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Woman in Woman's Restroom in Tucson Walmart confronted by sheriff's deputies; One deputy insisted she “looked like a man”

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Islam is not the issue (maybe another issue) but the LA creeps were invited by the Dodgers ball club to "perform". It is an implication of MLB itself. They have happily backtracked, but they allowed LGBTQ promotion in the 2024 season. This promotion was entirely out of character for the baseball subculture, leading me to suspect that the Biden White House, a major source of such promotion last year, might have pressured them, but I haven't investigated this far enough to claim that outright. Maybe you know more.
Agreed.

I'm happy their plans backfired.

They did it to themselves.
 
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But only to those who do not pay attention to what is actually said. (You wouldn't make a good trial lawyer!)
What the character knew in the scene was that you can usually find out if someone has a penis by grabbing their crotch. Where’s this vast difference between the knowledge of that and doing that?
 
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Cis Woman Confronted by Cops in Walmart Restroom: Kalaya Morton Demands Justice

In an alarming incident at a Tucson, Arizona Walmart, 19-year-old Kalaya Morton, a Black cisgender lesbian, was confronted by two male sheriff’s deputies while using the women’s restroom, sparking outrage and a demand for accountability.

Morton, who identifies as masculine-presenting or a “stud,” recounted the humiliating encounter that occurred when a store employee erroneously assumed she was a transgender woman. In an exclusive interview with The Advocate, Morton detailed her shock when the two deputies barged in, shining flashlights into the restroom stall.

“You have to get out of here. You have to come out. We need to talk to you.”

“I’m still using the restroom. I’m sitting down, I’m peeing. What is the issue?,” Morton incredulously told the deputies as she sat there.

Upon finally exiting the stall, Morton even lifted her shirt, thinking it would put to rest the police inquiries about her appearance. Spoiler alert: it didn’t. One deputy insisted she “looked like a man,” prompting Morton to start recording. In a now-viral TikTok video

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department has announced an internal investigation into the incident

In Arizona, where there is no specific law dictating restroom usage based on gender identity, Morton’s case exemplifies the broader issues surrounding gender policing and restroom access—especially as lawmakers nationwide double down on restrictive policies regarding transgender and gender-nonconforming individuals.
Land of the Free. Another step on the route to Morality Police.
 
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"rare or non-existent"?
Yes, rare or non-existent. For all of this panic about men dressing as women to perv in the ladies room, where are all of the stories? I know how your favorite media sources work in this panic, such stories are broadcast *widely*. If it was common we'd hear about it.
Did you watch any Major league baseball games in 2024?
No. Why would I? I don't follow any teams.
LGBTQ was being promoted "in your face" until thousands of protestors of a disgusting troupe of perverts and miscreants in Dodger Stadium in LA brought it to an end.

I don't know this incident, but that you have *a* specific incident is in support of my assertion that this is a moral panic. (Just look at the language you use "disgusting", "perverts", "miscreants", "Dodgers".)

Did these "perverts" do something in the ladies room at Dodger Stadium? We were talking about restrooms here.
Do you pay any attention to the popular info infrastructure and conclude that promotion of sexual perversion is "something either rare or non-existent"?
Men do go creeping in the ladies room, install cameras, drill holes in the wall, etc. Some of them probably dress in drag to do it. But what you guys fail to do repeatedly is provide any evidence that that is why transwomen use the ladies room.

(Non-conforming gender identity isn't sexual in nature.)
 
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Not to be rude, but law enforcement making bathroom checks is rude.
It's a difficult position to be put in, someone is telling you there is a man in the women's bathroom and they expect you to do something. People think you're supposed to fix everything when you're in law enforcement.
The officers made the wrong decision because they didn't have a law to back up their decision to go in the women's restroom.
But people would have been unhappy and criticizing no matter what they did
 
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Cis Woman Confronted by Cops in Walmart Restroom: Kalaya Morton Demands Justice

In an alarming incident at a Tucson, Arizona Walmart, 19-year-old Kalaya Morton, a Black cisgender lesbian, was confronted by two male sheriff’s deputies while using the women’s restroom, sparking outrage and a demand for accountability.

Morton, who identifies as masculine-presenting or a “stud,” recounted the humiliating encounter that occurred when a store employee erroneously assumed she was a transgender woman. In an exclusive interview with The Advocate, Morton detailed her shock when the two deputies barged in, shining flashlights into the restroom stall.

“You have to get out of here. You have to come out. We need to talk to you.”

“I’m still using the restroom. I’m sitting down, I’m peeing. What is the issue?,” Morton incredulously told the deputies as she sat there.

Upon finally exiting the stall, Morton even lifted her shirt, thinking it would put to rest the police inquiries about her appearance. Spoiler alert: it didn’t. One deputy insisted she “looked like a man,” prompting Morton to start recording. In a now-viral TikTok video

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department has announced an internal investigation into the incident

In Arizona, where there is no specific law dictating restroom usage based on gender identity, Morton’s case exemplifies the broader issues surrounding gender policing and restroom access—especially as lawmakers nationwide double down on restrictive policies regarding transgender and gender-nonconforming individuals.

This is another reason why anti-trans laws are a bad idea.
 
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Public defecation is a persistent problem in San Francisco, California, and is linked to homelessness and economic inequality.
This is not the problem. It is mental illness and drug abuse.
Causes Economic inequality, Lack of access to sanitation facilities, and Barriers to accessing sanitation facilities for people experiencing homelessness.
Again a false cause.
 
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I’m sure mental illness and drug abuse have a lot to do with it
You don't crap or pee on a public sidewalk BECAUSE OF MONEY. Even people pick up after their dogs in public places.
I remember reading about some rock star that got caught up in drug use. he had a mansion and a household staff. Downstairs was maintained and normal. Upstairs where the drug use was done, was awful. Urine, vomit, feces all around the upstairs area. It comes with that territory.
 
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You don't crap or pee on a public sidewalk BECAUSE OF MONEY. Even people pick up after their dogs in public places.
I remember reading about some rock star that got caught up in drug use. he had a mansion and a household staff. Downstairs was maintained and normal. Upstairs where the drug use was done, was awful. Urine, vomit, feces all around the upstairs area. It comes with that territory.
I've known plenty of people who use drugs who didn't defecate on the sidewalk.
I'm sure it plays a role but not caring is the main issue
 
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I've known plenty of people who use drugs who didn't defecate on the sidewalk.
Sure none did I am sure that did heroin in that mansion.
I'm sure it plays a role but not caring is the main issue
Right addiction, and illness are not cared for enough. I agree. It is not simply lack of Money. That ignores the problem IMO.
 
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There is no law in this case
In this case it was prejudice. Someone thought a woman was a man. She wasn’t. I’m sure she was humiliated.
 
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Sure none did I am sure that did heroin in that mansion.

Right addiction, and illness are not cared for enough. I agree. It is not simply lack of Money. That ignores the problem IMO.
The information you are negating came from Google AI.
I was responding to someone who implied that pooping in public was not really a problem in San Francisco.
I'm sure drug use and mental illness are significant factors in this problem but when I say the main problem is not caring I mean the people that are doing it don't care. They don't care what people think, they don't care about anyone else, they don't care if people see them doing it, they don't care that someone else has to clean it up and they don't care if it makes someone else sick. Drugs and mental illness are two of the reasons that they don't care.
You've been going on about this but I never claimed that you were wrong.
 
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In this case it was prejudice. Someone thought a woman was a man. She wasn’t. I’m sure she was humiliated.
I'm sure she was mad but telling her she looks like a man shouldn't be something she takes offense to because that's the look she's going for
 
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In one of the Crocodile Dundee movies, Mick Dundee shows how you can determine who is male or female.
That is assault.
A crime. It may have been funny in a movie but in real life, you could be charged with sexual assault.
 
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I'm sure she was mad but telling her she looks like a man shouldn't be something she takes offense to because that's the look she's going for
Again. Don’t understand it, but I really don’t care. Their lifestyle, their choice, eh?
 
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Irs interesting that more people arw upset about this than an actual man getting naked in womens locker rooms.

In a sense the law in this instance is really irrelevant. Let's say for arguments sake there was a law against a man using the women's room.

This STILL could have happened.

There is a LOT missing in this story.

1. Did the officers really order her out of the stalls? Or is she making that up.

2. Did the officers check her ID?

3. Why were the officers using flashlights. Were they really? Restrooms usually have enough light that you dont need flashlights. You can see that in the video.

4. The officers don't seem all that agitated over this despite her claims of their banging on the door and ordering her out. And they are wearing body cams. So let's see the whole incident and not 10 seconds of it.

5. Did the store ask her to leave or did they just see her go in and report it. The store should have gone in and checked to see if everything was okay. They should if they think a man was going into the lady's room. Why's he going in when there a perfectly good men's room? Is he about to commit a crime?

You know good and well this isn't the first time in the history of law enforcement that someone reported a suspicious male entering the womens room.

She lifted up her shirt? They certainly didn't ask her to. Nordid they check her genitalia or ask to.

Some wondered about checking ID. How do we know they didn't?

Look, if you are.trying to look like a man and enter the womens room you should be checked out. How does anyone know you aren't one? Part of this is on her. Because we KNOW for a fact that men HAVE assaulted women in the lady's room.
 
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