Trump administration bars Harvard from enrolling international students

[Aryeh Jay]

The Covid vaccine is a bad example. It was a failure.

Please don't insult President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed.

 

[Valletta]

Isn't that the sort of thing that you elected Trump to do? Own the libs?

There are two separate issues here. One is discrimination by the left at Harvard and other universities. The second is the flooding our our country by the Biden administration with millions who were not properly vetted. The Supreme Court was able to at least slow the discrimination against Americans of Asian ancestry at Harvard, but there is a still a lot of racism practiced. The antisemitism needs to be stopped, there is the problem of radical political leaders preaching violence ("Free, free, Palestine") and sadly the universities have very much followed. So too the other racist policies need to be halted, black-only dorms and meeting spaces and graduations, but for the moment Jews should be able to walk the universities and worship without threats of violence and be safe in our nation's capitol. As to not being properly vetted, Trump wants to know crimes committed by aliens who attend Harvard, Trump has emphasized he will go after the violent ones first. Harvard could and should cooperate, by not cooperating they make it more dangerous for the public.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Going after a prestigious institution best known for its law school? This'll be fun!

Alumni Assemble.

 

[RileyG]

Isn't that the sort of thing that you elected Trump to do? Own the libs?

No. I ONLY voted for him because I didn't want Harris to be POTUS, BUT THAT is off topic. I made myself abundantly clear. Carry on.

 

[wing2000]

If they're receiving government money/kickbacks/tax breaks, then to a degree... yes.

For the same reason I don't like the idea of public schools going rogue and not having at least a somewhat centralized basis of accreditation or certain universal standards.

To a degree? One example of "going roque" at the university level?

 

[camille70]

Same antisemitism. The murderer who killed that young Jewish couple was going right along in the same spirit with the "Free, free, Palestine." Did you know in the old days Harvard has a quota on Jews?

Initially Harvard did not allow anyone who was not "English born." Did you know in the old days Havard had a total ban against African Americans? Jewish students gained admission rights before African Americans. Did you also know that the United States once turned away an entire ship full of Jewish refugees, many of whom would go on to suffer at the hands of Nazi's?

I don't think the historical treatment of people is the best argument since so many are clearly thrilled with the banning and blocking of DEI meant to address past injustices and include people from all groups including those with a Jewish background.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Did you also know that the United States once turned away an entire ship full of Jewish refugees, many of whom would go on to suffer at the hands of Nazi's?

Thanks, and if anyone bothers to look up the SS Saint Lewis, they will point out it was a Democrat administration that did it.

 

[camille70]

If they're receiving government money/kickbacks/tax breaks, then to a degree... yes.

For the same reason I don't like the idea of public schools going rogue and not having at least a somewhat centralized basis of accreditation or certain universal standards.


It would seem as if people tend to have a different view on the topic between HS and College.


If the "get in-line with the social policies of this administration, or else risk losing funding" is the kind of threat that people object to, I wonder how they felt about this:

U.S. Schools Warned Over Transgender Bathroom Access

Obama Administration says school districts must not discriminate

time.com

The guidance signed by Justice and Education officials, while not a legal decree, implicitly threatens noncompliant schools with lawsuits or the withdrawal of federal funding.

So you would have been perfectly ok with a dem president pulling accreditation from a school like Liberty University for not supporting abortion or LGBT rights?

There are two separate issues here. One is discrimination by the left at Harvard and other universities. The second is the flooding our our country by the Biden administration with millions who were not properly vetted. The Supreme Court was able to at least slow the discrimination against Americans of Asian ancestry at Harvard, but there is a still a lot of racism practiced. The antisemitism needs to be stopped, there is the problem of radical political leaders preaching violence ("Free, free, Palestine") and sadly the universities have very much followed. So too the other racist policies need to be halted, black-only dorms and meeting spaces and graduations, but for the moment Jews should be able to walk the universities and worship without threats of violence and be safe in our nation's capitol. As to not being properly vetted, Trump wants to know crimes committed by aliens who attend Harvard, Trump has emphasized he will go after the violent ones first. Harvard could and should cooperate, by not cooperating they make it more dangerous for the public.

Since Jewish Students are under attack and don't feel safe would you be opposed to Jewish only dorms or meeting places?

 

[ralliann]

That is up to the school to deal with, not the federal government. It is also not up to the government to decide they get to punish the school for not policing things"correctly".

Harvard does not decide foreign policy on visas! Geesh.

 

[Valletta]

So you would have been perfectly ok with a dem president pulling accreditation from a school like Liberty University for not supporting abortion or LGBT rights?

Since Jewish Students are under attack and don't feel safe would you be opposed to Jewish only dorms or meeting places?

Of course. If any university advocated violence and genocide against LBTQ-believing people or any group I would use every legal power to stop them. Anyone can meet wherever they want, banning someone based on race or belief is wrong. I am strongly against people being categorized or denied access to anything based on race or religious belief, if there had been major incidents I could see it as a temporary security situation.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Harvard does not decide foreign policy on visas! Geesh.

The claim was about "on campus anti-semitism" and whether it was being policed correctly. That is not a "foreign policy issue".

 

[Belk]

Harvard does not decide foreign policy on visas! Geesh.

No one claims they did. Go beat up that straw man some place else.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Since Jewish Students are under attack and don't feel safe would you be opposed to Jewish only dorms or meeting places?

Hmmm…. The Jewish quarters. Sounds vaguely familiar.

 

[Bradskii]

"Free, free, Palestine"...

We were going out last night and my wife asked if I thought she should wear her blue dress or her red one. I said the red one. And she said 'So, you don't like the blue one!'

I'm not sure that you'll understand that.

 

[perplexed]

But it's OK to be antisemitic about Jews who don't agree with our Israeli policy.

Just the ones that are not careful with their space lasers.

 

[ralliann]

No one claims they did. Go beat up that straw man some place else.

The thread claims it. Not only should international students visa's be revoked, they should lose government funding as well.

 

[Belk]

The thread claims it.

No, it does not.

Not only should international students visa's be revoked, they should lose government funding as well.

Your opinion is noted.

 

[ralliann]

No, it does not.

Yes it does. see how easy it is?

 

[ralliann]

And anti-semitism includes anything critical of our policy toward Israel. But it's OK to be antisemitic about Jews who don't agree with our Israeli policy.

You are making Israeli Jew's who had hostages taken, babies, and families brutally murdered, equal to Jew's not in Israel? No they are not equal. How ridiculous. Israeli's have their lives on the line, and their children's lives on the line. I don't care what Jew's say when it is not their lives on the line as a jew.

 

[BCP1928]

You are making Israeli Jew's who had hostages taken, babies, and families brutally murdered, equal to Jew's not in Israel? No they are not equal. How ridiculous. Israeli's have their lives on the line, and their children's lives on the line.

Not because they Jews, but because they are Israelis.

I don't care what Jew's say when it is not their lives on the line as a jew.

Sound's like you are the one dividing Jews: It's antisemitism to discriminate against Zionist Jews, but not other Jews. They are, according to our government, not "real" Jews and deserve no consideration as such.