There Wont Be A Future Millennial Kingdom On This Earth Don't Be Deceived

[Truth7t7]

This is apocalyptic language. It is not meant to be literal. It portrays a spiritual concept: The people who reject Jesus Christ as their Messiah will be thrown into hellfire.

This was fulfilled in 70 AD when Jesus came in judgment against the unbelieving Jews.

"Did not worship the beast, nor receive its mark" means that they rejected Satan and so they did not do the evil works that Satan had tempted them to do.

70 AD.
Jesus came in judgment. He destroyed the Jewish animal sacrificial system, the Jews' temple worship practices, the unbelieving Jews, and their great city, Jerusalem.

Pretersist 70AD fulfillment is a false teaching IMHO

 

[tailgator]

The resurrection of all will take place at the future second coming of Jesus is the heavens, this is the last day in final judgement (The End)

False.

The first resurection does not include all.

The rest of the dead remain dead for 1000 years after the first resurection.


Revelation 20

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.​

Do you see where it says the rest of the dead lived not again until the 1000 years were finished?

 

[tailgator]

The resurrection of all will take place at the future second coming of Jesus is the heavens, this is the last day in final judgement (The End)

Two separate resurections as I have showed you in revelation 20

Them who are resurected from the dead in the first resurection.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


Then the rest of the dead are raised after the 1000 years are finished.

 

[Jan001]

And you believe Jesus raised the dead in 70 AD as well,?
Jesus raised all the dead in Christ when he came?

No.
In 33 AD, Jesus raised the righteous people (their spirits) from Hades into heaven. They are still awaiting their bodily resurrection which will be at the end of time.

 

[Jan001]

Pretersist 70AD fulfillment is a false teaching IMHO

We have free will to believe whatever we want to believe.

 

[tailgator]

No.
In 33 AD, Jesus raised the righteous people (their spirits) from Hades into heaven. They are still awaiting their bodily resurrection which will be at the end of time.

You just said the prophecy was fulfilled in 70 AD.

You said Jesus came in 70 AD .Do you not pay attention to anything you post?



First you say Daniel prophecy was fulfilled in 164 BC.

Then you say Daniels prophecy was fulfilled in. 70 AD.

Then you say Daniels prophecy was fulfilled in 33 AD


Can you not make up your mind what year was the time of the end when Jesus came and raised the dead?

Daniel said these things happen at the same time.
Tribulation like no other.
Daniels people are delivered,everyone who's names are written.
Them who sleep in the dust of the earth awake .Some to everlasting life and others to everlasting shame.

And why are you saying them who are raised to everlasting shame and contempt are righteous?You believe it's righteous to do wrong?

 

[Diamond72]

No.
In 33 AD, Jesus raised the righteous people (their spirits) from Hades into heaven. They are still awaiting their bodily resurrection which will be at the end of time.

What part of the word "bodies" are you having trouble understanding?
"The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life."
Matthew 27:52

Jesus had a body and He was taken up. So we assume they were taken up in the same way Jesus was. Even He ate a fish to prove He had a body. Although we are told there will be no more death.

We do eat from the tree of life in Heaven. Of course the tree does not die and continues to produce fruit.

 

[Billy Evmur]

The entire universe will be dissolved by fire in "The Day Of The Lord" it will be a completely new creation of the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem

"The Elements Shall Melt With Fervent"

"All These Things Shall Be Dissolved"

Revelation 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Yes I agree, 1,000 years before this happens the church will be taken to meet the Lord, so shall we always be with Him. The Jews "when they shall see Him" will be converted and will reign on earth with Him.

We are sent to announce The Kingdom of Heaven, this is the Kingdom of Heaven.

We must go by Paul for he is apostle to the Gentiles and had this mystery revealed to him Ephesians ch 2.
you are going by the Jewish understanding.

 

[Billy Evmur]

The entire universe will be dissolved by fire in "The Day Of The Lord" it will be a completely new creation of the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem

"The Elements Shall Melt With Fervent"

"All These Things Shall Be Dissolved"

Revelation 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Why do you take Revelations New Heavens and New Earth literally as true but deny the 1, 000 years reign of Christ on Earth with His saints? They are both in the same portion of scripture.

 

[tailgator]

Yes I agree, 1,000 years before this happens the church will be taken to meet the Lord, so shall we always be with Him. The Jews "when they shall see Him" will be converted and will reign on earth with Him.

We are sent to announce The Kingdom of Heaven, this is the Kingdom of Heaven.

We must go by Paul for he is apostle to the Gentiles and had this mystery revealed to him Ephesians ch 2.
you are going by the Jewish understanding.

The Israelites who are beheaded for their witness of Jesus and who do not worship the beast ,it's image nor receive it's mark will be resurected and will reign with Christ over us for 1000 years.

The majority of Jews worship the beast and will soon be recieving its mark.Most likely next year.

 

[Diamond72]

The Jews "when they shall see Him" will be converted and will reign on earth with Him.

All of the "Jews" or just the 144,000?

 

[Truth7t7]

The Jews "when they shall see Him" will be converted and will reign on earth with Him.

Your claim is "False", when Jesus returns its "Fire Time" (The End) Read It Again And Again, The Lord's Fire Isn't Going To Be Removed At His Second Coming

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[Truth7t7]

The Israelites who are beheaded for their witness of Jesus and who do not worship the beast ,it's image nor receive it's mark will be resurected and will reign with Christ over us for 1000 years.

The majority of Jews worship the beast and will soon be recieving its mark.Most likely next year.

False Claim, the resurrection of "All" takes place on (The Last Day) at the second coming of Jesus in fire and final judgement (The End)

The Resurrection Of "All" John 5:28-29KJV

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

The Resurrection Of All And The Final Judgement The Book Of Life Is Opened Daniel 12:1-2KJV

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

The Resurrection Takes Place On The "Last Day"John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Jesus Returns In Fire (The End) Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

 

[Truth7t7]

Why do you take Revelations New Heavens and New Earth literally as true but deny the 1, 000 years reign of Christ on Earth with His saints? They are both in the same portion of scripture.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Diamond72]

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth

The Bible is of no private interpretation and you are the ONLY one that believes this.

knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,

no prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation.

2 Peter 1:20-21:

> "Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit."

 

[Truth7t7]

The Bible is of no private interpretation and you are the ONLY one that believes this.

Your claim is 100% "False"

There are untold millions of saved believers teaching and believing that Jesus returns in fire and final judgement dissolving this earth by fire (The End) no Millennial Kingdom on this earth will take place after the second coming

 

[tailgator]

False Claim, the resurrection of "All" takes place on (The Last Day) at the second coming of Jesus in fire and final judgement (The End)

The Resurrection Of "All" John 5:28-29KJV

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

The Resurrection Of All And The Final Judgement The Book Of Life Is Opened Daniel 12:1-2KJV

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

The Resurrection Takes Place On The "Last Day"John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Jesus Returns In Fire (The End) Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

False claim.

The rest of the dead live not again till the 1000 years are finished.

Revelation 20

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.​

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6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.​

 

[tailgator]

Your claim is 100% "False"

There are untold millions of saved believers teaching and believing that Jesus returns in fire and final judgement dissolving this earth by fire (The End) no Millennial Kingdom on this earth will take place after the second coming

The revelation of Jesus Christ says the saints in the first resurection who were beheaded for their testimony of Jesus ,reign with Christ on the earth for 1000 years before the Gog Magog war.​

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They reign over the nations in the Lord's land.Im betting you don't know where to he Lords land is though.​

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Isaiah 14:2​

And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.​

 

[Diamond72]

Your claim is 100% "False"

So you admit: 'Your claim is 100% "False". Did I just stumble into the twilight zone?

Unless you are able to show me someone, anyone anywhere that agrees with you.

The interpretation of the 1,000-year reign, also known as the Millennium, varies among different Christian theological perspectives. Here's a brief overview:

Premillennialism:​

• Literal Earthly Reign: Premillennialists believe that the 1,000-year reign of Christ will take place on Earth. According to this view, Christ will return before the Millennium and establish His kingdom, where He will reign physically on Earth with His saints for 1,000 years.

Amillennialism:​

• Symbolic Interpretation: Amillennialists interpret the 1,000 years symbolically rather than literally. They believe that the Millennium represents the current church age, where Christ reigns spiritually in the hearts of believers. The 1,000 years is seen as a figurative period, not a literal future event on Earth.

Postmillennialism:​

• Golden Age on Earth: Postmillennialists believe that the 1,000 years refers to a future era of peace and righteousness on Earth, brought about by the gradual spread of the gospel. After this period, Christ will return for the final judgment.

Each perspective interprets the Millennium differently, but the premillennial view specifically places the 1,000-year reign on Earth.

 

[Truth7t7]

So you admit: 'Your claim is 100% "False". Did I just stumble into the twilight zone?

Unless you are able to show me someone, anyone anywhere that agrees with you.

The interpretation of the 1,000-year reign, also known as the Millennium, varies among different Christian theological perspectives. Here's a brief overview:

Premillennialism:​

• Literal Earthly Reign: Premillennialists believe that the 1,000-year reign of Christ will take place on Earth. According to this view, Christ will return before the Millennium and establish His kingdom, where He will reign physically on Earth with His saints for 1,000 years.

Amillennialism:​

• Symbolic Interpretation: Amillennialists interpret the 1,000 years symbolically rather than literally. They believe that the Millennium represents the current church age, where Christ reigns spiritually in the hearts of believers. The 1,000 years is seen as a figurative period, not a literal future event on Earth.

Postmillennialism:​

• Golden Age on Earth: Postmillennialists believe that the 1,000 years refers to a future era of peace and righteousness on Earth, brought about by the gradual spread of the gospel. After this period, Christ will return for the final judgment.

Each perspective interprets the Millennium differently, but the premillennial view specifically places the 1,000-year reign on Earth.

I believe the words (Thousand Years) is (Symbolic) (Not Literal) as seen in Revelation 20:4-6 below, and is expressed in 2 Peter 3:8 as one day is a thousand years (Not Literal)

I believe Jesus returns in fire and final judgement (The End) as you've been shown several times

As stated my views are held by millions of Ahmillennialist in this world presently, your previous claim I stand alone is "False"

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.