The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

[Apple Sky]

All the time. You’re untrustworthiness hurts the body of Christ

But I haven't been untrusting the only thing I've done is change my mind about the shape of the earth not about the moon walks.

 

[Phil G]

But I haven't been untrusting the only thing I've done is change my mind about the shape of the earth not about the moon walks.

No, you’ve gone back in your word by posting Dubay videos when said you wouldn't because he bans people who talk about Jesus and says negative things about God. You don’t believe fellow flat earthers because they’re “atheists to the core”, then you believe another (the very same Dubay you said you would no longer post his videos) who is also atheist to the core. These are just two examples of your lack of honesty & double standards. You basically show yourself up as somebody who lacks a conscience.

When you have one poster indicating you provoke people to have threads shut down, another saying you would be barred from other forums, another saying your credibility is gone and me saying that you’re untrustworthy, at some stage you have to realise that your attitude stinks & do something about it!

And the people I'm referring to here have tried their best to help you and shown great patience. I have tried to be patient and understanding but sorry, I can't do it anymore.

Before yesterday, your last communication with me was to say that you're done debating the shape of the earth. I respected that. But now you have referenced me in two threads to pull me back into debating the shape of the earth. Do you still wonder why my patience has worn thin?

 

[Lost4words]

Many many flat earth believers are sucked in to many wild conspiracy theories from youtube. They think it must be true. They are lied to.

Common sense would tell you what is fact vs fiction.

The Bible is not a book that goes into extreme detail about God's creation. Yet, some twist scripture to suit their unbelievable beliefs.

Globe earth is unquestionably correct. It has been proven umpteen times throughout the centuries. A flat earth has never ever been proven! Not once.

Same as the moon. It does not produce its own light source!! It reflects light! Another proven fact.

Please, conspiracy believers, stop twisting scripture. Realise that God gave man knowledge and understanding. The ability to delve into His creation. To understand it and explain things correctly.

Science can work with God's word.

I can image God shaking His head in disbelief at the people who think the earth is flat and the moon has its own light source!!!

 

[Apple Sky]

I can't do it anymore.

OK - I understand - See you around.

 

[Phil G]

OK - I understand - See you around.

No you don't understand. That flippant answer proves it.

 

[Apple Sky]

No you don't understand. That flippant answer proves it.

Sorry to be so flippant but I do understand where your coming from as I do realize the way in which I have changed my mind but this doesn't make me a bad person, besides it's women's prerogative to change her mind

 

[Phil G]

Sorry to be so flippant but I do understand where your coming from as I do realize the way in which I have changed my mind but this doesn't make me a bad person, besides it's women's prerogative to change her mind

It's not about changing your mind. It's about such things as double standards. You accuse people of being atheists to the core and that's the reason you don't believe them, then you believe another person who is also atheist to the core, and one which you said you wouldn't post any more of his videos and then you do.

In post #23 on this thread, you implied I was accusing somebody of being a tool of Satan when I wasn't. Then in post #27 you claimed that Satan works through NASA thereby doing the same thing you implied I was doing. That's another double standard.

You tell me you're done debating the shape of the earth and then you pull me back in on two threads to debate the shape of the earth.

This isn't about changing your mind, but about not being consistent or honest with what you say. And it seems you are not in the least bit concerned that you try to take us all for fools when we reach out to you to help.

I trusted that you would be different after your heartfelt prayer and graciousness in another thread not so long ago. Now all that has gone. Instead what's happening is that you are no longer listening to opposing points, but try to dismiss them as "silly" or try to excuse your change back to your pre-prayer style posts which serve only to provoke.

 

[Apple Sky]

You accuse people of being atheists to the core and that's the reason you don't believe them

Yes especially Jaren.

then you believe another person who is also atheist to the core, and one which you said you wouldn't post any more of his videos and then you do.

I only posted them b/c you provoked me.

This isn't about changing your mind, but about not being consistent or honest with what you say. I'm not the only one who has noticed this and it seems you are not in the least bit concerned that you try to take us all for fools when we reach out to you to help.

I do not take anyone for fools & I know how you've all try to help me & I did appreciate it so much & I did try hard for a while but something just kept dragging me back to the same mind set & seeing those two videos is what done it for me which by the way I didn't go looking for.

I trusted that you would be different after your heartfelt prayer and graciousness in another thread not so long ago.

I guess it's true what they say 'once a flat earther always a flat earther' it's very hard to break away from, when it came to believing in the globe it was like as if I were trying to make myself believe that which I knew not to be true.

I hope you can understand all this & don't think for a mo that I haven't appreciated all your help b/c I have, very much so.
You've all been wonderful.
Many blessings to all.

 

[Phil G]

Yes especially Jaren.

Neither Jaren nor Whitsit have given up on flat earth. Both are now trying to fit the 24 hour sun in Antarctica with a flat earth. At least that is being honest. Dubay is just resorting to name calling and ridiculous claims. If you side with Dubay over Jaren and Whitsit, then you side with someone who is not only an atheist and anti-Christ, but someone who is not interested in searching for the truth.

I only posted them b/c you provoked me.

I didn't provoke you. I pointed out that you have one standard for Jaren & Weiss and another for Dubay.

I do not take anyone for fools & I know how you've all try to help me & I did appreciate it so much & I did try hard for a while but something just kept dragging me back to the same mind set & seeing those two videos is what done it for me which by the way I didn't go looking for.

Do you not see that that is what Satan does? Drag people back towards their old ways. I can guarantee you that "something" which kept dragging you back was not the Lord.

I guess it's true what they say 'once a flat earther always a flat earther' it's very hard to break away from, when it came to believing in the globe it was like as if I were trying to make myself believe that which I knew not to be true.

It is very hard to break away from because of you have been indoctrinated. You speak like someone who is trying to break away from a cult and not succeeding because the pull back to the cult is too strong.

I hope you can understand all this & don't think for a mo that I haven't appreciated all your help b/c I have, very much so.
You've all been wonderful.
Many blessings to all.

Sadly I cannot accept this. Your referencing me in two threads to start debating the shape of the earth again when you said you were done with it belies your claim. You were not asking questions or seeking help with something which you were finding hard. You wouldn't even debate my responses to you. You were wholeheartedly back to your previous attitudes of dismissing or ignoring opposing points of view.

 

[Shemjaza]

I'm not denying that man has been to the moon I'm in denial of this so called final experiment video.

Wait?!

You believe the Earth is flat, but you don't deny the moon landing?

 

[Apple Sky]

Wait?!

You believe the Earth is flat, but you don't deny the moon landing?

They could launch a rocket from FE as well as a globe.

 

[Apple Sky]

Neither Jaren nor Whitsit have given up on flat earth. Both are now trying to fit the 24 hour sun in Antarctica with a flat earth. At least that is being honest. Dubay is just resorting to name calling and ridiculous claims. If you side with Dubay over Jaren and Whitsit, then you side with someone who is not only an atheist and anti-Christ, but someone who is not interested in searching for the truth.



I didn't provoke you. I pointed out that you have one standard for Jaren & Weiss and another for Dubay.



Do you not see that that is what Satan does? Drag people back towards their old ways. I can guarantee you that "something" which kept dragging you back was not the Lord.



It is very hard to break away from because of you have been indoctrinated. You speak like someone who is trying to break away from a cult and not succeeding because the pull back to the cult is too strong.



Sadly I cannot accept this. Your referencing me in two threads to start debating the shape of the earth again when you said you were done with it belies your claim. You were not asking questions or seeking help with something which you were finding hard. You wouldn't even debate my responses to you. You were wholeheartedly back to your previous attitudes of dismissing or ignoring opposing points of view.

What ever .........

 

[Apple Sky]

Same as the moon. It does not produce its own light source!! It reflects light! Another proven fact.

King James Bible
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

King James Bible
But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

 

[Strong in Him]

But I haven't been untrusting the only thing I've done is change my mind about the shape of the earth not about the moon walks.

Which doesn't make sense.
If you accept that men went to, and walked on, the moon then you accept photos they took of the earth from the moon/space. These photos clearly show the shape of the earth.
The Final Experiment was a trip to Antarctica to prove, once and for all, what shape the earth is. Even if you reject everything about that trip, there are still the photos of the earth, taken during the moon landings that you now accept.

You did not just "change your mind." You said "I now see that Flat earth was a load of nonsense." To say that you "see" it means - in that context - you understand that Flat Earth is a load of nonsense. So at the very least you should be saying that you were wrong to have made that statement.

Furthermore, and you are either ignoring or don't understand this, you said that you knew that there would be struggles for you and it would be difficult to accept that the earth is a globe but you would ask the Lord to help you and that you would trust in him more, and not trust in men (humans).
At least one person here said to you that you could ask for help from anyone while you were trying to understand a globe earth. Yet instead of saying "I found this on YouTube; what do you think; is there any truth to it?" or saying "Lord, please help me because this video seems to challenge the concept of a globe earth", which is what you should have done, you accepted it without question. First obstacle that you come across and you gave in and wrote that you were "back on the trail" - with an emoji of a big grin.
You are now saying that your fellow Flat Earthers, who saw the 24 hour sun and have had the decency to admit they were wrong, are atheists while quoting a guy who is not only an atheist but who has mocked and insulted God - but that's ok; you have chosen to trust in him.

 

[Lost4words]

King James Bible
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

King James Bible
But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

Interpretation, interpretation, interpretation.....

Moon reflects the suns light....

 

[Apple Sky]

Why make such a big deal about it ?
Why is it on MSM ?

This tells me they have faked it with the help of the big wigs like NASA who want to discredit flat earth. You may ask. why would they ? There are many reasons.

Sometimes you are wrong in life': Flat Earther travels all the way to Antarctica to put his theory to the test - only to realise our planet is very much round​

One of the internet's most famous 'Flat Earthers' has finally cottoned on to the truth. Jeran Campanella, who runs popular flat Earth YouTube channel 'Jeransim', has travelled to Antarctica as part of a $35,000 trip dubbed 'The Final Experiment'. Mr Campanella witnessed first hand that the sun doesn't set during the southern hemisphere's summer - debunking one of famous conspiracy theories of all.

Flat Earther travels to Antarctica - and realises our planet is round

Jeran Campanella, a famous Flat Earther who appeared in the 2018 film 'Behind the Curve', admits he is wrong in footage from Antarctica.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Jeran Campanella a disgrace to God.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14204879/Flat-Earther-Antarctica-planet-round.html

 

[Apple Sky]

Interpretation, interpretation, interpretation.....

Moon reflects the suns light....

I'm sorry but the moon has it's own light.

 

[Apple Sky]

If you accept that men went to, and walked on, the moon then you accept photos they took of the earth from the moon/space. These photos clearly show the shape of the earth.

What photos ?

 

[Phil G]

What ever .........

Another flippant answer proving that you're not prepared to grapple with reality. You prefer to remain in your own comfortable little bubble.

 

[Phil G]

Why make such a big deal about it ?
Why is it on MSM ?

This tells me they have faked it with the help of the big wigs like NASA who want to discredit flat earth. You may ask. why would they ? There are many reasons.

Sometimes you are wrong in life': Flat Earther travels all the way to Antarctica to put his theory to the test - only to realise our planet is very much round​

One of the internet's most famous 'Flat Earthers' has finally cottoned on to the truth. Jeran Campanella, who runs popular flat Earth YouTube channel 'Jeransim', has travelled to Antarctica as part of a $35,000 trip dubbed 'The Final Experiment'. Mr Campanella witnessed first hand that the sun doesn't set during the southern hemisphere's summer - debunking one of famous conspiracy theories of all.

Flat Earther travels to Antarctica - and realises our planet is round

Jeran Campanella, a famous Flat Earther who appeared in the 2018 film 'Behind the Curve', admits he is wrong in footage from Antarctica.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Jeran Campanella a disgrace to God.
Flat Earther travels to Antarctica - and realises our planet is round

Eric Dubay is a disgrace to God and any Christian who agrees with him, quotes him and posts his videos as if they are truth is also a disgrace to God.

And why does the fact that MSM picks up the story "tell" you that it is faked? Are you saying that nothing on MSM is real or true? Because if that's your excuse then all you're doing is sucking up what conspiracy theorists tell you without any independent thinking on your part. Yes the media does sometimes lie. But not everything they say is a lie. You need to think for yourself and you're obviously not doing that. Saying "this tells me" without evidence except that MSM publish it is stupidity.