More Democrats fear the party’s image isn’t just damaged – it’s broken

[Aryeh Jay]

No other party has a chance now. I think it is pretty clear that the goal of the Trump administration is a one party state at any cost.

And that's bad how? No opponents to making America Great? No opposition to passing laws that benefit people?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

If you dont see a problem classifying the working class as "rude-crude-lewd" then you are just as disconnected from the working class as the other poster. This is why the DNC lost the working man.

I hear that they are deplorable.

Can't we all just watch RuPaul drag race.

 

[RDKirk]

Yesterday, a commentator on Progress Radio said we don't talk the working class language.
My parents were both college graduates. My dad was an accountant.
I knew few blue collar workers.
I became someone who would and could talk to anyone, not because I spoke their language, but because I am truly interested in everyone, and amazed by people who can build and fix things.
I think that's the secret, the interest, the wanting to connect.
But he said our politicians don't speak blue-collar and DJT does.
I respect people too much to talk rude-crude-lewd. I have never had blue collar people speak rude-crude-lewd to me. I think they want respect and interest.
So why are Democrats thinking rude-crude-lewd works?
It's recognizing everyone's dignity, not talking down to them like that.

Using profanity isn't necessary, but refraining from calling them "deplorables" would be helpful.

I've got a bachelor's degree, but I also know how to overhaul an auto engine (well, at least a pre-2000 engine). I have easily detected two things:

When Democrats are talking about their constituents, they're not including people without college degrees. They're also not including men, not even black men. And I'm not the only person who has figured that out.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

No other party has a chance now. I think it is pretty clear that the goal of the Trump administration is a one party state at any cost.

Even Rome fell.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Even Rome fell.

Yes, immigrants had something to do with it.

 

[RDKirk]

Yes, immigrants had something to do with it.

Paradoxically...or maybe not...the Visigoths invaded Rome because they wanted to become Roman citizens.

 

[Fantine]

Using profanity isn't necessary, but refraining from calling them "deplorables" would be helpful.

I've got a bachelor's degree, but I also know how to overhaul an auto engine (well, at least a pre-2000 engine). I have easily detected two things:

When Democrats are talking about their constituents, they're not including people without college degrees. They're also not including men, not even black men. And I'm not the only person who has figured that out.

Is it possible that so many people have fallen for the big storage unit full of lies that they think only educated people are smart enough to reach with the truth?
Because it's not a matter of education. Education doesn't seem to render people immune.
It takes common sense, kindness, unselfishness, seeing the big picture, and good intuition.
There are plenty of high school graduates who are excellent judges of character, and, to my dismay, Phd's with no judgment at all.

 

[BCP1928]

I do believe this to be true and old Bernie is hinting at a third party. I can see why some old Democrats say "I didn't leave the party the party has left me", the elites took them too far to the left.

The elites didn't take them to the left. They took them in a different direction entirely, leaving the Left and the old guard moderates behind, waltzing off with the Christian Right into a land of sexual wonderment.

 

[BCP1928]

The Democrats put out a very strong message that they're all about conceit and condescension.

And the Right has bamboozled them with the woke monster. They won't get a raise either way.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Yesterday, a commentator on Progress Radio said we don't talk the working class language.
My parents were both college graduates. My dad was an accountant.
I knew few blue collar workers.
I became someone who would and could talk to anyone, not because I spoke their language, but because I am truly interested in everyone, and amazed by people who can build and fix things.
I think that's the secret, the interest, the wanting to connect.
But he said our politicians don't speak blue-collar and DJT does.
I respect people too much to talk rude-crude-lewd. I have never had blue collar people speak rude-crude-lewd to me. I think they want respect and interest.
So why are Democrats thinking rude-crude-lewd works?
It's recognizing everyone's dignity, not talking down to them like that.

STOP LISTENING TO PROGRESS RADIO! STOP WATCHING CNN AND MNNBC. STOP LISTENING TO RACHEL MADDOW AND THE VIEW! STOP WAITING FOR THESE SHRILLS TO TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK AND LISTEN TO WHAT CONSERVATIVES AND EX-DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU FOR YEARS!

 

[iluvatar5150]

STOP LISTENING TO PROGRESS RADIO! STOP WATCHING CNN AND MNNBC. STOP LISTENING TO RACHEL MADDOW AND THE VIEW! STOP WAITING FOR THESE SHRILLS TO TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK AND LISTEN TO WHAT CONSERVATIVES AND EX-DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU FOR YEARS!

I’ve been listening and they mostly talk nonsense.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

I’ve been listening and they mostly talk nonsense.

"Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand."

I guess it is all just parable nonsense to you. Color me not suprised. Enjoy another four years of Trump and another 8 with JD Vance because you just don't get it.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

More Democrats fear the party’s image isn’t just damaged – it’s broken​

Everyone agrees they lost the working class, but they’re deeply divided on where to place the blame — and what to do about it.​

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Democrats are having a full-blown identity crisis.​

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Days after Kamala Harris’ defeat, the extent of their party’s failure is becoming increasingly clear. It’s bad enough that Democrats are still losing working-class whites, as they have in recent elections. Now, exit polls show blue-collar Latinos and some Black men, long a core part of the Democratic base, are abandoning the party, too, fueling electoral shellackings. Republicans flipped the Senate and are padding their majority. Democrats’ path to a majority in the House is narrowing.​

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“The Democratic Party needs to be rebuilt,” said Pramila Jayapal, chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. “We have become a party of elites, whether we abandoned working-class people, whether they abandoned us, whether it’s some combination of all of the above.”

In interviews with 16 elected officials, party leaders and strategists, Democrats from both wings of the party agreed they have stopped knowing how to talk to the working class, once the very core of their identity. But they were deeply divided on where to place the blame — and what to do about it. Just like Donald Trump’s victory did in 2016 — and in 2020, when he lost by a smaller margin than expected — his return to the White House is fueling a raging debate between the party’s progressive and moderate wings about where to go from here.

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It was broken when Hilary was made candidate, it hasn't been fixed yet, it just got more broken.

 

[iluvatar5150]

"Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand."

I guess it is all just parable nonsense to you. Color me not suprised. Enjoy another four years of Trump and another 8 with JD Vance because you just don't get it.

Oh, I think I get it. Since we're tossing around scripture:

"For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths."

 

[Fantine]

What I and my friends are seeing is a systematic silencing of the press, reminiscent of other fascist regimes.
Jim Acosta forced out of CNN. Hosts getting more cautious.
Oligarchs buying media (Bezos, Musk) in order to promote their agenda--enriching themselves.
MSNBC could have the billionaires' club cutting advertising.

 

[RileyG]

What I and my friends are seeing is a systematic silencing of the press, reminiscent of other fascist regimes.
Jim Acosta forced out of CNN. Hosts getting more cautious.
Oligarchs buying media (Bezos, Musk) in order to promote their agenda--enriching themselves.
MSNBC could have the billionaires' club cutting advertising.

I just....find that so hard to believe. With wokeness finally gone, people are allowed to have more and more free speech.

There is no "fascist regimes." Rather, with Trump back in office, people can speak and think freely without being "canceled" for not being "politically correct."

 

[RileyG]

Oh, I think I get it. Since we're tossing around scripture:

"For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths."

This isn't about religion or doctrine, here.

 

[iluvatar5150]

This isn't about religion or doctrine, here.

Then you should address your comment to the author of post 172.

 

[RileyG]

Then you should address your comment to the author of post 172.

That's a parable (Matthew 13:13)...but I'm just going down a rabbit hole on this one

 

[BCP1928]

I just....find that so hard to believe. With wokeness finally gone, people are allowed to have more and more free speech.

There is no "fascist regimes." Rather, with Trump back in office, people can speak and think freely without being "canceled" for not being "politically correct."

Or being dragged out of their offices by Musk and hs thugs--along with sensitive personal information on the clients they serve?