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Pete Hegseth confirmation hearing in the US Senate

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Maybe, maybe not. I think there's a real, substantive difference between showing up drunk to the office in the middle of the day and showing up buzzed for a midnight vote on which you've already made up your mind. That said, I'm not inclined to defend a bunch of senators and if they are hypocrites, so be it. That doesn't mean they're wrong. I've been drunk at work, too - but all I do is make video games. I don't want a SecDef who's inclined to taking those same liberties.
That is a fair point. However Mr Hegseth has never been drunk while working, according to multiple eyewitness reports. The only accusations against him in that regard comes from anonymous sources who still have not identified themselves.
 
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As I wrote before, popular opinions are not necessarily right opinions.
For example, Netanyahu's policies, condemned by the Hague as war crimes, condemned by Pope Francis, and resulting in many European nations and Canada ending support, are right in not being complicit with immorality.

I respect Pope Francis' beliefs on Israel and Gaza more than the entire incoming administration's. It's not even a contest.
I have never had any respect at all for this Pope's beliefs concerning the decades long violence started by the Palestinians and by Hamas & Hezbollah & Iran against Israel. The Hague appears to be influenced, IMO, by antisemitism people.
 
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I finally looked up Hegseth on Wikipedia--at least 70 references used.
Serving in Guantanamo and then convincing Trump to pardon war criminals? SMH.
And thank God he was removed from the Guardsmen protecting Biden on his Inauguration, sent home.
And working for a Koch Brothers non-profit seeking privatizing the VA? He was considered during Trump's first term for Veterans Affairs but veterans protested so loudly Trump backed down.
His views are terrifying. I could not imagine a more dangerous defense Secretary.
I now look on Trump's mercurial personality as hopeful. Hopefully he'll be axed quickly.
 
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I finally looked up Hegseth on Wikipedia--at least 70 references used.
Serving in Guantanamo and then convincing Trump to pardon war criminals? SMH.
And thank God he was removed from the Guardsmen protecting Biden on his Inauguration, sent home.
And working for a Koch Brothers non-profit seeking privatizing the VA? He was considered during Trump's first term for Veterans Affairs but veterans protested so loudly Trump backed down.
His views are terrifying. I could not imagine a more dangerous defense Secretary.
I now look on Trump's mercurial personality as hopeful. Hopefully he'll be axed quickly.
I shall be giving thanks and praising the Lord Jesus Christ when Pete Hegseth is confirmed by the Senate and I am also expecting Hegseth to be blessed with wisdom from Christ in order to be a most excellent SecDef.
 
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It will be interesting to see how this confirmation goes.
I watched some of it today; those female Democratic senators really came down hard on Pete.
It may have gone better for him if he had met with the Democrats, like he did the Republicans, before the hearing.
 
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I shall be giving thanks and praising the Lord Jesus Christ when Pete Hegseth is confirmed by the Senate and I am also expecting Hegseth to be blessed with wisdom from Christ in order to be a most excellent SecDef.
I also pray he is blessed with wisdom, completely replacing the dangerous ideas that he holds now.
 
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No one nominated Maddow, with her deep bench of researchers, a Cabinet post.
And no one in their right mind ever will. She
I respect Pope Francis' beliefs on Israel and Gaza more than the entire incoming administration's. It's not even a contest.
Do you respect his beliefs on the subject of abortion? Or are his beliefs only important when they line up with the left?
 
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That is a fair point. However Mr Hegseth has never been drunk while working, according to multiple eyewitness reports. The only accusations against him in that regard comes from anonymous sources who still have not identified themselves.
Haters will hate.
 
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And no one in their right mind ever will. She

Do you respect his beliefs on the subject of abortion? Or are his beliefs only important when they line up with the left?
Pope Francis has called the faithful to reject and speak out against abortion.

Fr. James Martin, SJ, despite coming off as "liberal" is 100% pro-life and is opposed to abortion.

Not to go off topic, but you are right, speaking from a faithful Catholic.
 
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Sounds like Rachel Maddow.
Maddow needs to repent of her lesbian lifestyle and turn to Christ.

She calls herself a "practicing Catholic" yet actively lives against what the Church teaches against.

SMH
 
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I am NOT calling Hegseth a drunk or alcoholic, but as someone who has far too many drinks to count, unfortunately, I understand how difficult it must be to give up drinking. No, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. Some people just lack empathy for those who suffer.

Shame on those who think it's a laughing matter and will point fingers to those they don't like.

I suffered quite a bit, too.
 
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No, he's a drunkard. He's a womanizer. He's a white man DEI hire. Not qualified to run the DOD. And no, it's not the Sec of Def to come up with withdrawal plans. btw, a president's military advisor is the Joint Chiefs of Staff. May want to look at roles before you criticize.
Only anonymous sources are accusing Hegseth of being a drunkard. The womanizer accusation doesn't mean a person is unfit to be a Senator, or a POTUS, or a SecDef according to the history of those offices.

The SecDef is supposed to be the top civilian authority, with the exception of the Commander in Chief, of the military. The SecDef is higher in the chain of command than the Joint Chiefs Staff.
 
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Only anonymous sources are accusing Hegseth of being a drunkard. The womanizer accusation doesn't mean a person is unfit to be a Senator, or a POTUS, or a SecDef according to the history of those offices.

The SecDef is supposed to be the top civilian authority, with the exception of the Commander in Chief, of the military. The SecDef is higher in the chain of command than the Joint Chiefs Staff.
In other words, it's all nonsense?

Why am I not surprised?

:(
 
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This is quite possibly the most uninformed opinion from you that I have read. Usually, I respect what you post, Sir. However, the term warfighter is one that military servicemembers actually do use and also use respectfully.
Cherry-picking this isolated bit out of a post talking about how the Secretary of Defense should be focused on, well, the defense of the US kinda gives away the game being played here by conservatives in my opinion.
 
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Do you understand that the vast majority of Americans most likely disagree with your assessment and opinions about the withdrawal from Afghanistan?
I don't know. Weren't the talking points about the election how the majority of voters picked the guy who came up with the idea?
 
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Only anonymous sources are accusing Hegseth of being a drunkard.

Hegseth wrote of his challenges with alcohol in his book.

The womanizer accusation doesn't mean a person is unfit to be a Senator, or a POTUS, or a SecDef according to the history of those offices.

Obviously, Evangelical America made it quite clear in 2016, 2020 and 2024 at the ballot box.
Character does not matter in a leader.
Integrety does not matter in a leader
Fidelity does not matter in a leader.
 
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