Donald Trump ordered to pay E. Jean Carroll $83.3 million, will appeal verdict

[stevil]

For Trump, there are basically two people in his world: sycophants or sworn enemies. If you're not the former, you're the latter.

Just look at how he treats sycophants who turn on him, especially when they're asked to do something illegal or unethical (see Mike Pence).

-- A2SG, some prefer the highway to Trump's way....

They don't have to turn on him, they just have to refuse to do some thing (perhaps an illegal thing) for him.
They do it, they go to prison, Trump doesn't.
They don't do it, they don't go to prison, but Trump hits the social media and cameras and tells his fans not to vote for them or perhaps to attack them. His army is by crowd source. He doesn't pay them, he talks in code rather than directly saying "attack this person", he just says "this person is a RHINO, they are weak, they are a never Trumper" and his army attacks them, or won't vote for them.
Trump is safe as there is nothing illegal about saying someone is a RHINO, Trump's army goes to prison, and his victim goes into hiding.
Win, win, win for Trump.
Lose for the victim, lose for the army member that threatened or attacked the victim, lose for the democracy of the country. But Trump wins

 

[A2SG]

They don't have to turn on him, they just have to refuse to do some thing (perhaps an illegal thing) for him.

For Trump, it's the same thing.

They do it, they go to prison, Trump doesn't.
They don't do it, they don't go to prison, but Trump hits the social media and cameras and tells his fans not to vote for them or perhaps to attack them. His army is by crowd source. He doesn't pay them, he talks in code rather than directly saying "attack this person", he just says "this person is a RHINO, they are weak, they are a never Trumper" and his army attacks them, or won't vote for them.
Trump is safe as there is nothing illegal about saying someone is a RHINO, Trump's army goes to prison, and his victim goes into hiding.
Win, win, win for Trump.
Lose for the victim, lose for the army member that threatened or attacked the victim, lose for the democracy of the country. But Trump wins

Too bad James Gandolfini isn't around anymore to play Trump in a movie. Playing Tony Soprano would have been great prep for the role.

-- A2SG, not sure if he'd be able to get the rights for that Journey song, though....

 

[Ana the Ist]

You do realize that Habba backed off of this claim very quickly?

I do...another poster pointed it out. Ty.

 

[7thKeeper]

I do...another poster pointed it out. Ty.

Ok, good. But dang that was a short lived character attack by Habba. Did that survive even 24 hours?

 

[DaisyDay]

You do realize that Habba backed off of this claim very quickly?

It was kinda funny that Habba used the NYPost as her source since the NYPost quoted Habba as one of its sources.

 

[7thKeeper]

It was kinda funny that Habba used the NYPost as her source since the NYPost quoted Habba as one of its sources.

Hmm, would this count as a woozle effect?

 

[DaisyDay]

Hmm, would this count as a woozle effect?

No, it might still become so, from my experience, probably will do so, but right now it's just a circular reference (I don't believe that a mysterious stranger who works at the old law firm leaked this).

 

[7thKeeper]

And it seems that Habba has lost her job judging by what Trump has said. I wonder if he manages to get 83+ million gathered and how easily so he can even attempt to go back to court...

 

[DaisyDay]

And it seems that Habba has lost her job judging by what Trump has said. I wonder if he manages to get 83+ million gathered and how easily so he can even attempt to go back to court...

I believe that he would have to place the money or a bond as a condition of appealing. IOW, he would have to put the amount in escrow before the New York Court of Appeals.

 

[perplexed]

Do Trumpers think that the evil deep state made sure Trump got the Habba the Horrible lawyer to defend him.

 

[essentialsaltes]

In New York on Thursday, a federal judge upheld the E. Jean Carroll defamation verdict and $83 million damages award, denying Donald Trump’s motion for a new trial.

[this is separate from the appeal.]

 

[Bradskii]

In New York on Thursday, a federal judge upheld the E. Jean Carroll defamation verdict and $83 million damages award, denying Donald Trump’s motion for a new trial.

[this is separate from the appeal.]

Doesn't say much about the prospects of the appeal succeeding if the verdict has been upheld. Seems to be a difference without a difference.

 

[DaisyDay]

Doesn't say much about the prospects of the appeal succeeding if the verdict has been upheld. Seems to be a difference without a difference.

The appeal to lower the final amount granted may be partially successful.

 

[essentialsaltes]

In New York on Thursday, a federal judge upheld the E. Jean Carroll defamation verdict and $83 million damages award, denying Donald Trump’s motion for a new trial.

[this is separate from the appeal.]

Appeals court rejects Trump's attempt to overturn E. Jean Carroll verdict​

The Second U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals decided "Trump has not demonstrated that the district court erred in any of the challenged rulings" and "has not carried his burden to show that any claimed error or combination of claimed errors affected his substantial rights as required to warrant a new trial."

Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung, in a statement, said the Carroll case "will continue to be appealed."

 

[essentialsaltes]

Appeals court rejects Trump's bid to challenge $5 million E. Jean Carroll judgment [This is separate from the $83 million judgment.]​

Trump had sought a hearing before the full U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit after a three-judge panel declined to overturn the judgment.

A divided court left intact the decision upholding the jury's damage award.

The appellate court denial of an en banc hearing came without explanation, as is common.

In a concurring opinion, three judges said they found "no manifest error by the district court" that would warrant additional review.

 

[NxNW]

Every guilty verdict is just further proof of Trump's innocence.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Every guilty verdict is just further proof of Trump's innocence.

Then you are an anarchist if you have no confidence in the rule of law and court system.

But you are not a lone since it has all now been contaminated since Citizens United.

 

[rambot]

But Democrats uses Lawfare.


In the words of Balki Bartokamus....Get out of the city.

 

[FaithT]

Every guilty verdict is just further proof of Trump's innocence.

Whaaaaat? The old coot needs to just give up.

 

[DaisyDay]

Every guilty verdict is just further proof of Trump's innocence.

Whaaaaat? The old coot needs to just give up.

Then you are an anarchist if you have no confidence in the rule of law and court system.

But you are not a lone since it has all now been contaminated since Citizens United.

Does no one understand irony?