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Trump accepts 400 million dollar bribe.

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Should Christians post things that are untrue? Is it not bearing false witness?
As a general rule, no, but I would have to see a specific example. Some things that have been posted in this thread that are not true were not posted by people who claim to be Christians
 
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As a general rule, no, but I would have to see a specific example. Some things that have been posted in this thread that are not true were not posted by people who claim to be Christians

The thread title says that Trump "accepted $400 million bribe". I understand that the jet from Qatar is being donated to the U.S. Air Force. Perhaps the OP should update their title in order that it is truthful.
 
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Pentagon accepts luxury jet from Qatar to use as Air Force One

"The secretary of defense has accepted a Boeing 747 from Qatar in accordance with all federal rules and regulations," Sean Parnell, chief Pentagon spokesman, said in a statement.
I can’t wait to see the contract bids to bring this up to AF1 standards. And of course after we pay for him to have a new luxury ride it will be “parked” at the Trump Presidential Library.

”Sources familiar with the proposed arrangement told ABC News that the DOD plans to make the aircraft available for Trump's use while Boeing continues with building the replacement 747s. Shortly before Trump leaves office, the ownership of the plane will be transferred to the Donald J. Trump Presidential Library Foundation, according to the sources.”
 
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I can’t wait to see the contract bids to bring this up to AF1 standards.
This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It's not like Boeing are building the new Air Force One from scratch. The plane(s) already exists. From here: https://simpleflying.com/boeing-vc-25b-new-air-force-one-guide/

'The two airframes selected for the program have never flown for a commercial airline. They were initially built for Transaero, a Russian airline, which filed for bankruptcy before the aircraft could be delivered, leading to the jumbo jets being stored in California. As the latest models with no significant service history, they became the ideal proposal when the US Air Force came looking for a replacement for its aging 747-200s.'

And from here: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/08/business/boeing-trump-air-force-one

'The challenge is not the basic jet, but what it takes to turn a run-of-the-mill Boeing 747 into the flying communications and command post fit for the president of the United States, said Richard Aboulafia, managing director at AeroDynamic Advisory, an aerospace consulting firm. They are supposed to be able to fly and protect its occupants from missile attack or even the shock waves of a nuclear blast.

“You can have a jet anytime,” he said. “But it takes a great deal of work to have encrypted communications and manage the military and federal government from anywhere around the world in any circumstance.”

So we have a couple of planes already being set up for Air Force One and despite delays because of the strict security considerations it's safe to say that the work is somewhat progressed. Against that we have a flying luxury hotel which will need to be completely gutted even before any work can be started to get it up to the point where it can be used as a flying command post.

And if it is converted, it will have to be significantly decommissioned before it gets anywhere near Trump and his library. I'm sure he thinks he's going to fly around the world as president, and as a private citizen in the plane just as it looks now.
 
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What is with this dictator talk?
Before his election, Trump expressed that he would be a dictator on day one. Since his inauguration, he has been working diligently to make that a reality. And what's really alarming, is that he has had many successes.

Some people would say we are already a dictatorship, that we became a dictatorship back in August when the supreme court ruled that a President could do as he pleased without consequences, provided it was part of the office. So? Disband congress and the supreme court in the name of national defense? Yeap. A President can now do that. Assassinate his opponent in the name of national defense? Yeap, the President can now do that without consequences.
 
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Yes. by a split hair: 49.8% to 48.3%. Like I said, half of Americans voted against him. Why should they be blamed?
I don't care if he won by one vote, he still won.
I couldn't care less about who is blamed
 
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Before his election, Trump expressed that he would be a dictator on day one. Since his inauguration, he has been working diligently to make that a reality. And what's really alarming, is that he has had many successes.

Some people would say we are already a dictatorship, that we became a dictatorship back in August when the supreme court ruled that a President could do as he pleased without consequences, provided it was part of the office. So? Disband congress and the supreme court in the name of national defense? Yeap. A President can now do that. Assassinate his opponent in the name of national defense? Yeap, the President can now do that without consequences.
That's ridiculous. He can't even deport gang members that have been declared part of a terrorists group without hearings.
No way he can disband congress or the Supreme Court and he can't kill his political opponents
 
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I love how trump and doge have decided that americans don't need important things like medicaid and other things, but trump can have a big parade and plane, here is an idea, take the plane and then sell it for the deficit that it's so important to cut esential programs...oh sorry I mean for huge tax cuts and raise the deficit.
 
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I don't care if he won by one vote, he still won.
I couldn't care less about who is blamed

The margin of victory has nothing to do with bribe or not a bribe. (And bribe or not, taking the gift itself is illegal.)
 
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The margin of victory has nothing to do with bribe or not a bribe. (And bribe or not, taking the gift itself is illegal.)

How is it illegal for the president to accept a gift to our Air Force?
 
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How is it illegal for the president to accept a gift to our Air Force?
When the USAF has no use for it and it will just sit on a tarmac until it can be transferred to a foundation controlled by Trump for his personal use. The value of each trip he takes as former president on it will exceed the legal limit for gifts from foreign kings.
 
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When the USAF has no use for it and it will just sit on a tarmac until it can be transferred to a foundation controlled by Trump for his personal use. The value of each trip he takes as former president on it will exceed the legal limit for gifts from foreign kings.

So the Air Force is going to work on it and gift it to Trump?
 
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Not according to Trump.
According to Trump, he was going to release his tax returns after he won the 2016 Presidential Election.
So, you might be able to see how someone might choose to doubt his veracity.
 
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Before his election, Trump expressed that he would be a dictator on day one. Since his inauguration, he has been working diligently to make that a reality. And what's really alarming, is that he has had many successes.

Some people would say we are already a dictatorship, that we became a dictatorship back in August when the supreme court ruled that a President could do as he pleased without consequences, provided it was part of the office. So? Disband congress and the supreme court in the name of national defense? Yeap. A President can now do that. Assassinate his opponent in the name of national defense? Yeap, the President can now do that without consequences.
This is absurd. Someone has obviously been brainwashed by the MSM. Trump is no dictator if he were he wouldn’t have to constantly be fighting in court just to maintain the power of the Presidency given him by the constitution. A dictator wouldn’t need Congress to pass the bills he wants for the American people. Some liberals have no idea what a real dictatorship actually is. We just got out from under four years of a puppet government in which we don’t know as of yet who was actually running the government and signing bills and pardons. Joe was not able to function as a president due to his mental state yet some unelected person or persons steered the ship. It is sad at the amount of miss information put out by the MSM and I’d even sadder at the amount of people that actually believe this stuff. Trump is no dictator!
 
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This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It's not like Boeing are building the new Air Force One from scratch. The plane(s) already exists. From here: https://simpleflying.com/boeing-vc-25b-new-air-force-one-guide/

'The two airframes selected for the program have never flown for a commercial airline. They were initially built for Transaero, a Russian airline, which filed for bankruptcy before the aircraft could be delivered, leading to the jumbo jets being stored in California. As the latest models with no significant service history, they became the ideal proposal when the US Air Force came looking for a replacement for its aging 747-200s.'

And from here: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/08/business/boeing-trump-air-force-one

'The challenge is not the basic jet, but what it takes to turn a run-of-the-mill Boeing 747 into the flying communications and command post fit for the president of the United States, said Richard Aboulafia, managing director at AeroDynamic Advisory, an aerospace consulting firm. They are supposed to be able to fly and protect its occupants from missile attack or even the shock waves of a nuclear blast.

“You can have a jet anytime,” he said. “But it takes a great deal of work to have encrypted communications and manage the military and federal government from anywhere around the world in any circumstance.”

So we have a couple of planes already being set up for Air Force One and despite delays because of the strict security considerations it's safe to say that the work is somewhat progressed. Against that we have a flying luxury hotel which will need to be completely gutted even before any work can be started to get it up to the point where it can be used as a flying command post.

And if it is converted, it will have to be significantly decommissioned before it gets anywhere near Trump and his library. I'm sure he thinks he's going to fly around the world as president, and as a private citizen in the plane just as it looks now.

Yes, the Qataris were looking to dump the 747. They could not sell it as nobody is interested in a customized 747-800 that can't be easily converted to other uses. Besides, no passenger or cargo carrier wants to fly such a costly aircraft when more efficient planes are available.

The USAF has estimated it will cost (at least) one billion dollars to convert the aircraft to Air Force One standards.

There's no logical reason to accept this plane.

Trump is doing this to placate his own vanity. He can't stand to fly in the dated Air Force One aircraft.
 
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