US economy may be entering a recession

[DaisyDay]

And yes, he also got some nice deals from the Biden administration, like 400 million dollar orders for Tesla Cybertrucks.

How much of this is true?

 

[Nithavela]

How much of this is true?

I've yet to see any fact checking to the contrary from either side of the aisle, so I think it's at least possible.

 

[Landon Caeli]

You only heard what you wanted to hear.

MAGA has been duped. They voted for a man who is being manipulated by a group of people whose interests are objectively far from the sort of "God and country" interests that they believe in. Musk is a foreign-born atheist who arrived here as an illegal immigrant, whose grandfather was a literal Nazi. His father was raised in South Africa because it was a Nazi haven after WWII. Musk believes in replacing all our jobs with robots and is also influenced by a "philosopher" (Curtis Yarvin) that thinks the masses of humanity should either be exterminated, or plugged into virtual realities like the Matrix. Musk is also a terrible father and husband with a profane, reductionist view of marriage and children (he's basically just a sperm donor and views his wives as incubators).

And this is the actual America Musk is trying to build. A dystopian hellscape where women are reduced to breeding stock, poor people are either dead or disenfranchised, and only rich people like him have lives worth living.

Is this like propoganda?

Your post feels like the 1930's, 40's.

 

[FireDragon76]

Is this like propoganda?

Your post feels like the 1930's, 40's.

Which isn't a coincidence.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Elon was always graceless, crazy, and a liar.

Your proof of your claim?

 

[NxNW]

Your proof of your claim?

The recent slapdown of his lie by an astronaut.

 

[civilwarbuff]

The recent slapdown of his lie by an astronaut.

You mean someone's opinion? I mean if someone said you were graceless, crazy and a liar wouldn't you expect some sort of evidence of that?....besides their opinion that is?

 

[Bradskii]

You mean someone's opinion? I mean if someone said you were graceless, crazy and a liar wouldn't you expect some sort of evidence of that?....besides their opinion that is?

The first two are indeed matters of opinon. The fact that he has lied is not. You've been given enough examples in various threads.

 

[essentialsaltes]

I think one of the more hilarious parts was him claiming to be a top player in ... Path of Exile 2 in the world, and then doing a stream of him playing and everyone who has played a little immediately seeing that he has no idea what he's doing.

He did it again, and rage-quit after being beaten by the tutorial boss.

Elon Musk Rage Quits Gaming Livestream After Dying, Gets Mercilessly Mocked by Viewers​

"Elon Musk just rage quit his Twitter stream after dying to a tutorial boss."​

During a Saturday livestream of himself playing the free-to-play action RPG Path of Exile 2 (PoE 2) — which allegedly served as an "airborne continuity test" of SpaceX's Starlink on board his private jet — Musk was ruthlessly bullied by other players in the game's chat, as spotted by Polygon.

My satellites are lagging!

 

[durangodawood]

He did it again, and rage-quit after being beaten by the tutorial boss.

Elon Musk Rage Quits Gaming Livestream After Dying, Gets Mercilessly Mocked by Viewers​

"Elon Musk just rage quit his Twitter stream after dying to a tutorial boss."​

During a Saturday livestream of himself playing the free-to-play action RPG Path of Exile 2 (PoE 2) — which allegedly served as an "airborne continuity test" of SpaceX's Starlink on board his private jet — Musk was ruthlessly bullied by other players in the game's chat, as spotted by Polygon.

My satellites are lagging!

Its all too weird.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

How much of this is true?

The story originally got reported (incorrectly) by Rachel Maddow as Trump showing favoritism to Musk.

State Dept Plans to Spend $400M on Armored Teslas

Musk has had 120 satellites crash to Earth in the last month, so what could possibly go wrong?

www.christianforums.com

It was then clarified that it happened under Biden, and was one of those things where the government wanted to explore Electric truck/suv vehicles for military purposes, and Tesla was literally the only one who bid on getting the contract.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

LOL. Unbelievable. First he gets falsely criticized for doing poorly, then he gets falsely vilified for doing well. Like with Trump if he cured cancer, he'd be vilified for it.

Trump couldn't handle COVID-19 well. There's no way Trump is smart enough to cure cancer.

 

[Valletta]

Trump couldn't handle COVID-19 well. There's no way Trump is smart enough to cure cancer.

Operation Warp Speed was amazing. The Democrats said it just could not be done in that time frame. Trump probably saved millions of lives worldwide through that one initiative of his.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

Oh no! I cannot say I’m surprised.

Sincere question only:

Weren’t we in a recession when Obama was in office? I graduated high school in 2014, and Obama was president. I remember people complaining back then…

Only because it started under Bush. That's why I won't vote for a Republican president. They do so badly. It takes Democrats for ever to fix things. And since Trump was elected again. I doubt the United States will ever recover.

 

[RileyG]

Only because it started under Bush. That's why I won't vote for a Republican president. They do so badly. It takes Democrats for ever to fix things. And since Trump was elected again. I doubt the United States will ever recover.

I respect your perspective, but I don’t agree. Thanks for the response, though.

Take care.

 

[wing2000]

If a recession does occur, it will be the first that's initiated by the actions of one man.

 

[FireDragon76]

If a recession does occur, it will be the first that's initiated by the actions of one man.

We don't live in ordinary times.

If not for the cult of personality that Trump has created, he would have been impeached and removed. But as it is, it seems the world, and the US in particular, has to get an object lesson in why following a demagogue leads to ruin.

 

[7thKeeper]

He did it again, and rage-quit after being beaten by the tutorial boss.

Elon Musk Rage Quits Gaming Livestream After Dying, Gets Mercilessly Mocked by Viewers​

"Elon Musk just rage quit his Twitter stream after dying to a tutorial boss."​

During a Saturday livestream of himself playing the free-to-play action RPG Path of Exile 2 (PoE 2) — which allegedly served as an "airborne continuity test" of SpaceX's Starlink on board his private jet — Musk was ruthlessly bullied by other players in the game's chat, as spotted by Polygon.

My satellites are lagging!

Why, Elon, why?

He just can't stop himself, can he? What a doof.

 

[Job 33:6]

If DOGE is successful (weeding out unproductive or fraudulent Federal spending) - I would expect the GDP to show a recessionary pattern in the short term: reducing this kind spending directly reduces the GDP (as wages are removed from the total figure). Over time, the people losing their (relatively unproductive) job will find new, hopefully more meaningful jobs and GDP will pick-up again.

Looking at only GDP growth makes no sense if growth in total Federal Debt is not taken into account. Statistically it's easy to inflate GDP numbers with borrowed money that's pumped into 'b*llsh*t jobs' (that's a real word in Economics, but the CF forum software won't allow me to spell it out). When those jobs are culled - the reverse will happen: lower (short term) GDP but also less budget deficit/debt, and over time .. more people available for actual productive positions.

In Australia a similar thing has happened under the current Labour Government - virtually ALL recent job growth was for Government funded operations.

Those jobs don't actually account for US debt. So no, culling jobs will not reverse the deficit.

 

[Job 33:6]

Oh no! I cannot say I’m surprised.

Sincere question only:

Weren’t we in a recession when Obama was in office? I graduated high school in 2014, and Obama was president. I remember people complaining back then…

The housing market had crashed. This began under the Bush administration. Banks were issuing loans that borrowers couldn't repay for their mortgages. And that resulted in a chain reaction of issues in which, as banks failed, businesses couldn't borrow money for large-scale projects, and couldn't pay their employees, which led to layoffs and so on and so on.