Will Elon Musk ever land on Mars ?

[Apple Sky]

Not to mention that the sun moving backwards - over 3000 years ago - was clearly a miracle from God.

I think a bit of logic is needed here ?????

 

[Apple Sky]

Which has nothing at all to do with your statement that "they" cannot believe the earth is a globe and also believe Genesis 1.

To believe in a globe you must also believe in space as scientist say it is today, you can't have it both ways.

 

[Strong in Him]

To believe in a globe you must also believe in space as scientist say it is today, you can't have it both ways.

In Bible times they had no idea what scientists would say 4,000 or so years later.

 

[Strong in Him]

I think a bit of logic is needed here ?????

Well try using some then.

It is impossible for the sun - naturally - to move backwards in the sky. It could only have done so because God intervened and did a miracle.
The text does not say that this added an extra few minutes, or hour, to the day. So a 24 hour sun is possible, as observed recently at Antarctica.

Actually, if you look up 2 Kings 20:8-10 it does not say "the sun went backwards" at all. Isaiah asked the king if he wanted God to make the shadow go forwards or backwards. Hezekiah replied that it should go backwards because that would be a greater miracle.

So another statement on your "200 verses that prove flat earth" chart is wrong.

 

[Apple Sky]

In Bible times they had no idea what scientists would say 4,000 or so years later.

God's words will never change.

 

[Apple Sky]

Well try using some then.

It is impossible for the sun - naturally - to move backwards in the sky. It could only have done so because God intervened and did a miracle.
The text does not say that this added an extra few minutes, or hour, to the day. So a 24 hour sun is possible, as observed recently at Antarctica.

Actually, if you look up 2 Kings 20:8-10 it does not say "the sun went backwards" at all. Isaiah asked the king if he wanted God to make the shadow go forwards or backwards. Hezekiah replied that it should go backwards because that would be a greater miracle.

So another statement on your "200 verses that prove flat earth" chart is wrong.

What about when God stopped the sun for Joshua for a whole day ?

 

[Strong in Him]

God's words will never change.

Clearly they do - as translations from the Hebrew into Latin, the English show.

What will never change is the fact that God created the universe - i.e. everything on earth, in the sky, the solar system etc etc.
THAT is the whole message of Genesis 1.

 

[prodromos]

God's words will never change.

The Jews were expecting a Messiah who would free them from the Roman conquerors. God’s word hadn't changed, but their understanding of His words was wrong. What makes you any different?

 

[prodromos]

What about when God stopped the sun for Joshua for a whole day ?

What about it? God is sovereign over all creation including time. If God puts a pause on time in a local area then the sun will stop moving for them regardless of the shape of the earth.

 

[Strong in Him]

What about when God stopped the sun for Joshua for a whole day ?

What about it?
It was another miracle from God and had nothing to do with the miracle of 2 Kings 20 where Hezekiah asked that a shadow should be made to go backwards. The shadow went back 10 steps, as requested.
We are not told that this made the day longer, that the shadow speeded up later so that the hours of daylight were the same, or anything of the kind.

Hezekiah wanted a sign that God's promise to him would come true. Isaiah said "do you want the shadow to go forwards or backwards?" and Hezekiah replied, "it would be easy to make it go forwards; let it go backwards".

Making a shadow go backwards was clearly a miracle.
The text says nothing about the sun moving, or the hours of daylight being longer as a result. But the statement on that "200 verses" chart of yours says "the sun went backwards", and that is supposed to "prove" that the earth is flat.

 

[Apple Sky]

The Jews were expecting a Messiah who would free them from the Roman conquerors. God’s word hadn't changed, but their understanding of His words was wrong. What makes you any different?

John 5:46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. 47. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

 

[Apple Sky]

If God puts a pause on time in a local area then the sun will stop moving for them regardless of the shape of the earth.

God tells us that he stopped the sun so he must have stopped it travelling it's circuit.

 

[trophy33]

God tells us that...

Nope. Error right there.

 

[Apple Sky]

Making a shadow go backwards was clearly a miracle.
The text says nothing about the sun moving, or the hours of daylight being longer as a result. But the statement on that "200 verses" chart of yours says "the sun went backwards", and that is supposed to "prove" that the earth is flat.

What about the other verses I suppose your going to dispute all those too ? Unbelievable

 

[Strong in Him]

What about the other verses I suppose your going to dispute all those too ? Unbelievable

No, I've quoted some of them and asked what they have to do with the earth being flat. You haven't answered these.
Psalm 46:10, for example, "Be still and know that I am God"; where does that even mention the shape of the earth? Yet it has been listed on a "200 Flat Earth verses" chart.

What is unbelievable is that, yet again, you have posted something which you have not fully looked at/watched/investigated. Then when some of us DO look at it and show you that you are wrong, you turn it back on us.

What you needed to say was, "sorry, I didn't look carefully at that chart before I posted it. You're right; some of these make no sense."

 

[David Lamb]

Try Mount Zion in the dead center of earth ( the Navel of the earth) up in the Arctic circle.

Have you got a bible verse for Mount Zion being in the dead center of earth , or that the dead center of earth is in the Arctic Circle? You quote something about the "habitation of Shem." You didn't say where it came from, but I can't find it in the bible. There are 17 verses that mention Shem, but none of them refers to his slip (whatever that is) being "inscribed with the middle of the earth, and this portion became the inheritance of his descendants unto all eternity."

On a different matter entirely, I hope you are feeling a bit better today.

 

[Apple Sky]

On a different matter entirely, I hope you are feeling a bit better today.

Oh thank you david, I'm feeling a lot better today

Have you got a bible verse for Mount Zion being in the dead center of earth , or that the dead center of earth is in the Arctic Circle? You quote something about the "habitation of Shem." You didn't say where it came from, but I can't find it in the bible. There are 17 verses that mention Shem, but none of them refers to his slip (whatever that is) being "inscribed with the middle of the earth, and this portion became the inheritance of his descendants unto all eternity."

I quoted that from the 'Legend of the Jews' I know what you said, but I couldn't help my self as there is so much truth in the book.

 

[David Lamb]

Oh thank you david, I'm feeling a lot better today

That's really good to know. I thank God, and trust that He will continue to strengthen and uphold you.

I quoted that from the 'Legend of the Jews' I know what you said, but I couldn't help my self as there is so much truth in the book.

Thanks for that. I have not hears of "Legend of the Jews," so I have no idea how reliable or otherwise it is. I just know that the bible says nothing about Shem's slip.

 

[Apple Sky]

That's really good to know. I thank God, and trust that He will continue to strengthen and uphold you.

Oh thank you David.

Thanks for that. I have not hears of "Legend of the Jews," so I have no idea how reliable or otherwise it is. I just know that the bible says nothing about Shem's slip.

I know what you think about 'The legend of the Jews' but I reckon there are many truths in the book.

 

[David Lamb]

Oh thank you David.



I know what you think about 'The legend of the Jews' but I reckon there are many truths in the book.

Thanks. I don't claim to know anything about 'The legend of the Jews', so I don't think you can know what I think about it.