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Pete Hegseth confirmation hearing in the US Senate

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Biden gave our Afghani allies 6 months notice, but because our two previous presidents lacked the courage to follow through not everyone paid attention. No president could have gotten out of the mess any easier, but only one put common sense over popularity ratings.
And although we--and in the case of Ukraine, NATO--gave Ukraine and israel money and weaponry in their wars, no troops were committed.
The only troops were the Navy members who built a dock on the Mediteranean in Gaza in order to prevent Netanyahu from starving millions...and that is also why other nations have stopped supporting Israel's reign of terror.
 
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Actions count; words don't. Invoking the name of the Prince of Peace don't impresa me much if it's not reflected in one's life.
What did God say? "Not everyone who invokes Lord, Lord..."
 
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The fact is, the only reason Trump picked him as he looks good on TV and has excellent communication skills. He is a culture warrior who sounds good for the MAGA audience.
Sounds like Rachel Maddow.
 
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No one nominated Maddow, with her deep bench of researchers, a Cabinet post.
lol, yeah, that does seem to be one of the big differences between the two sides. Do the Dems have billionaires and professional loudmouths throwing their weight around? Sure. Do we elect them/nominate them to important positions? Not typically.
 
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To me, Lloyd Austin is a joke. To me, he was a lousy SecDef who cared more about DEI topics and LGBTQ concerns than he did about increasing the lethality of the USA military. Also, Lloyd Austin failed in preventing the extremely stupid and weak way in which our military retreated from Afghanistan.

It seems the Culture War is the most important war to you and many others, and Pete Hegseth is the perfect Culture "Warfighter"(*) for you guys. I'd rather know what he plans to do to prepare the US military for the potential of a (how should I put this) ground war in Asia, (China is now apparently building amphibious landing support craft) and to stop relying on small missile strikes and SpecOps.

*I think "warfighter" is a dumb term and it should go back into hiding and out of the general lexicon.
 
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*I think "warfighter" is a dumb term and it should go back into hiding and out of the general lexicon.
This is quite possibly the most uninformed opinion from you that I have read. Usually, I respect what you post, Sir. However, the term warfighter is one that military servicemembers actually do use and also use respectfully.
 
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Biden gave our Afghani allies 6 months notice, but because our two previous presidents lacked the courage to follow through not everyone paid attention. No president could have gotten out of the mess any easier, but only one put common sense over popularity ratings.
And although we--and in the case of Ukraine, NATO--gave Ukraine and israel money and weaponry in their wars, no troops were committed.
The only troops were the Navy members who built a dock on the Mediteranean in Gaza in order to prevent Netanyahu from starving millions...and that is also why other nations have stopped supporting Israel's reign of terror.
Do you understand that the vast majority of Americans most likely disagree with your assessment and opinions about the withdrawal from Afghanistan? Also, the vast majority of Americans disagree with your opinion that Israel has a reign of terror against Hamas and Hezbollah.
 
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To me, Lloyd Austin is a joke. To me, he was a lousy SecDef who cared more about DEI topics and LGBTQ concerns than he did about increasing the lethality of the USA military. Also, Lloyd Austin failed in preventing the extremely stupid and weak way in which our military retreated from Afghanistan.
The actual withdrawal of Afghan is not the role of the Sec of Def. The rest is just more DEI, CRT, LGBTQ culture war canards. Austin is ten zillion times more qualified than a drunkard who at most had a hundred people under him and non profits that went broke. If anyone is DEI, it's Hegseth as just another unqualified white male who looks the part straight off FOXnews. There are a lot of them there.
 
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The actual withdrawal of Afghan is not the role of the Sec of Def.
The SecDef should be one of the president's most trusted military advisor. But, you are giving Lloyd Austin a pass, so to speak, for the stupid and weak way we withdrew from Afghanistan. Also, the accusations of drunkenness towards Hegseth are completely baseless and part of the media's smear tactics against him. The other accusations are also baseless as well.
 
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This is quite possibly the most uninformed opinion from you that I have read. Usually, I respect what you post, Sir. However, the term warfighter is one that military servicemembers actually do use and also use respectfully.
I didn't say they don't use it. I said I thought it was a dumb term. I can only imagine how many cartons of PowerPoint slides and man-years of effort it took at the Pentagon to settle on it.
 
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Do you understand that the vast majority of Americans most likely disagree with your assessment and opinions about the withdrawal from Afghanistan? Also, the vast majority of Americans disagree with your opinion that Israel has a reign of terror against Hamas and Hezbollah.
The vast majority of Americans get their info from tic tock and youtube. When Biden took office there was zero, zilch, no plan for a withdrawal by the Trump admin even though that was to take place in 3 months. The Trump agreement with, the Taliban, not the sovereign nation of Afghanistan who US troops spent blood and toil to prop up, included the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners along with the Taliban leader Abdul Ghani Baradar, who would become the new leader of Afghanistan. The soverign leaders of Afghanistan did not want them released. Trump did it anyway and in Trump fashion denied the release. Biden's fault was not pusing back the withdrawal date again, and make sure the milestones of the agreement which were not being heded by the Taliban under Trump, and no withdrawal until they were. Trump basically set the house on fire and left it to Biden to put it out, and anything that went wrong was on him.
 
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The SecDef should be one of the president's most trusted military advisor. But, you are giving Lloyd Austin a pass, so to speak, for the stupid and weak way we withdrew from Afghanistan. Also, the accusations of drunkenness towards Hegseth are completely baseless and part of the media's smear tactics against him. The other accusations are also baseless as well.
No, he's a drunkard. He's a womanizer. He's a white man DEI hire. Not qualified to run the DOD. And no, it's not the Sec of Def to come up with withdrawal plans. btw, a president's military advisor is the Joint Chiefs of Staff. May want to look at roles before you criticize.
 
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Do you understand that the vast majority of Americans most likely disagree with your assessment and opinions about the withdrawal from Afghanistan? Also, the vast majority of Americans disagree with your opinion that Israel has a reign of terror against Hamas and Hezbollah.
As I wrote before, popular opinions are not necessarily right opinions.
For example, Netanyahu's policies, condemned by the Hague as war crimes, condemned by Pope Francis, and resulting in many European nations and Canada ending support, are right in not being complicit with immorality.

I respect Pope Francis' beliefs on Israel and Gaza more than the entire incoming administration's. It's not even a contest.
 
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But, it shows the hypocrisy of the Senators.
Maybe, maybe not. I think there's a real, substantive difference between showing up drunk to the office in the middle of the day and showing up buzzed for a midnight vote on which you've already made up your mind. That said, I'm not inclined to defend a bunch of senators and if they are hypocrites, so be it. That doesn't mean they're wrong. I've been drunk at work, too - but all I do is make video games. I don't want a SecDef who's inclined to taking those same liberties.
 
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No, he's a drunkard. He's a womanizer. He's a white man DEI hire. Not qualified to run the DOD. And no, it's not the Sec of Def to come up with withdrawal plans. btw, a president's military advisor is the Joint Chiefs of Staff. May want to look at roles before you criticize.
I just saw him described as a DUI hire.
 
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The vast majority of Americans get their info from tic tock and youtube. When Biden took office there was zero, zilch, no plan for a withdrawal by the Trump admin even though that was to take place in 3 months. The Trump agreement with, the Taliban, not the sovereign nation of Afghanistan who US troops spent blood and toil to prop up, included the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners along with the Taliban leader Abdul Ghani Baradar, who would become the new leader of Afghanistan. The soverign leaders of Afghanistan did not want them released. Trump did it anyway and in Trump fashion denied the release. Biden's fault was not pusing back the withdrawal date again, and make sure the milestones of the agreement which were not being heded by the Taliban under Trump, and no withdrawal until they were. Trump basically set the house on fire and left it to Biden to put it out, and anything that went wrong was on him.
That is one way of spinning the history of what happened.
 
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