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Days after Trump takes over, US has first mid-air collision in 16 years

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Inaccuracies? or things you don't like?
Huh? Where did that come from?
In the video I linked, she does a pretty detailed overview of the policies in question, including which aspect of the tests and certification process were impacted by the previous rules. Nothing they said in that clip was inaccurate from what I can tell.
My comments about inaccuracies wasn't with regards to the clip you linked. I haven't seen that clip ever. I was talking in general.
I saw some of what Cenk was saying on a stage with Charlie Kirk, and I heard some of what Anna has been saying and I have found there to be inaccuracies. I don't care if they are pointing out some problems with the "left" or the "Democrat" party, I have no dog in that race.
The only think I am interested in, is if people are over generalising or just downright lying.

And they still weren't giving any support to Trump's statements claiming that DEI was to blame, they openly stated the DEI policies had nothing to do with this crash.
I don't think an investigation and report have been produced yet. I think it is too early for anyone to be saying that DEI policies had nothing to do with the crash.
They were just merely being honest about the fact that the "DEI lowered standards among air traffic controllers" wasn't some random conspiracy theory he pulled out of thin air.
I don't know if DEI has lowered any standards. From what I read was the encouraging handicapped people for traffic control jobs did not lower any standards. But of course, to know or critique what Cenk and Anna have actually said I would need to watch the clip. I haven't watched it yet.

I've not noticed any sort of "equivalence" attempts in their content.
I have. I don't watch much TYT. I find Cenk and Anna to be too emotional and shouty and triggered at times and that makes it hard for me to watch. I say the Florentine conversation with Cenk, Florentine came across really well. Cenk not so.
They still go after the GOP ten times more than they go after democrats (and more harshly in most cases)
I don't care. I am not saying that they are Right leaning or MAGA supporters, I don't care which way they lean.
But perhaps the perceptions you've gotten from them is symptomatic of a broader form of "denialism" that's that the Democrats experiencing.
Nope. I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a leftist.
If Progressive pundits using a fraction of their time to make critiques about their own party is being seen "both sides'ing", perhaps that's the problem.
I'm not a progressive. I'm not a populist. I'm not anti establishment. Which is probably why I'm not a TYT fan and why I don't feel betrayed by TYT. I have no dog in this fight.
Where there seems to be this attitude of "The GOP/Trump is so uniquely bad,
He is uniquely bad. I don't think there has ever been an attack on the capital before to try and stop the peaceful transfer of power before. I don't think any president before has tried to get an alternate electors to fake official documents and to put pressure on their own VP to use that to ignore electorate votes and just declare himself the winner despite having lost the election.
we shouldn't even spend any time talking about the Democrats until Trump is out of the way,
I think anyone and everyone should be fair game for honest criticism.

therefore any critiques of democrats should just be immediately dismissed as both sides'ing or whataboutism"
I have no idea what you are on about.
...while that may be the dominate thought process in Democratic echo-chambers in coastal states, the 2024 election results would indicate that sentiment isn't as omnipresent among the rest of the country.
The 2024 election just tells us that most voters in USA who were bothered to vote and who were not suppressed, voted for Trump for whatever reason which is unknown.
 
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The people that voted for Trump, decided to vote for à criminal. They're trying to make excuses. Or , they don't care.
OR, we knew he'd be a better president than Biden ever was, and far better than Kamala ever could be.
So far, he's proving us to be correct.
 
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January 20: FAA director quits after Elon Musk orders him to resign
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January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
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January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
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January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
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January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years; Trump blames it on DEI

FAA Administrator Quit on Jan. 20 After Elon Musk Told Him to Resign

Teens from a Boston skating club, their mothers, and coaches among passengers killed in air crash

The 3 member flight crew on the helicopter at the time of the incident and the shake up by president Trump in the FAA have no correlation whatsoever
 
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The 3 member flight crew on the helicopter at the time of the incident and the shake up by president Trump in the FAA have no correlation whatsoever
And DEI? :rolleyes:
 
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OR, we knew he'd be a better president than Biden ever was, and far better than Kamala ever could be.
So far, he's proving us to be correct.
That trillion dollar drop in the stock market sure is a great example, not to mention all those planes falling out of the sky.
 
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That trillion dollar drop in the stock market sure is a great example, not to mention all those planes falling out of the sky.
I wasn't aware that Trump dictates the stock market, or controls what airplanes do.
 
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January 20: FAA director quits after Elon Musk orders him to resign
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January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
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January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
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January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
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January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years; Trump blames it on DEI

FAA Administrator Quit on Jan. 20 After Elon Musk Told Him to Resign

Teens from a Boston skating club, their mothers, and coaches among passengers killed in air crash

You realize these are completely unrelated events, right? The pilots didn't forget how to fly, nor the air traffic controllers forget how to direct pilots in 9 DAYS just because a higher up bureaucrat quit and a committee disbanded.

It came out later than an air traffic controller was doing the job of two because the supervisor allowed one to go home early, and that the most inexperienced Black Hawk pilot was flying at the same time. It was a tragic accident by all appearances.
 
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You realize these are completely unrelated events, right?

It came out later than an air traffic controller was doing the job of two because the supervisor allowed one to go home early, and that the most inexperienced Black Hawk pilot was flying at the same time.
It's a shame the Commander-In-Chief wasn't up to the job.
 
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It's a shame the Commander-In-Chief wasn't up to the job.
Oh, was Trump in the Tower directing these planes? It's not like Afghanistan where Biden gave direct orders to abandon soldiers and allies to death and billions in equipment and just fly out of Afghanistan.
 
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Is he not the head of the federal government?
He's the head of the Executive branch of the federal government, but he is not the pilot who flew a Black Hawk helicopter over the prescribed altitude, and he is also not an air traffic controller. Those are the people who have far more influence over how aircraft fly than any single person in the government.
 
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Is he not the head of the federal government?

Never happened.
But wait...isn't Biden the Head of the federal government?

I guess you missed the news that year. From CNN (lefty source favorable to Democrats/Biden):

"President Joe Biden’s administration left roughly $7 billion in military equipment behind in Afghanistan after the deadly withdrawal in August that left the Taliban in control, a new Pentagon report reviewed by CNN on Wednesday showed.


According to the report, the U.S. gave the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces $18.6 billion in equipment between 2005 and 2021. Approximately $7.12 billion was still in Afghanistan after the withdrawal, including aircraft, air-to-ground munitions, military vehicles, weapons, communications equipment and more.


The report states that Biden’s Department of Defense does not plan to “retrieve or destroy” the billions of dollars worth of equipment that is now under the Taliban’s control."

Also from CNN:
The debacle of the US defeat and chaotic retreat in Afghanistan is a political disaster for Joe Biden, whose failure to orchestrate an urgent and orderly exit will further rock a presidency plagued by crises and stain his legacy.


But a stunning Taliban blitzkrieg followed more than 20 years of US and allied policy failures, misunderstandings of Afghan politics and culture, public war fatigue and the culpability and corruption of the failed state’s leaders.


And while Biden’s political and geopolitical rivals rush to exploit his mistakes, the true magnitude of the crisis can only be judged in the human tragedy of a people again subject to Taliban persecution. And a failure to fulfill the now apparently near-impossible tasks of evacuating all the Afghan translators, workers and fixers on whom the US relied and who now face Taliban retribution would besmirch America’s conscience and global reputation.

From the Post:
But that view was heartily opposed by Biden’s top military advisers — including then-Chief of the Joint Staff Mark Milley — who predicted the rapid downfall of the Afghan government unless the US kept at least 2,500 troops in country.

Those warnings proved true on Aug. 15, 2021, when the Taliban — which the US-led invasion had ousted from power two decades before — took Kabul even before the last US troops left the country.

The president briefly mentioned “those brave service members whose lives were lost during the withdrawal” — but did not go into further detail.

13 Soldiers died in the botched withdrawal which Biden ordered despite his own generals disagreeing. Biden never even contacted their families; he just spoke briefly to them at the Dignified transfer and left.
 
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