The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

[Phil G]

I'm sorry but the moon has it's own light.

If you believe that men went to the moon, do you not think they would have evidence that it is its own source of light? Well they don't. They have evidence that it is sunlight reflecting from the moons surface. The moon has day and night just like the earth. And they saw that for themselves. You're again being completely inconsistent in what you say.

 

[Phil G]

What photos ?

When Charles Duke went to the moon, photos were taken of the globe earth from space. Other Apollo missions also took photos of the globe earth. You say you believe they went to the moon. Do you not believe the photos they took of the globe earth?

 

[Strong in Him]

I do not take anyone for fools & I know how you've all try to help me & I did appreciate it so much & I did try hard for a while but something just kept dragging me back to the same mind set

Which is why you were absolutely correct to say that you would struggle. If someone has believed something for many years and then suddenly been challenged about that belief - or provided with evidence to the contrary - it will take time to "unlearn" your previous beliefs. Look at Saul of Tarsus; he was a Pharisee, absolutely zealous about his faith, believed that Jesus was a false Messiah and persecuted the Apostles. Then he met Jesus for himself and started preaching that he was the Messiah, but went to Arabia for a while. He needed to think about his new faith. If Jews confronted him and said, "you used to be one of us, what happened?" he needed to understand how the OT prophesied that Jesus was the Messiah. He needed to know the facts to be able to argue against, and maybe persuade, them.
You said that flat earth was a load of nonsense, vowed to ask the Lord for help if you were struggling and wrote "never mind, I will get there."

Somebody once gave an illustration about sin - though it also applies to any bad habit that has had a hold on us. They said it was like wrapping a rubber band round your finger; you keep doing it and it gets tighter and tighter. After a while it will begin to hurt so you take/cut it off. You experience instant relief, and freedom, but it will take a while for all the marks left by the rubber band to go.
THAT is when you (we) should be asking the Lord for help. If you were only trying in your own strength, then it's not surprising that the fist video that you see on YouTube causes you to give in. You are someone who is, clearly, influenced by what they find on YouTube - and as you have previously searched for clips that promoted a Flat Earth, the computer remembered this (don't ask me how) and thought, "oh, she wants further videos that promote a Flat Earth." That's what I believe that was - NOT God "showing you the truth", but a computer giving you more of the things you had previously looked for.

I guess it's true what they say 'once a flat earther always a flat earther'

Saul of Tarsus could have said, "once a Pharisee, always a Pharisee" - and he had to train far harder to be a Pharisee than you did to be a Flat Earther. But what happened - he met Jesus and saw the Truth.

it's very hard to break away from,

That is why you need to ask the Lord to help you - which you said you would do.

when it came to believing in the globe it was like as if I were trying to make myself believe that which I knew not to be true.

No, you had accepted it was true - hence your statement that you understood that Flat Earth was a load of rubbish.
All that happened was that you went onto YouTube, were provided with videos that argued against it and accepted them without question. You didn't go looking for them because you didn't need to. If I go onto YouTube now I will see clips, and links, to Christian music, making jewellery, magic tricks, soap clips and so on - because they are things I have searched for in the past. It doesn't mean that I should say "these are coming up for a reason; it is God showing me I should watch more soaps"

 

[Apple Sky]

Are you saying that nothing on MSM is real or true?

Put it like this most newspapers are glorified comics.

 

[Phil G]

Put it like this most newspapers are glorified comics.

Evidence please....If you just make statements like that then it's obvious you don't think for yourself. I read a report in the national MSM of Ireland (RTE) about the weather conditions around the country. It wasn't fake. It's reality.

 

[Apple Sky]

Evidence please....If you just make statements like that then it's obvious you don't think for yourself. I read a report in the national MSM of Ireland (RTE) about the weather conditions around the country. It wasn't fake. It's reality.

Ha! Then half the time they get it wrong.

 

[Strong in Him]

This tells me they have faked it with the help of the big wigs like NASA who want to discredit flat earth.

Many people work at NASA; I would think that most, if not all, are scientists.
Scientists are concerned with facts; they study evidence, formulate theories and then do experiments which prove, or disprove, those theories. I am sure there have been many experiments which failed, or which did not prove what scientists had previously thought. When that happens then scientists re-think their theories or how they used, or interpreted, previous data.
Anyone who was being paid to study science/astronomy/space exploration who fabricated evidence or made up data to support their own beliefs would be discredited and sacked.

Science is about knowledge and what can be proved, NOT about beliefs. Which is why if I say, "I know Jesus, talk to him, listen to him and know that he loves me", they can't disprove that. A relationship cannot be disproved. They might say, "judging by your words and behaviour it would seem that your relationship is not very good", but they cannot prove that it doesn't exist.

The shape of the earth is something that has been researched and investigated and a conclusion has been reached based on the results of those investigations. These facts cannot be changed.
Someone might say, "I believe that the earth is flat" - fine; that is their belief. Is that belief based on evidence? No, but it is that person's belief and they are entitled to hold it,

 

[Strong in Him]

What photos ?

Google it.

 

[Strong in Him]

Put it like this most newspapers are glorified comics.

Which is why you quote them, I suppose?
A lot of hard-working journalists would see that as an insult.

 

[Apple Sky]

If you believe that men went to the moon, do you not think they would have evidence that it is its own source of light? Well they don't. They have evidence that it is sunlight reflecting from the moons surface. The moon has day and night just like the earth. And they saw that for themselves. You're again being completely inconsistent in what you say.

Then why does it say in Genesis that God created two great lights ?

 

[Phil G]

Then why does it say in Genesis that God created two great lights ?

The Hebrew word means "luminaries" not necessarily lights as in their own source of light. And a luminary can be something which reflects light. It doesn't have to be its own source of light. Research it for yourself.

 

[Lost4words]

I'm sorry but the moon has it's own light.

No, sorry, it hasnt.

 

[Lost4words]

Then why does it say in Genesis that God created two great lights ?

Interpretation.....

You interpret it wrongly sorry...

 

[Apple Sky]

Which is why you quote them, I suppose?
A lot of hard-working journalists would see that as an insult.

The MSM only report what they are told to report,, who do you think owns the all the MSM.

 

[Phil G]

The MSM only report what they are told to report,, who do you think owns the all the MSM.

So who told RTE to report on the weather in Ireland and why would that be fake? I don't see that report as being a glorified comic. It's reality and truth.

 

[Strong in Him]

The MSM only report what they are told to report,

Oh of course; there speaks a conspiracy theorist.

 

[Apple Sky]

Research it for yourself.

I don't have too, if God tells me that he created two great lights, who am I to dispute him.

 

[Phil G]

I don't have too, if God tells me that he created two great lights, who am I to dispute him.

Once again you prove you are not prepared to do the research. God does NOT tell you that He created two great lights. That's an English translation of the Hebrew word "maor" which also means "luminary"

Strong's Hebrew: 3974. מָאוֹר (maor) -- Light, luminary

biblehub.com

 

[Apple Sky]

So who told RTE to report on the weather in Ireland and why would that be fake?

And then why do they 9 times out 10 get it wrong ?

 

[Phil G]

And then why do they 9 times out 10 get it wrong ?

That's a forecast, not a report of actual conditions now.