Which is what I thought. His real crime was showing disrespect to an Acolyte.
 
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lol you got me. I committed the grave sin of critical thinking. When the camera pans to the senator he was resisting the security people and pushing forward. Whether he started from a seating or a standing position is irrelevant. Your argument changes nothing.
The video in post #84 starts a few seconds earlier and helps to clarify a bit. It starts with him stopped at the front of the room and preparing to speak as a secret service agent grabs him and starts to shove him backwards. His struggles after that are primarily to remain upright, not to reach the podium.
 
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The video in post #84 starts a few seconds earlier and helps to clarify a bit. It starts with him stopped at the front of the room and preparing to speak as a secret service agent grabs him and starts to shove him backwards. His struggles after that are primarily to remain upright, not to reach the podium.
I saw the video and it starts abruptly. I can’t see it well but his body seems to be moving forward a bit. Maybe a video that starts just a couple of seconds earlier might be clearer.
 
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I am sick and tired of people excusing improper and criminal behavior because someone is a Democrat member of Congress.
We could say this about the Republican party, as well
Whether it be pulling a fire alarm, threatening Supreme Court justices, taunting National Guard members, or rushing Kristi, these people should be held accountable.
I think that it is sad that some protesters take things out on those who are just trying to obey orders but I also think that it is sad for politicians, like Noem, lying about what is actually occurring. Both, should be held accountable.

Republicans need to push harder to get rid of our two-tiered system of justice.
Democrats have been trying to do that for years. Maybe the Republicans will try to help.
 
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thinking is not a sin and you did not commit it.
Thanks. I feel better.
The manhandling of a Senator is visible, yes.
The resistance of the senator is visible.
I haven't made an argument, I have challenged your claim

I did not make a claim. Merely filled a narrative based on what is more likely. Whether he was sitting or standing does not change what happened.
It would seem you don't even know what your are talking about.
You are entitled to your opinion.
 
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His resistance to being pushed around after having been escorted *into * the room.
That’s not what I see. The senator continues to push against the agents and he is escorted out of the room where the press conference is happening.
 
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That’s not what I see. The senator continues to push against the agents and he is escorted out of the room where the press conference is happening.
It's all moot. I can understand that the security team might not recognize him immediately--they were just doing the job. But there is no excuse for Noem letting it play out.
 
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Then your guess is as good as mine.
As good? No, I don't think that's correct. I honestly feel slightly embarrassed reading some of the schoolyard level posts in this thread. Unsubscribing.
 
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