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President Trump Signs Executive Order to Defund NPR and PBS

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No one would be concerned if they were still just reaching like Mr. Rogers or simply showing arts programs. Nobody would care. I grew up with Mr. Rogers and Sesame Street. Today's Sesame Street isn't mine I grew up with.
You do realize the right wing party of the time was trying to kill funding for PBS when you were watching it?
 
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Hardened gang members who have committed violent crimes are not political prisoners. Non-violent American citizens who are imprisoned for their political beliefs, whether they prayed or were just in the wrong place or because they supported Trump but are imprisoned are the real political prisoners. I just don't understand the affinity from the left to sympathize with human traffickers and wife beaters and violent gang members.
The insurrectionists were convicted I'm fair trials with tons of video evidence and their own social media bragging.
It is estimated that up to 90% of the prisoners kidnapped and sent to a Salvadoran prison with no due process have clean records.
The allegation that the insurrectionists were praying could only be believed by someone who hadn't darkened a church door in decades and has no concept of what prayer is.
 
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Trump, the defendant, and the leading candidate for president, was ordered by a judge not to speak out and defend himself? What kind of government gags the defendant?
Who are you trying to convince? Yourself? It must be. Because you surely must know exactly what he was prevented from saying. And why. And so does everyone else. Why parrot some right wing nonsense when we all know it's nonsense? It makes no sense to do so.

Whoever told you that was either lying to you or was completely ignorant of the matter. I'll let you be the judge on which it is more likely to be.
 
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They have continued pushing false narratives, especially about the Trump Administration. Just this week, NPR, citing two anonymous sources, reported that two DOGE workers gained accounts on classified networks, used by the National Security Administration and the Department of Energy, and accessed nuclear secrets.
“This reporting is false. No DOGE personnel have accessed these NNSA systems. The two DOGE individuals in question worked within the agency for several days and departed DOE in February,” a Department of Energy spokesperson told NPR.

There is no reason for the U.S. taxpayer to fund such biased "news" networks.

Another executive order by the sitting president will be overturned with an executive order on January 20, 2029.
 
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They have continued pushing false narratives, especially about the Trump Administration. Just this week, NPR, citing two anonymous sources, reported that two DOGE workers gained accounts on classified networks, used by the National Security Administration and the Department of Energy, and accessed nuclear secrets.
“This reporting is false. No DOGE personnel have accessed these NNSA systems. The two DOGE individuals in question worked within the agency for several days and departed DOE in February,” a Department of Energy spokesperson told NPR.

There is no reason for the U.S. taxpayer to fund such biased "news" networks.
I love how freedom of speech is so sacrosanct.
To be fair we are allowed to lie about that organization and say they are "biased" implying the bias is so bad that it is an organization of ill repute.

Which is incorrect.


But the American right is far too fragile to handle anything; they've become as fragile as Trump to any criticism of the man.

It so....not good.
 
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I love how freedom of speech is so sacrosanct.
To be fair we are allowed to lie about that organization and say they are "biased" implying the bias is so bad that it is an organization of ill repute.

Which is incorrect.


But the American right is far too fragile to handle anything; they've become as fragile as Trump to any criticism of the man.

It so....not good.
This is not about freedom of speech, it is about forcing taxpayers to pay for the Democratic Party. The networks have freedom of speech and if you want them then contribute from your own pocket.
 
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By all means stamp out anything that could educate.

Keep people unable to distinguish lies from truth.
No one is stamping out anything, people are tired of authoritarians who think they should force the people to pay for the Democratic Party.
 
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Who are you trying to convince? Yourself? It must be. Because you surely must know exactly what he was prevented from saying. And why. And so does everyone else. Why parrot some right wing nonsense when we all know it's nonsense? It makes no sense to do so.

Whoever told you that was either lying to you or was completely ignorant of the matter. I'll let you be the judge on which it is more likely to be.
Trump's right to freedom of speech was violated by the judge.
 
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No one is stamping out anything, people are tired of authoritarians who think they should force the people to pay for the Democratic Party.
Then the people can lobby their congress person as the constitution stipulates. You know, the body that by law holds thew power of the purse.
 
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No one is stamping out anything, people are tired of authoritarians who think they should force the people to pay for the Democratic Party.
PBS/NPR is not part of the Democratic Party.
 
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Trump's right to freedom of speech was violated by the judge.
You know, or at least should know what restrictions there are on talking about a case outside of the courtroom. Surely it's common knowledge. So someone must be feeding you this bulldust. Where are you getting it from? Who is lying to you? Just tell us the source. Tell us what web page or what Twitter account or what blog you are getting this patently ludicrous nonsense from.

Notwithstanding that you are complaining about freedom of speech in a thread you yourself have started about the government defunding PBS because they don't like what they broadcast. It's so beyond ironic that we need a new name for it.
 
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This is not about freedom of speech, it is about forcing taxpayers to pay for the Democratic Party. The networks have freedom of speech and if you want them then contribute from your own pocket.
According to Wikipedia:

In 2010, NPR revenues totaled $180 million, with the bulk of revenues coming from programming fees, grants from foundations or business entities, contributions and sponsorships. According to the 2009 financial statement, about 50% of NPR revenues come from the fees it charges member stations for programming and distribution charges. Typically, NPR member stations receive funds through on-air pledge drives, corporate underwriting, state and local governments, educational institutions, and the federally funded Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB). In 2009, member stations derived 6% of their revenue from federal, state and local government funding, 10% of their revenue from CPB grants, and 14% of their revenue from universities. NPR receives a small number of competitive grants from CPB and federal agencies like the Department of Education and the Department of Commerce. This funding amounts to less than 1% of revenues.

Emphasis added.

The total federal appropriation for the entire Corporation for Public Broadcasting is $525 million, and the distribution of those funds are specified by statute:

By statute, more than 70% of CPB's annual federal appropriation goes directly to more than 1,500 local public media stations, and less than 5% is allocated to CPB administrative costs. In FY 2023, CPB Community Service Grants made up just 10.6% of the average public television station's total revenue and 6.0% of the average public radio station’s revenue. The CPB appropriation, as a percentage of stations’ total revenue, is 12.9%

You can get the entire CPB Financial information here.

So, even if Congress cuts the entire budget for the CPB, it likely won't change much, and it sure won't do a lot to pay for Trump's tax cuts for the rich er, I mean bring down the deficit.

And that's all in addition to the point that the First Amendment guarantees freedom of the press.

Basically, Trump wants to violate the Constitution just to punish NPR for not being nice to him. That's now how the leader of a democracy is supposed to act.

-- A2SG, how anyone could support this is well beyond me....
 
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Trump's right to freedom of speech was violated by the judge.
Nope. A few very limited restrictions were placed on him while he was a defendant on trial, all to ensure he got a fair trial. His actions were impeding that.

But, as we all know, the last thing Trump wanted then was a fair trial.

-- A2SG, which is exactly why he was doing everything he could to impede it.....
 
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Nope. A few very limited restrictions were placed on him while he was a defendant on trial, all to ensure he got a fair trial. His actions were impeding that.

But, as we all know, the last thing Trump wanted then was a fair trial.

-- A2SG, which is exactly why he was doing everything he could to impede it.....
The judge and the Democrats wanted anything but a fair trial. The persecution of Trump by the Democrats won him the election.
 
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According to Wikipedia:

In 2010, NPR revenues totaled $180 million, with the bulk of revenues coming from programming fees, grants from foundations or business entities, contributions and sponsorships. According to the 2009 financial statement, about 50% of NPR revenues come from the fees it charges member stations for programming and distribution charges. Typically, NPR member stations receive funds through on-air pledge drives, corporate underwriting, state and local governments, educational institutions, and the federally funded Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB). In 2009, member stations derived 6% of their revenue from federal, state and local government funding, 10% of their revenue from CPB grants, and 14% of their revenue from universities. NPR receives a small number of competitive grants from CPB and federal agencies like the Department of Education and the Department of Commerce. This funding amounts to less than 1% of revenues.

Emphasis added.

The total federal appropriation for the entire Corporation for Public Broadcasting is $525 million, and the distribution of those funds are specified by statute:

By statute, more than 70% of CPB's annual federal appropriation goes directly to more than 1,500 local public media stations, and less than 5% is allocated to CPB administrative costs. In FY 2023, CPB Community Service Grants made up just 10.6% of the average public television station's total revenue and 6.0% of the average public radio station’s revenue. The CPB appropriation, as a percentage of stations’ total revenue, is 12.9%

You can get the entire CPB Financial information here.

So, even if Congress cuts the entire budget for the CPB, it likely won't change much, and it sure won't do a lot to pay for Trump's tax cuts for the rich er, I mean bring down the deficit.

And that's all in addition to the point that the First Amendment guarantees freedom of the press.

Basically, Trump wants to violate the Constitution just to punish NPR for not being nice to him. That's now how the leader of a democracy is supposed to act.

-- A2SG, how anyone could support this is well beyond me....
I've heard that for a long time, they get only a small percentage of their budget, so what's the big deal in cutting federal funding? The problems with NPR have gone on for a long time. I know when I complained about a false statement on public radio I couldn't get anyone to give me the time of day. Fortunately our state is the only one with a news council, made up of volunteer journalists that rotate their positions, and the reporter I talked to was rather sheepish and agreed to make an on air retraction. But for the other 49 states there is little recourse.
 
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The judge and the Democrats wanted anything but a fair trial.
What exactly did they do to prevent it? Please, be specific. I tend not to put much credence in vague accusations without substance, just so you know. Unlike others.

The persecution of Trump by the Democrats won him the election.
Trump was found guilty of crimes he committed all by himself, without help from any democrats. As to why people voted for a convicted felon, I admit, I have no idea.

-- A2SG, and we're all paying for those people's misguided notion.....
 
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This is not about freedom of speech, it is about forcing taxpayers to pay for the Democratic Party. The networks have freedom of speech and if you want them then contribute from your own pocket.
Since you are continuing these baseless claims, care to finally address posts 37 & 39 and explain how supposedly that example you posted shows NPR is biased? That was your claim, yet the article doesn't match the claims you are pushing.
 
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I've heard that for a long time, they get only a small percentage of their budget, so what's the big deal in cutting federal funding?
There isn't one. The problem is that Congress funds the CPB, and any changes in the appropriations determined by statute are to be done by Congress through a vote.

The further problem is that Trump is clearly trying to punish a news organization based on their viewpoint, and the Constitution guarantees freedom of the press.

The problems with NPR have gone on for a long time. I know when I complained about a false statement on public radio I couldn't get anyone to give me the time of day. Fortunately our state is the only one with a news council, made up of volunteer journalists that rotate their positions, and the reporter I talked to was rather sheepish and agreed to make an on air retraction. But for the other 49 states there is little recourse.
Hey, no one said any press outlet is perfect. Only that the Constitution guarantees they are free from government interference.

-- A2SG, having worked in journalism, I can tell you from personal experience: none of the people who work at any media outlet are perfect.....
 
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