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People who die as infants go to Heaven, right? Is there a good argument to the contrary?

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The popular answer nowadays is yes.

I want to say yes, I believe that, but I am not so sure. Historically it's been more of a debate.

Salvation isn't based on your parents. So if a child w/ Christian parents isn't necessarily going to be saved, it makes sense to believe that not all infants who pass away as infants will be saved either. Perhaps it is a reminder it's not based on the parents.

I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, I don't want to be harsh, I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, I don't think it's a fault of the parents, & I don't agree they're all doomed, & I am quite confident many are saved, but it's also a reality Christian parents have children who don't become Christians.
 
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Even without providing scripture I feel confident in stating that I believe that all people who die as infants are in Heaven.

Is there any good argument to the contrary? Thanks in advance!
Infants that die need salvation , need a savior and 1 John 2:2 says they have one because Jesus "is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and NOT for our sins alone but for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD" -- infants don't make any decision to reject the gospel - so by definition they have a Savior that they have not rejected -- and He saves them.

And "no" -- there is no such thing as "limbo" :)
 
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Is there any good argument to the contrary?
It cannot be nailed down in Scripture --we just do not know.
Paul seems to offer one passage to the contrary [1 Corinthians 7:14], but it is not definitive.
 
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I think we're all pretty certain that dead infants go to Heaven, which leads our discussion to this...

 
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Even without providing scripture I feel confident in stating that I believe that all people who die as infants are in Heaven.

Is there any good argument to the contrary? Thanks in advance!
Infants who are Baptized and afterwards die before they are of the age of reason to commit personal sin certainly go straight to Heaven.
 
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Infants who are Baptized and afterwards die before they are of the age of reason to commit personal sin certainly go straight to Heaven.
Some version of this has long been generally accepted by Christians.
 
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Children do not need to be baptized, they just need to be birthed or born into the world.
Yes, that is a reletively new concept, gaining acceptance among a small group.
 
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Even without providing scripture I feel confident in stating that I believe that all people who die as infants are in Heaven.

I believe so personally, but you are correct that there is no definite scriptural proof regarding this, but that being said we should baptize them immediately in order to ensure they are protected in the Church; baptism will also protect them from demonic possession, and if done in a traditional liturgical church (at least, in the Orthodox and Catholic churches), will remove from them any demons that might have tried to sneak in, since demons do not spare children, and for this reason all Orthodox and Catholic baptisms include a prayer of exorcism (the Roman Catholics call it a “minor exorcism” to contrast it from the more intense prayers that are done in the case of someone actually confirmed to have become possessed; the Eastern Orthodox likewise have different prayers for such a case, which interestingly enough are attributed to St. Basil the Great and St. John Chrysostom, who compiled the two most commonly used Eastern Orthodox Divine Liturgies.

Baptizing infants also fulfills our obligation to permit the little children to come to Christ.

The Orthodox go further than most in respect of this, in that we baptize, chrismate (confirm) and give the first communion to infants on the same occasion. There is no one in the Orthodox Church who has been baptized without being chrismated, nor would any child be prevented from partaking of the Eucharist (since we believe that infants and young children are noetically aware of the Eucharist being the Body and Blood of our Lord, and so the practice is entirely compliant with 1 Corinthians 11:27-32; if it were not, we would have noticed it in the nineteen centuries we have been doing it this way).
 
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Yes, that is a reletively new concept, gaining acceptance among a small group.

It was unknown before the 16th century.

Our beloved friend @Ain't Zwinglian has splendidly argued for the baptism of infants in many threads throughout the forum.
 
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Matthew 18:3: “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

For this reason I believe young children enter Heaven. The trust and faith of children coupled with the innocence of not knowing much. At the judgement there isn't anything/much to hold accountable. Certainly, no rejection of Christ, no sin on their own account with babies, no ill will, no pride, no lies.

That being said, I don't know the answer. I know whatever God the Father does will be just and Good. He will have a solution.
 
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What we do see in scripture is that God's merciful judgment takes ignorance into strong consideration.

"And should not I pity Nineveh, that great city, in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know their right hand from their left..." — Jonah 4:11

Here, God justifies His mercy on the Ninevites not by their righteousness, but by their lack of understanding. He is patient with them because they don't know better. The implication is that moral ignorance, not willful rebellion, was a key reason for God’s mercy.

“Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” --Luke 23:34

Jesus prays this on the cross for His executioners. Again, ignorance—“they know not what they do”—is cited as a reason for forgiveness. Jesus appeals to the Father's mercy on the grounds of their lack of understanding.

“And that servant who knew his master’s will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating. But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating.” -- Luke 12:47–48

This parable clearly illustrates graduated responsibility: the more knowledge you have, the more accountable you are. Those in ignorance are still responsible—but less severely judged. (This is also a passage of great caution for those of us who think we know what God wants from us.)

"Jesus said to them, ‘If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains.’" -- John 9:41

If they truly lacked knowledge or understanding (spiritual blindness not by choice), they wouldn’t be held fully accountable. Since they claim to know, they’re morally responsible for rejecting the truth. When Jesus says, “If you were blind, you would have no guilt,” He’s affirming that true ignorance can mitigate culpability.

Paul introduces the same principle—that God judges based on what people know—in Romans 1, but he frames it negatively to highlight human guilt and the fairness of divine judgment.

Romans 1:19, 20 is the negative mirror image of the same moral principle: that God judges according to what people know. But here, Paul is not talking about those who are ignorant. Instead, he condemns those who had enough knowledge of God to respond rightly—but chose not to.

"For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse." -- Romans 1:19, 20.

Paul is saying that God has made certain truths universally visible in creation, everyone knows—at least at a basic, intuitive level—about God’s power and divine nature, but they refused to acknowledge Him, and thus they are without excuse. The implication is certainly that those who are profoundly ignorant do have an excuse.

The biblical principle illustrated in these passages that God considers ignorance and understanding in judgment strongly supports the view that God is merciful to infants who die. Infants do not yet know "their right hand from their left" (Jonah 4:11), nor can they understand God’s will or even recognize His existence from creation. Infants are profoundly ignorant. They cannot knowingly reject God.
 
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