More Democrats fear the party’s image isn’t just damaged – it’s broken

[Always in His Presence]

More Democrats fear the party’s image isn’t just damaged – it’s broken​

Everyone agrees they lost the working class, but they’re deeply divided on where to place the blame — and what to do about it.​

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Democrats are having a full-blown identity crisis.​

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Days after Kamala Harris’ defeat, the extent of their party’s failure is becoming increasingly clear. It’s bad enough that Democrats are still losing working-class whites, as they have in recent elections. Now, exit polls show blue-collar Latinos and some Black men, long a core part of the Democratic base, are abandoning the party, too, fueling electoral shellackings. Republicans flipped the Senate and are padding their majority. Democrats’ path to a majority in the House is narrowing.​

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“The Democratic Party needs to be rebuilt,” said Pramila Jayapal, chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. “We have become a party of elites, whether we abandoned working-class people, whether they abandoned us, whether it’s some combination of all of the above.”

In interviews with 16 elected officials, party leaders and strategists, Democrats from both wings of the party agreed they have stopped knowing how to talk to the working class, once the very core of their identity. But they were deeply divided on where to place the blame — and what to do about it. Just like Donald Trump’s victory did in 2016 — and in 2020, when he lost by a smaller margin than expected — his return to the White House is fueling a raging debate between the party’s progressive and moderate wings about where to go from here.

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[Always in His Presence]

After historic losses, Democrats wonder where they go from here.​

Crucial Blue Wall states went red. Democrats have no obvious leader. And many of the voter groups the party relied on shifted to the right last week.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

The pendulum swings. Things may be very different in just two years.

 

[Always in His Presence]

The pendulum swings. Things may be very different in just two years.

True - but right now - boy do they need help

 

[Fantine]

Yesterday, a commentator on Progress Radio said we don't talk the working class language.
My parents were both college graduates. My dad was an accountant.
I knew few blue collar workers.
I became someone who would and could talk to anyone, not because I spoke their language, but because I am truly interested in everyone, and amazed by people who can build and fix things.
I think that's the secret, the interest, the wanting to connect.
But he said our politicians don't speak blue-collar and DJT does.
I respect people too much to talk rude-crude-lewd. I have never had blue collar people speak rude-crude-lewd to me. I think they want respect and interest.
So why are Democrats thinking rude-crude-lewd works?
It's recognizing everyone's dignity, not talking down to them like that.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Yesterday, a commentator on Progress Radio said we don't talk the working class language.

You as a group have forgotten it.

But he said our politicians don't speak blue-collar and DJT does.
I respect people too much to talk rude-crude-lewd. I have never had blue collar people speak rude-crude-lewd to me. I think they want respect and interest.
So why are Democrats thinking rude-crude-lewd works?
It's recognizing everyone's dignity, not talking down to them like that.

Rude and crude and lewd is not the working class language, except in the minds of out of touch elites. Those elites and plain old working class people have essentially nothing in common in philosophy or lifestyle or goals. For all of Kamala’s claiming she had grown up middle class she was seen as fake middle class by working people.

 

[durangodawood]

Obviously, what D's lack is a big shouty populist who commands personal loyalty.

 

[Laodicean60]

Democrats are having a full-blown identity crisis.

I do believe this to be true and old Bernie is hinting at a third party. I can see why some old Democrats say "I didn't leave the party the party has left me", the elites took them too far to the left.

 

[RileyG]

You as a group have forgotten it.

Rude and crude and lewd is not the working class language, except in the minds of out of touch elites. Those elites and plain old working class people have essentially nothing in common in philosophy or lifestyle or goals. For all of Kamala’s claiming she had grown up middle class she was seen as fake middle class by working people.

Harris was only pandering for votes. It didn’t work.

 

[RileyG]

Maybe if they didn’t choose a radical like Harris, their image wouldn’t be broken?

Maybe. Just. Maybe.

 

[BCP1928]

I do believe this to be true and old Bernie is hinting at a third party. I can see why some old Democrats say "I didn't leave the party the party has left me", the elites took them too far to the left.

Only too far to the culture war left. They didn't move to the real left far enough. That's what cost them the working class.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Only too far to the culture war left. They didn't move to the real left far enough. That's what cost them the working class.

Well they DID stop being the party of the working class who just want honest pay for honest work. The elites have abused the support of labor and now they have all but lost it.

 

[Belk]

Only too far to the culture war left. They didn't move to the real left far enough. That's what cost them the working class.

I think it was less that and more the condescending attitude.

 

[HarleyER]

More Democrats fear the party’s image isn’t just damaged – it’s broken​

Everyone agrees they lost the working class, but they’re deeply divided on where to place the blame — and what to do about it.​

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Democrats are having a full-blown identity crisis.​

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Days after Kamala Harris’ defeat, the extent of their party’s failure is becoming increasingly clear. It’s bad enough that Democrats are still losing working-class whites, as they have in recent elections. Now, exit polls show blue-collar Latinos and some Black men, long a core part of the Democratic base, are abandoning the party, too, fueling electoral shellackings. Republicans flipped the Senate and are padding their majority. Democrats’ path to a majority in the House is narrowing.​

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“The Democratic Party needs to be rebuilt,” said Pramila Jayapal, chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. “We have become a party of elites, whether we abandoned working-class people, whether they abandoned us, whether it’s some combination of all of the above.”

In interviews with 16 elected officials, party leaders and strategists, Democrats from both wings of the party agreed they have stopped knowing how to talk to the working class, once the very core of their identity. But they were deeply divided on where to place the blame — and what to do about it. Just like Donald Trump’s victory did in 2016 — and in 2020, when he lost by a smaller margin than expected — his return to the White House is fueling a raging debate between the party’s progressive and moderate wings about where to go from here.

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Democrats are seeking "blame" all the while ignoring that it is their policies that got them where they are today. It will be interesting how Democratic leaders are going to justify to the working class spending their hard earned tax dollars on protecting illegal immigrants, especially those of violent crimes, from being deported.

 

[chevyontheriver]

I think it was less that and more the condescending attitude.

They did put wokeness way ahead of looking after the little guy, which was once the core of Democratic Party polity - a long long time ago.

 

[RileyG]

They did put wokeness way ahead of looking after the little guy, which was once the core of Democratic Party polity - a long long time ago.

I don’t think they care about the little guy anymore.

 

[chevyontheriver]

I don’t think they care about the little guy anymore.

Democrats were pro-life once, and Republicans knew the doctors that could ‘solve’ their daughter’s or concubine’s ‘problems’. As the Democrats became more elitist and the elites became more sexually liberated they started needing to get their ‘problems’ ‘solved’. That’s not an approach that values the little guys at all.

 

[Belk]

I don’t think they care about the little guy anymore.

I think they do. The issue I see is they are not listening so they want to correct issues in ways that are not necessarily helpful.

 

[RileyG]

Democrats were pro-life once, and Republicans knew the doctors that could ‘solve’ their daughter’s or concubine’s ‘problems’. As the Democrats became more elitist and the elites became more sexually liberated they started needing to get their ‘problems’ ‘solved’. That’s not an approach that values the little guys at all.

It was the sexual revolution that caused the problems, wasn't it?

 

[ozso]

You as a group have forgotten it.

Rude and crude and lewd is not the working class language, except in the minds of out of touch elites. Those elites and plain old working class people have essentially nothing in common in philosophy or lifestyle or goals. For all of Kamala’s claiming she had grown up middle class she was seen as fake middle class by working people.

The Democrats put out a very strong message that they're all about conceit and condescension.