Examples for our Instruction:

[keras]

You have until January for the AOD you predicted.

I'm not interested in anything else you say until that fails to materialise.

So you don't care which January?

But the Abomination of Desolation, Matthew 24:15, is NOT the next Prophesied event. The new Temple has to be built by the new inhabitants of the holy Land. Which firstly has to be cleared and cleansed by the Day of the Lords fiery wrath.

 

[eclipsenow]

So you don't care which January?

But the Abomination of Desolation, Matthew 24:15, is NOT the next Prophesied event. The new Temple has to be built by the new inhabitants of the holy Land. Which firstly has to be cleared and cleansed by the Day of the Lords fiery wrath.

No - I don't care. I don't accept ANY End Times Table obsessively constructed from the wrong paradigm. Seeing the bible that way is a bit like those kid's picture books where you can only see the true image wearing the right coloured glasses. That is - respecting what the original author was saying to the original audience - and not wearing the WRONG glasses and shoving modern issues and OUR agendas all over the texts!

You're wearing futurist glasses on many passages that simply are not about us.

So when you say I'm demonstrating my hatred 'of the prophetic word' - I just shake my head in amazement.

You're the one who plucks verses out of their original context to their original audience.
You're the one who shuns any decent theological works that explain these texts.
You're the one who ignores how the OT prophets were warning their audience that Assyria and Babylon were coming if Israel and Judah did not repent.
You're the one who hates the fact that these prophets were warning that even OLDER prophecies of judgement from Deuteronomy were about to be fulfilled on their watch - unless their generation repented!
You're the one who ignores how their images of fire and smoke and darkness refer to Deuteronomy 4 where "our God is a consuming fire", which in that chapter means God will let Israel be captured and exiled to the nations.
You're the one who ignores that this also involves the specifics of Assyria and Babylon burning and looting as they plundered Israel and Judah. While you are at it - you also conveniently ignore everything about specific historical circumstances -like the prophecies being about specific ancient nations who committed specific crimes ancient specific generations of Israel or Judah. The prophets took great effort to repeatedly explain what Israel or Judah were up to - and exactly how they were sinning and breaching their Covenant. This isn't just a few chapters here or there - but sometimes up to a third of the book! But you just skip past them - bored with all those ancient details - hunting down the fire imagery to twist those to be all about us!

In other words - you're the one who hates the true prophetic word. To you that message is some stuffy old thing that's not hip because it is not about us and letting us feel like some modern day prophet. But to me it's this comforting message that God does know the future - we can see it all predicted in Deuteronomy 4. It's also this frightening warning that God does take sin seriously, and will act when his people ignore their covenant responsibilities. And while I see most OT prophets in this light - there are also fantastic glimpses of how the Lord Jesus would show up and deal with sin once and for all in there - predicting a new people with a new heart. And even some that glimpse terrible and glorious truths about the Last Day!

But none of this works if we ignore the hermeneutics and context - and now you're going to quote Jesus talking about the Pharisees at me. But while we sometimes get a bit heated in our chats Keras - I'm trying to help. I don't want you to feel the disillusionment with Christianity that any young people might feel who are actually hoodwinked by your blog when your 'prophecies' do not pan out!

Which is why I bother. I also note that some of your posts here are just not being engaged with by other commenters. They've noted your style - and just can't be bothered. But for the record, and for anyone googling these things and coming across your posts here - I feel a responsibility to remind them that you've ALREADY MADE predictions about all this stuff. "By their fruits we shall know them."

TICK TOCK KERAS! You said you had a vision from the Holy Spirit in 2010 that helped you draw up a timetable that concluded the Lord would visibly return in 2029.5. You were so sure you remained 'perfectly confident'. The AOD would be 3.5 years before then which is January 2026. Your timetable requires a CME, then a temple to be built by January 2026. TICK - TOCK - TICK - TOCK - TICK - TOCK....

The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

 

[keras]

. I also note that some of your posts here are just not being engaged with by other commenters. They've noted your style - and just can't be bothered.

It isn't because they can't be bothered, its because what I post is so far out from their beliefs and what they have been taught by their 'wolves in sheep's clothing; any response is impossible. They and you; can't refute the Prophesies I present.
Your MO, is to attack and denigrate, plus flood the threads with stupid cartoons.

I do not know of anyone else who thinks Revelation was only written for the ancient peoples and is merely a homily for us.

the Lord would visibly return in 2029.5

Actually, the earliest Jesus will Return is 2033. Because the 3 1/2 year period of world Satanic control, Rev 13:5, cannot be counted as part of the 2000 year Church age.

 

[eclipsenow]

It isn't because they can't be bothered, its because what I post is so far out from their beliefs and what they have been taught by their 'wolves in sheep's clothing; any response is impossible. They and you; can't refute the Prophesies I present.

Many of us have refuted them, but you do not appear to acknowledge anything you simply do not want to.
You will not take what the texts say on their claims about themselves.
You do not acknowledge that the original authors had their own original historical audience - and how that audience would have heard these prophets speaking to them. What the stuff is all about in the first place!

Your futurist blinkers come in and scream at you. "It CAN'T be those ancient nations being judged by those Assyrians or Babylonians! It just CAN'T be because I've got this wonderful agenda to shove all over the text!" And so rather than actually deal with the evidence put to you - you just call it 'stupid cartoons' or the arrogance of the 'learned' or something - and move on to repeat and reassert. That is not valid argument.

I do not know of anyone else who thinks Revelation was only written for the ancient peoples and is merely a homily for us.

Hmmm - insular reading habits much? You've just written off maybe half of all modern theology - but a majority if you consider the historical legacy of theology.

Also - "merely a homily" - so what are the gospels and epistles? "Merely homilies"?
Do you need scripture to be about you and your theories to be relevant to you?
Can't you learn from the Spirit inspired letters between Christians back in the first century - and by understanding the particulars of their messages - extract the right encouragements and rebukes for today?

Actually, the earliest Jesus will Return is 2033.

That's absolutely unacceptable! You told us that your vision led you to believe it was all about 2029.5. You told us you remained 'perfectly confident' because this was not just biblical interpretation, but all part of your vision from 2010. And this is what your 'vision' told you.

January 2020 AD - 29.5 AD = 1990.5 years since the commencement of Jesus’ Ministry. 1990.5 + 4000 = 5990.5 years, is where we are now. 5990.5 + 9.5 = 6000 years 2020 AD + 9.5 = 2029.5 AD Exactly 2000 years for the present Church age, until Jesus Returns. 4000 since Abraham, 6000 since Adam. Next comes the 1000 year reign of Jesus. 7000 years is God’s decreed time for mankind. Those who have been found worthy will go into Eternity with God. Revelation 22:1-5 The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations​

You have accused us of 'blatantly rejecting the prophetic word' - and yet now that your original AOD is only 12 months away - seem to be happy to admit you're just making it up as you go along?​

 

[keras]

Isaiah 46:8-10 Remember this and abandon hope, consider it well you rebels: Remember all that happened long ago – for I am God and there is none other. From the beginning I reveal the end, from ancient times what is yet to be. I say: My purpose stands, I shall accomplish all that I plan.

Isaiah 46:12-13 Listen to Me, you stubborn of heart, for whom victory is far off; I will bring My victory near and My deliverance will not be delayed. In Zion, I will grant deliverance for Israel, My glory.

Isaiah 47:1-5 Come down and sit in the dust, you virgin daughter of Babylon. Never again will you be called beautiful, your shame will be exposed. I shall take vengeance and show clemency to none, says the Holy One of Israel, the Redeemer of His people. Daughter of the ungodly, go into darkness and sit in silence for never again will you be able to lord it over the nations.

Isaiah 47:11-15 Persist in your idol worship and all the sorceries that you have relied upon, maybe they will yet help you? But disaster will come to you, suddenly and unforeseen and you will be unable to conjure it away. So much for your wise people, those who foretell prosperity and safety, they will become as stubble when the fire burns them up. It will not be like a fire to get warm by, but a devastating flame that they cannot escape from. Ref: REB. Some verses abridged.

‘from ancient times, I reveal what is to be’, We can know God’s Plans from the prophets. Amos 3:7, Revelation 1:1, Isaiah 45:19 Also what happened to Israel in the past, symbolizes what will happen in the future. 1 Corinthians 10:11

‘In Zion, Israel will receive deliverance’, The Lord’s people, those who love Him and follow His laws, will live in the holy Land. Psalm 15:1-5, Isaiah 62:1-5 But first the Land must be cleared and cleansed, as the unrighteous cannot remain there. Ezekiel 20:46-48, Jer. 31:1-6

‘daughter of Babylon – lord over the nations’, In these end times, this may refer to the USA, the worlds richest and most powerful nation. Isaiah 18:1-7, Jeremiah 50:22-25, Jeremiah 51:6-10, Zechariah 2:6-7

‘I shall take vengeance and show clemency to none’, The whole world will be judged and those who refuse to acknowledge the Lord will be punished. Hebrews 10:26-27, Deuteronomy 32:39-42, 1 Peter 4:17

‘a sudden and unforeseen disaster of a devastating fire’, A coronal mass ejection of unprecedented magnitude will strike the earth, literally fulfilling all the many prophecies about the forthcoming terrible Day of the Lords vengeance and wrath. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1, Jeremiah 4:23-26

Acts 13:41 Look you scoffers, I am doing a deed in your day, a deed that you will not believe when you are told of it. Habakkuk 1:5, 2 Peter 3:3-7

 

[Aaron112]

Acts 13:41 Look you scoffers, I am doing a deed in your day, a deed that you will not believe when you are told of it. Habakkuk 1:5, 2 Peter 3:3-7

There's no end of the mockers and scoffers and liars and false teachers and false prophets; they are permitted and encouraged daily it seems, helped to keep promoting the false messages.

 

[eclipsenow]

Isaiah 46:8-10

You have not justified why you read the vast majority of these Old Testament verses the way you do. True to type - you ignore, avoid, and then just repeat and reassert as if you've got nothing to address.

That's not an honest or credible way to 'debate' these matters.
(It's not even a debate - it's just spamming!)

Try answering these questions when reading Old Testament prophecy:
Who was the prophet speaking to and about?
Is there an existing precedent for what they are saying or the images they are using?
Do they have in mind scriptures and prophecies and covenants that are even older?
Are they themselves in their generation fulfilling even older prophecy?
What is their specific context and concern?
Are they lamenting the specific historical sins of a specific people group? If we try to make this about future 'versions' of these people groups - today's nations that just happen to be in the same areas - do the accusations still stand or are they nonsensical?
EG: Are they worshipping those pagan gods still or doing the same things against God's people? Is today even relevant for what the OT prophet is talking about?
Or (vastly more likely) are they acting in judgement on their generation?
What evidence do you have from the passages and historical period you are referring to that you know how to read this?
How do you know what you think you know about the bible? Is it relevant? Is it TRUE? Can you SHOW YOUR WORK!?
Or instead of practising exegesis, have you fallen into the trap of eisegesis?

 

[eclipsenow]

There's no end of the mockers and scoffers and liars and false teachers and false prophets; they are permitted and encouraged daily it seems, helped to keep promoting the false messages.

I hope you are not equating my scepticism about Keras being a self-appointed prophet with scepticism about the gospel itself!?
I do believe the Lord will return.
It's just I'm with the majority of Protestant Reformers and the great Amillennial theologians of today who say we do not and cannot know when! The bible simply does not tell us. It's not there to answer all our little questions and create endless debates about end-times-tables.

Jesus said we cannot know when THAT DAY will happen (Matthew 24.) He warned them what to look for when the temple was about to fall in AD70 - and said it was a local thing they could flee. That is - the fall of the temple was predictable, local, escapable and imminent. (Within 40 years or that generation.) But THAT DAY will be utterly unpredictable, universal, and inescapable! Three qualities bound to frustrate our tendency to want all our curiosity satisfied. But that's not the bible's purpose - instead our godliness and Christ-like nature is meant to be.

 

[keras]

You have not justified why you read the vast majority of these Old Testament verses the way you do.

I do it because we do have a future and we are not, or should not be in the dark about what God has planned for our future.
Those majority of OT Prophesies are not fulfilled. The only you can construe their fulfilment, is to make them mean something they plainly don't.

Will the world just continue on, more or less as we are now? Or will there be a 'reset of Civilization' similar to what happened in Noah's time?
I believe the latter, as God did destroy the antediluvian peoples and He says He will do it again; this time with fire. 2 Peter 3:1-7, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, the event which will come as a thief and dramatically change the world, Revelation 6:12-17

It seems that Noah's society was quite similar to our own today. Just getting on with life as normal. But the similarity that both societies have that our Creator God cannot allow to continue, is how the majority of the people have no regard for and just ignore their Maker.

A non Christian may ask; Why are we here? They fail to read God's Word that states His intention: To have a people who believe in the Creator God and have chosen of their free will, to keep His Commandments. They will be the ones who will go with God into Eternity, the rest of mankind will not. Revelation 20:11-15 and Revelation 21:1-7

Malachi 3:16-18 Those who feared the Lord talked together and the Lord paid heed and listened. A record was Written before Him of those who feared His and respected His Name. [the Book of Life]
They will be Mine, says the Lord of Hosts, My own precious possession on the Day that I appoint, for I shall spare them as a man spares the son who serves him.
Once more it will be known who are righteous and who are wicked, between the servants of God and those who do not serve Him.

 

[eclipsenow]

I do it because we do have a future and we are not, or should not be in the dark about what God has planned for our future.

It looks like Jesus does not agree! How many times does he have to tell you before you'll believe him?
We cannot give in to impatience and just live ungodly lives.
We've got to stay faithful.
But we do not know!
We cannot know!
And the irony is you try to co-opt the very verses that SHOW we cannot know to your ends. But of course - you do so poorly - just by mere assertion - without any compelling lines of evidence.

Matt 24

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Paul says the Thessalonians KNOW not to even ask about that day - but to stay as children of the light - living for Jesus.
1 Thess 5:
Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5 You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6 So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober. 7 For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. 8 But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet.

It's not about knowing dates - but knowing a person. Trusting in the Lord and putting on his mighty armour so that we can stand.
Dates? Timetables! Absolutely poppycock designed to titillate those bored with normal sound doctrine and self-disciplined living. But arguing over dates - guessing the future - thinking we're like some Dan Brown hero? It all seems so much more interesting than explaining the gospel to people who don't know the Lord yet. Especially if we get to judge other people as "hating the prophetic word" every time we cannot justify our own poor theology!

Those majority of OT Prophesies are not fulfilled. The only you can construe their fulfilment, is to make them mean something they plainly don't.

See? You just assert I'm wrong and they are unfulfilled - but have you slowed down enough to actually research the question checklist I gave you for just ONE Old Testament prophetic book? Just one? There is no evidence that this post is anything but denial, then re-spamming.

 

[keras]

You just assert I'm wrong and they are unfulfilled -

What happened in the past bears no relation to what we are told will happen in our future. Dramatic and world shaking events with cosmic signs, that have never yet occurred. But they can and they will, and your dismissal of it all, is just 'head in the sand'.

Re the timing; The Day when Jesus will Return, - that will be known; as it will come exactly 1260 days after the Temple is desecrated by the 'beast'. Paul says in 2 Thess 2:4, that the glorious Return cannot come until after the "beast' has done that.
But the forthcoming terrible Day of the Lords fiery wrath, is the one coming unexpectedly, shocking and terrifying everyone.

 

[eclipsenow]

What happened in the past bears no relation to what we are told will happen in our future.

In one sense I agree with your statement! The picture of the "Day of the Lord" accumulates throughout the Old Testament - simply because there are many "Days of the Lord" that happen in the OT as various judgements are fulfilled against Israel and her enemies.

But the whole picture does eventually show us that God DOES judge - even his people - and that it is very grim when God judges.

SUNDAY SCHOOL STUFF: There are a few rare Old Testament passages that glance forward to the Last Day - and show us that this will be a whole different level of judgement and salvation. But generally speaking, the OT judgements are fulfilling Deuteronomy. I've taught Scripture before - and been involved in Sunday School programs. This is in basic Anglican Sunday School and Scripture material! We look at the 'scary mountain' where God makes his 'Covenant deal' with his people - and explain what a legal contract is. Then later on when we cover one of these prophets - we remind them of the 'scary mountain' scene and ask them what Israel should have remembered.

Straight away a bunch of hands go up! They get it!

Dramatic and world shaking events with cosmic signs,

Many of these 'signs' are metaphors - or even parables.
Like the 5 parables Jesus tells at the end of Matthew 24 and into 25 to illustrate that we WILL NOT KNOW when HE returns.

But then many of these world shaking events with cosmic signs simply do not split apart the way you want them to.

Re the timing; The Day when Jesus will Return, - that will be known; as it will come exactly 1260 days after the Temple is desecrated

Matthew 24 disagrees. It's not fire that shows up unexpectedly. It's the Lord himself!

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Paul says the Thessalonians KNOW not to even ask about that day - but to stay as children of the light - living for Jesus.
Paul says the Day of the Lord - not the day of fire.

1 Thess 5:
Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5 You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6 So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober. 7 For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. 8 But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet.

2 THESSALONIANS 1:4 - the Lord returns WITH the fire

“Therefore, among God’s churches we boast about your perseverance and faith in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring. 5 All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. 6 God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you 7 and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. 8 He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might 10 on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you."

 

[keras]

Many of these 'signs' are metaphors - or even parables.

Just your biased opinion.

Matthew 24 disagrees. It's not fire that shows up unexpectedly. It's the Lord himself!

Matthew 24 is a sequence of end times events.
The Lord sends fire on His unexpected Day off wrath, but at His expected Return, fire is not used to win the battle of Armageddon.

2 THESSALONIANS 1:4 - the Lord returns WITH the fire

“Therefore, among God’s churches we boast about your perseverance and faith in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring. 5 All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. 6 God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you 7 and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. 8 He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might 10 on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you."

You totally miss the true understanding of this Prophecy.
It does refer to the Lords Day of fiery wrath, when He punishes all who do not obey the Gospel....
Proved by how He is revealed only to His own people. As per revelation 14:1

Many years and after all the Prophesies from Rev 7 to Rev 19:19, have taken place, He will Return, seen by all. Rev 1:7
Proved by how Jesus will Return gloriously, with the Trumpet blast of God, 1 Thess 4:16, accompanied by the armies of heaven. Revelation 19:11-21

 

[eclipsenow]

Just your biased opinion.

Matthew 24 is a sequence of end times events.
The Lord sends fire on His unexpected Day off wrath, but at His expected Return, fire is not used to win the battle of Armageddon.

Matthew 24 clearly says it's when the LORD himself returns! The parables afterwards show that judgment and destruction happens in the surprise return of the Lord. The lazy workers, bad tenants, lazy bridesmaids - they're all parables for staying vigilant in our faith so that we do not fall away and get caught unprepared when the Lord suddenly returns in judgement.

Here it is again in 1 THESSALONIANS 4. Lord himself returns = thief in night = judgement day

“...For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words. 5 Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman,"

 

[keras]

Matthew 24 clearly says it's when the LORD himself returns! The parables afterwards show that judgment and destruction happens in the surprise return of the Lord. The lazy workers, bad tenants, lazy bridesmaids - they're all parables for staying vigilant in our faith so that we do not fall away and get caught unprepared when the Lord suddenly returns in judgement.

The Judgment when Jesus Returns is only to separate the nations. Matthew 25:31-33 [verse 46 refers to the final Judgment, after the Millennium]

Those Parables apply to people now and for us to be ready for what must happen before Jesus Returns. Specifically,; be ready for the Lords terrible Day of fiery wrath, when He resets our civilization in a similar event as what happened in the days of Noah.

In Revelation 19:15, it refers to the Lords wrath as a past event,

 

[eclipsenow]

The Judgment when Jesus Returns is only to separate the nations. Matthew 25:31-33 [verse 46 refers to the final Judgment, after the Millennium]

That's what you assert - it's not what the text actually says. See - if this was some known event after 1000 years - don't you think people might have a clue that it was coming?

Instead - we see that Judgement Day is like a thief in the night. Matthew 24 says it clearly and then in like 4 parables following into 25, and 1 Thessalonians 4 says it clearly.

Here's a hint: use the clear to interpret the less clear.

Use the plainer, more direct passages of scripture to interpret the obviously symbolic.

Again - have you EVER read ANY of the other apocalypses of the time?
(Hint: they're all about dressing up the politics of the time in theological picture-language - dragons, demons, etc.)

Those Parables apply to people now and for us to be ready for what must happen before Jesus Returns. Specifically,; be ready for the Lords terrible Day of fiery wrath,

"Specifically,; be ready for the Lords terrible Day of fiery wrath, "

I'm so over that phrase. It's so melodramatic and not actually found in scripture! It's just you - through and through. So what? We could NUKE ourselves worse than your "terrible Day of fiery wrath!" From what I've calculated before - a full scale nuclear war would be FAR worse than your "terrible Day of fiery wrath". Unless of course you've upgraded and changed it - just as you've upgraded and changed your end-times-table as I knew you would as we got closer to the deadlines in the original one!

You have 12 months.

when He resets our civilization in a similar event as what happened in the days of Noah.

You see? You can't even get that right. When he returns it's judgement day and eternity! Just asserting it isn't so does not PROVE it isn't so. The clearer parts of the bible interpret Revelation, not the other way around.

THAT DAY is Judgement Day - when he returns like a thief in the night, like a strongman, like the master tenant, like the bridegroom, like the Lord on his throne to separate the sheep and the goats and the wheat and the tares. It's quite 'funny' how Matthew does not mention a millennium in all these verses after each other. All these follow up parables are about his return - and all are focussed on how it is unexpected and catastrophic.

MATTHEW 24

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

Then strongman, master with weeping and gnashing of teeth, bridegroom, bags of gold, and finally....

MATTHEW 25
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the ANGELS with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left... Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... ...41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

I honestly don't know how Matthew could have made it any clearer in the collection of Jesus sayings he presents here.

When Jesus returns - it's sudden, unexpected, and catastrophic.

Guess what else returns like a thief? Fire! But not your silly nerfed little CME - but UNIVERSE UPGRADING PURIFYING FIRE!

2 Peter 3

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare. 11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.”

Now I know you're going to merely repeat and assert and repeat and assert - like Dustin Hoffman's 'Rainman' needing his 12 Cheetos - that this is "The terrible Day of fiery wrath, The terrible Day of fiery wrath, The terrible Day of fiery wrath, The terrible Day of fiery wrath!"

But just repeating your assertions is spam. It's not actually unpacking them and giving us new evidence. It's not showing - it's just telling. That's not how any theologian I have ever won any respect.

2 Peter 3 is the stuff of eternity - of Revelation with the New Jerusalem coming down to be fused into this physical reality - of this world being instantaneously upgraded as we read in 1 Cor 15. There is just no room for it being some natural disaster that civilisation then rebuilds from in this space-time as we know it. It's a whole new universe.

Oh look! It's a trumpet again! Boy - this Day of the Lord sure sounds like Jesus returning and upgrading the universe and judging the dead all in one event!

1 CORINTHIANS 15:50
“I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.” “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?”

 

[keras]

then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.” “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?”

I have proved by Revelation 21:4, that this happens after the Millennium. And if people deny the Millennium, or think we are in it now, they are just in a mire of delusion and false beliefs.

THAT DAY is Judgement Day - when he returns like a thief in the night,

Jesus does not Return 'like a thief'. Such a notion is totally wrong, as the descriptions of the glorious Return, when every eye will see Him, will not be a surprise, as then He will call the two Witnesses to Him, Rev 11:12 and also all the faithful Christians to Jerusalem. 1 Thess 4:16-17, Matthew 24:30-31.
It will be the forthcoming shocking and unexpected Day when the Lord sends His fiery wrath. Psalms 11:4-8, +

 

[eclipsenow]

I have proved by Revelation 21:4, that this happens after the Millennium. And if people deny the Millennium, or think we are in it now, they are just in a mire of delusion and false beliefs.

You have proved nothing because you know nothing about how to read Revelation. What other apocalyptic symbolism of John's time have you read? What do you know about how the genre actually works? When are you going to admit that Chapter 1 shows John was writing to his generation as much as Paul was writing to the Galatians or Ephesians?

Jesus does not Return 'like a thief'.

That's obviously news to Matthew, Jesus, Paul writing to the Thessalonians, and Peter!

Such a notion is totally wrong, as the descriptions of the glorious Return,

You see - it does not matter how emphatically you try to assert your opinion that Jesus does not return like a thief. (EG: "totally wrong"). Nor does it matter how much flowery language you dress up your assertions in. ("glorious Return", "terrible Day of fiery wrath" "terrible Day of fiery wrath" "terrible Day of fiery wrath" "terrible Day of fiery wrath" "terrible Day of fiery wrath" etc).

What actually matters is have you dealt with the text.

You grab one verse out of a totally different genre of writing and slap it over the plain teaching of the rest of the New Testament! There are MANY ways to read Revelation's Millennium and associated verses. There are not that many ways to read the Return verses I've quoted to you!

when every eye will see Him, will not be a surprise,

Yes it will. The verses I've quoted to you CLEARLY state that when the Lord returns - it's as a total surprise and shock to the world - and its also judgement day. There's no escaping that - no matter how many other scattered verses you try to slap down over it.

as then He will call the two Witnesses to Him, Rev 11:12

Again - without respecting the genre - you have no way to understand what's happening in Revelation - nor do you have the biblical mandate to just overturn the PLAIN reading of the Return verses.

and also all the faithful Christians to Jerusalem. 1 Thess 4:16-17,

That's actually one of MY verses not one of yours.

13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.​

It's one of my verses because of the context - something you're not that big on I'm afraid. Because Paul has not finished there! He immediately continues and says in the next chapter...

Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5 You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6 So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober. 7 For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. 8 But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet. 9 For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. 10 He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him. 11 Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.​

In other words - thank you for highlighting 1 Thess 4 because it feeds directly into chapter 5 which shows he returns like a thief - and we do NOT know dates - but we are not unprepared if we continue in the faith.

So what we learn from 1 Thess 4 and 5 is the trumpet sounds, the Lord returns like a thief, the dead are raised to return with him like the people running out to celebrate the return of their Caesar or General, and his people are saved FOREVER and the enemy judged.

The Lord's return is utterly unpredictable - and it all happens together! As I have been trying to point out to you for the last 4 or 5 years.

YOU just proved it!

Matthew 24:30-31.
It will be the forthcoming shocking and unexpected Day when the Lord sends His fiery wrath. Psalms 11:4-8, +

There are a number of ways of reading those verses - but a CME is not even a candidate.

I'll remind you again.

You said you had a vision from the Holy Spirit in 2010 that helped you draw up a timetable that concluded the Lord would visibly return in 2029.5. The AOD would be 3.5 years before then which is January 2026. You were 'perfectly confident' this timetable would happen. So you better just check in with your 'vision' and remind it that it had better get busy! There needs to be a CME, then a temple to be built in Israel, and then an AOD by January 2026. Tick tock Keras! TICK TOCK!
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

 

[keras]

You have proved nothing because you know nothing about how to read Revelation. What other apocalyptic symbolism of John's time have you read? What do you know about how the genre actually works? When are you going to admit that Chapter 1 shows John was writing to his generation as much as Paul was writing to the Galatians or Ephesians?

Apocalyptic symbolism.
A euphemism for those who dislike the idea that they may actually have to face difficult times and scary end times events.

So what we learn from 1 Thess 4 and 5 is the trumpet sounds, the Lord returns like a thief, the dead are raised to return with him like the people running out to celebrate the return of their Caesar or General, and his people are saved FOREVER and the enemy judged.

This is confusion, as Paul is talking about the Return in 1 Thess 4:16-17, but Ch 5 is about the next Prophesied event, The Lords Day of vengeance and wrath:
Luke 17:29-30 On the day that Sodom was destroyed, fire and sulphur rained upon them and killed them all. It will be like that again when the Son of Man is revealed. Amos 4:11-12
Matthew 24:37-42 As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be when the Son of Man comes. In the days before the flood, they ate, drank and married until the day that Noah entered the ark, they knew nothing until the flood came and swept them all away. That is how it will be again when the Son of Man comes. In His vengeance and wrath, not in His glory.
Genesis 9:11-14 My covenant to never again destroy all living creatures by a flood is confirmed by the sign of the rainbow.
Deuteronomy 32:22 & 34-35 I have sealed in My storehouse, ready for the Day of punishment and vengeance, a fire that will be set ablaze by My anger. It will envelope the world in flames, burning to the depths of the earth. Jeremiah 50:25
Psalm 110:1-6....I shall make Your enemies Your footstool....In glorious majesty, You judge the nations, shattering the wicked throughout the world.

Isaiah 24:18-23 On that Day, the Lord will punish in heaven the host of heaven and on earth the leaders of the nations are caught and punished. The sun and moon will be darkened, for the glory of the Lord will be in Jerusalem and is revealed to the elders of His people.
2 Peter 3:5-7 & 10....the world before Noah was destroyed by a great flood. Now, by God’s Word the present heavens and earth are reserved for burning, kept for the Day of judgement when the godless will be destroyed. That Day will come unexpectedly, the sky will dissipate with a great noise and the earth will be enveloped in flames. All its inhabitants will be tested.
Isaiah 66:1-6 My people are oppressed and afflicted and evil people displease Me, they say: Let the Lord come, we do not believe in Him. Therefore, the noise you can hear is the Lord dealing retribution to His foes. Romans 1:18, Hebrews 10:27
Matthew 24:40-44 There will be two men in a field, one will be taken the other left, two women at the mill, one will be taken, the other left. Keep awake, therefore for the Lord will come unexpectedly.
Isaiah 63:1-6 The Lord comes from the godless nations, in His power and majesty, He tramples them in His fury, their blood spills out and splashes His garments.

At the Return He comes in blood splashed garments. As Almighty God, Revelation 16:14
2 Thessalonians 1:6-10...the Day the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in flaming fire….He will reveal His glory among all believers. Revelation 14:1
What we can understand from the above Bible passages, is that the Day of the Lord, when the Son of Man takes action, is not Jesus’ Return as the Word of God, for the Millennium reign. At the Return: ‘all will see Him’, not as in this Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, where He is not seen: Psalms 18:11, Luke 3:17, but ‘His glory will be revealed to all believers’. 2 Thessalonians 1:10, Revelation 7:9-11, 14:1
God promised to ‘never again flood the earth’, but He has ‘stored up a fire that will envelope the earth in flames’, a worldwide judgement/punishment, vividly described by all the prophets.
This terrible fire and devastation will come upon the world unexpectedly, ‘While they are saying: All is peaceful, all secure, then destruction is upon them’. 1 Thess. 5:3 Huge numbers will be killed by the fire, earthquakes and the resulting famines afterward. Jeremiah 9:22, Isaiah 34:1-8, Ezekiel 30:2-5
The Lord is not seen on that Day, but His people are saved and protected, [not raptured] Isaiah 30:26b, Isaiah 43:2, Zechariah 9:5-16
Then, as in Ezekiel 20:33-38...by My outpoured wrath, [The Day of wrath] I shall bring you out of the nations and gather you back to Israel. The Lord is: ‘Waiting to show you His favour’, and to bless His true believing people as they fulfill the promises to the Patriarchs and their destiny: ‘to be a light to the nations’. Isaiah 49:8, Matthew 5:4-16

 

[eclipsenow]

Apocalyptic symbolism.
A euphemism for those who dislike the idea that they may actually have to face difficult times and scary end times events.

This is what C. S. Lewis calls a Bulverism - attempting to psychoanalyse why I am wrong - rather than proving that I am wrong.

Back on the genre of Revelation. There are many non-canonical apocalypses. I have not studied them myself. But as you know, the theologians I know and read have. (Those people you so kindly imply are Pharisees - just because you don't have the degrees they have.)

• 1 Enoch (although considered to be a deuterocanonical text within the Beta Israel Jewish community)
• 2 Enoch
• 3 Enoch
• Apocalypse of Abraham
• Apocalypse of Adam
• Apocalypse of Moses
• Apocalypse of Sedrach
• Apocalypse of Zephaniah
• Apocalypse of Zerubbabel
• Aramaic Apocalypse
• Gabriel's Revelation
• Genesis Apocryphon
• Greek Apocalypse of Baruch
• Greek Apocalypse of Daniel
• Greek Apocalypse of Ezra
• Sefer Elijah
• Syriac Apocalypse of Baruch

This is confusion, as Paul is talking about the Return in 1 Thess 4:16-17, but Ch 5 is about the next Prophesied event, The Lords Day of vengeance and wrath:

Please demonstrate where Paul switches subjects? It's all the one subject - the return of the Lord.

EXACTLY as these following passages also are!

It's right before your eyes. It's in Matthew 24 and 25.

The Day of the Lord's Return IS judgement and salvation. These cannot be separated out?

I'm so confused how you possibly divorce the one from the other when it is repeated again and again and again and again all through the New Testament?

Luke 17:29-30 On the day that Sodom was destroyed, fire and sulphur rained upon them and killed them all. It will be like that again when the Son of Man is revealed.

See? Not everyone is left behind to be burned or drowned - depending on which story is being referenced.
Some are TAKEN = saved!

We absolutely cannot separate out the Lord's Return from both Judgement AND Salvation! Not without destroying the plain reading of the text! Ultimately it's talking about having a committed faith and not being thrown off course - not looking back like Lot's wife.

Luke 17:​

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22 Then he said to his disciples, “The time is coming when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it. 23 People will tell you, ‘There he is!’ or ‘Here he is!’ Do not go running off after them. 24 For the Son of Man in his day[d] will be like the lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other. 25 But first he must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.​

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26 “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.​

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28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.​

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30 “It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 31 On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. 32 Remember Lot’s wife! 33 Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35 Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.”​

Matthew 24:37-42 As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be when the Son of Man comes. In the days before the flood, they ate, drank and married until the day that Noah entered the ark, they knew nothing until the flood came and swept them all away. That is how it will be again when the Son of Man comes. In His vengeance and wrath, not in His glory.

And again....

Matt 24:​

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36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.​

Deuteronomy 32:22 &

Woah there! You forgot the context which also makes it clear this is God's judgement as a consuming fire (Deut 4) which is displayed when he lets Israel be captured by the nations through normal human warfare!

So from Deut 32 - I note you selected only the fire bits - and not the warfare bits? Selective eisegesis again Keras? Tut tut!

The opposite approach to Scripture is eisegesis, which is the interpretation of a passage based on a subjective, non-analytical reading. The word eisegesis literally means “to lead into,” which means the interpreter injects his own ideas into the text, making it mean whatever he wants.​

“I will heap calamities on them
and spend my arrows against them.
24 I will send wasting famine against them,
consuming pestilence and deadly plague;
I will send against them the fangs of wild beasts,
the venom of vipers that glide in the dust.
25 In the street the sword will make them childless;
in their homes terror will reign.
The young men and young women will perish,
the infants and those with gray hair.

That's about all the eisegesis I can tolerate right now.

But what happened to responding in defence of your original prophecy?
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