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President Biden is leaving Trump a shocking mess to clean up

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Is this parody? Satire?
It feels like early iterations of talking points designed to blame the immanent failure of Trump's second term on Biden. I'm sure the spin will evolve as the people generating it find out what causes customers to buy.
 
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Lol.

Yet the same liberals scream and call Trump a narcissist.
Scream? No.

Trump is a narcissist. Your "yet" is misplaced unless and until you can demonstrate that Biden's distributing funds allocated by Congress for the purpose of mitigating the effects of agw is narcissistic and self-serving.
Sure, Jan.
Ah, you're no Marcia.
 
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Well yeah, that was my point...you DON'T know....
That was an incredibly useless point as I have never claimed to know what you do or don't know - unlike your constant claims re me - which, by the way, you should just knock off as I am not the subject of these threads.
 
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Scream? No.

Trump is a narcissist. Your "yet" is misplaced unless and until you can demonstrate that Biden's distributing funds allocated by Congress for the purpose of mitigating the effects of agw is narcissistic and self-serving.

Ah, you're no Marcia.
I don’t know him personally, so I can’t call him a narcissist.

Tolerance is a two way street.
 
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Luckily we have evidence of his statements and actions.


Let us know when Trump starts.
Unless you’re a psychologist or know him personally, no one has a right to call him a narcissist. That’s not how that works.
 
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I don’t know him personally, so I can’t call him a narcissist.
Yet you want to call Biden one without knowing him either? Test words against actions, draw conclusions or don't, as you please.
Tolerance is a two way street.
Is it? Trump has sworn vengeance and retribution on all who have crossed him. Who is he "tolerating" and how?
 
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Yet you want to call Biden one without knowing him either? Test words against actions, draw conclusions or don't, as you please.

Is it? Trump has sworn vengeance and retribution on all who have crossed him. Who is he "tolerating" and how?
I did not call Biden a narcissist. I don’t know the man.

Do you have an unbiased source for that?
 
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It's not a matter of not "taking them at their word" it's a matter of making them accountable to their words.
Nothing you can do now about Biden. The only politician really held accountable and got the boot was was the first Bush with his "no new taxes pledge." Accountability is usually lacking. I will say though that Americans will vote against those who cause inflation. That was Biden's loss this time.
 
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That was an incredibly useless point as I have never claimed to know what you do or don't know - unlike your constant claims re me - which, by the way, you should just knock off as I am not the subject of these threads.
So don't put words in my mouth and keep saying I am wrong...
 
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Debatable if and what of these things are true or false. Courts have and do make decisions in error ... many people have been convicted of crimes in error.

Like it or not ... he's been elected president ... and we will see how things play out.
No, it's not up for debate. What I am saying is this idea of a two tiered justice system is a nonsensical canard. He is what he is, a lifelong con man and convicted felon. And yes sadly, in our weird system where felons lose the right to vote, they can still be president. I asked if maybe you take just one glance at the historical Trump, and you blame everyone and everything but Trump.
 
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Unless you’re a psychologist or know him personally, no one has a right to call him a narcissist.
I can't seem to find that right enumerated in the law books. Can you explain where this is coming from, assuming it isn't just yet another idea manufactured to try and hide another negative of Trump's?
 
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Facts?

Lol.

I don’t trust the MSM.

Trump is compassionate and rather grandfatherly.

Anyone who knows him calls him generous.

I actually like Trump a lot.

My opinion has definitely changed over time.
He is conning you. What kind of man looks at his newborn, and muses how big her chest maybe? What kind of man thinks it just fine for strange men to refer to his daughter as a hot piece of ____? What kind of man brags about being able to walk into a women's dressing room unannounced? What kind of man muses about dating his daughter, if she wasn't his daughter? What kind of man tells his friends they should go to Russia, because the women their have no morals? What kind of man looks at a ten year old girl, and talks of dating her in ten years? What kind of man brags about just walking up to women and grabbing them by their vagina?
You're probably not like Trump at all.
 
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I did not call Biden a narcissist. I don’t know the man.
Oh. Then what does the "Yet" mean in "Yet the same liberals scream and call Trump a narcissist"?

Do you have an unbiased source for that?
On my phone, in transit so I will get back to you on that.
So don't put words in my mouth and keep saying I am wrong...
I never have put words in your mouth., so that is a false accusation.

If I think you are wrong or mistaken, that has nothing to do with me knowing what you do or don’t actually know.

Anyway, I am tired of your personal attacks so find something else to discuss, something not me as none of these threads are about me, okay?
 
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Oh. Then what does the "Yet" mean in "Yet the same liberals scream and call Trump a narcissist"?


On my phone, in transit so I will get back to you on that.

I never have put words in your mouth., so that is a false accusation.

If I think you are wrong or mistaken, that has nothing to do with me knowing what you do or don’t actually know.

Anyway, I am tired of your personal attacks so find something else to discuss, something not me as none of these threads are about me, okay?
Maybe I wasn’t clear. I don’t think it’s fair to say Biden is NOT a decent person, just like it’s not ok to call Trump names.

You have a right to disagree.

That’s all I meant.
 
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No, it's not up for debate. What I am saying is this idea of a two tiered justice system is a nonsensical canard. He is what he is, a lifelong con man and convicted felon. And yes sadly, in our weird system where felons lose the right to vote, they can still be president. I asked if maybe you take just one glance at the historical Trump, and you blame everyone and everything but Trump.
Don't you find it very strange that Trump was never scrutinized until he got into the political realm? Trumps history you say? What was Trumps history before he entered politics? Pretty much liked and admired by everyone in both the political and celebrity realms.

And then there's the Russia Russia hoax that was proven to be devised by Clinton and propagated by the democratic party and the news media.

There is a lot to be considered ... hard to say ... we will have to see how it all shakes out ... or if it even does.

Personally I don't trust much of anything that goes on in government ... no doubt there is corruption going on (many levels) ... who knows what will and will not be fully exposed.

Lies of deception go around the world at lightening speed .... while truth barely gets of the ground.

We never really know what's truly going on with anything. So ... we are just an ill informed audience in the theater of life ... and every day is a new day.

I don't get up tight about politics ... I just watch the movie. When things come out ... I have a maybe or maybe not attitude.
 
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Don't you find it very strange that Trump was never scrutinized until he got into the political realm? Trumps history you say? What was Trumps history before he entered politics? Pretty much liked and admired by everyone in both the political and celebrity realms.
Not entirely sunshine and daisies/

"Donald started his career, back in 1973, being sued by the Justice Department for racial discrimination — because he would not rent apartments in one of his developments to African-Americans, and he made sure that the people who worked for him understood that was the policy," [the case was settled out of court]

Trump pushing and supporting the Obama is a Kenyan lie

Trump calling for the execution of the Central park 5 and not admitting he was wrong when they were exonerated by the evidence. "Tell me, what were they doing in the Park, playing checkers?"



And then there's the Russia Russia hoax that was proven to be devised by Clinton and propagated by the democratic party and the news media.
Whatever you think the hoax is, people in Trump's orbit were convicted for lying about their contacts with Russians.
 
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Yes, using all the liberal buzz words to make your case with no evidence. Climate change deniers lol

Yes, "liberal buzzwords". Like LCOE, investment and pollution.

You linked to a random opinion piece from a non scientist, that draws its conclusions from information provided by two NOTORIOUS climate change deniers.

Firstly, the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Which has been denying the science and muddying the waters on climate change for more than 30 years. Most recently they got slapped by multiple authors of papers they referenced for ads, for deliberately misrepresenting the conclusions of the papers and cherry picking data. These are the 'no, CO2 is actually good' people.

Secondly, from Frederick Seitz. He was one of the organisers of the Oregon Petition (you know, the one in the late 1990s that said there's no link between CO2 emissions and warming) and a habitual climate liar. He was also one of the scientists hired by tobacco companies to deny links between smoking and cancer - just so you know the sort of principled idealist we're dealing with here - and essentially ran the same playbook with climate change science.


I'll note that you didn't actually refute any of the points I made.
 
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