Trump scrapped a proposed $2 drug program for seniors. But why?

[ozso]

I assume you're joking. But, Is Trump planning to do this, or is that the project 2025 idea? If Trump put into the system. It wouldn't be smart to take Medicare away. But you never know what influences Trump has.

Trump's return puts Medicaid on the chopping block

You name it, Evil Trump is doing it.

 

[ozso]

To be fair, I don't think Trump's largess and preference is limited to rich white men. Any sufficiently rich person seems welcome.

He's an ultra misogynist mega white supremacists

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I assume you're joking. But, Is Trump planning to do this, or is that the project 2025 idea? If Trump put into the system. It wouldn't be smart to take Medicare away. But you never know what influences Trump has.

Medicaid isn't going anywhere, neither is Social Security...

Those programs have become a third rail in the US politics. Quite similar to the NHS in the UK... where even the party that's critical of it, won't dare "rock the boat".

 

[NxNW]

Medicaid isn't going anywhere, neither is Social Security...

Republicans and right-wingers dream about getting rid of them both.

 

[A2SG]

He’s cares about the American people- not just the rich.

Yeah, that's what he says. Whether or not he actually does care, well, that's another story.

I'll allow time to see what happens...but I will admit, given past history, I'm going to have to be convinced.

-- A2SG, Trump seems to care most about Trump, full stop.....

 

[A2SG]

He's an ultra misogynist mega white supremacists

Hey, you said it. I sure didn't.

-- A2SG, then again, with Trump, hyperbole does seem the norm.....

 

[KCfromNC]

Action show otherwise.

Who are you going to believe - a guy convicted of 34 counts of fraud or your own eyes?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Republicans and right-wingers dream about getting rid of them both.

Do you have any polling or data to support that assertion?

Here's what I'm operating off of:
Most Americans say the current Medicaid program is working well for most low-income people covered by the program. More than two-thirds of the public overall (69%) say the program is working well, as do large majorities of independents (63%), Republicans (69%), and Democrats (76%).

 

[essentialsaltes]

President Trump on Friday vowed to impose sweeping tariffs on semiconductor chips, pharmaceuticals, steel and aluminum and oil and gas.

“We’ll be doing pharmaceuticals. Importantly in drugs and medicines, etc. All forms of medicine and pharmaceuticals,” Trump said. “And we’ll be doing, very importantly, steel, and we’ll also be doing chips and things associated with chips.”

 

[Fantine]

The inflation reduction act allows Medicare to negotiate with big pharma to lower drug prices. Merck actually sued to prevent the law from being enacted!
The law currently applies to a number of costly brand name drugs so that access can be improved.
Big pharmaceutical companies are ripping America off--while they sell their medications to other countries at huge discounts.
Insurance companies, Medicare, VA, IHS should all be allowed to negotiate for lower drug prices for all drugs.

And Trump, who authored "Art of the Deal," seems uniquely equipped to negotiate drug prices at a level "that has never before been seen in the world."

Instead of backpedaling a law which took years to enact, he should use it to showcase his talent for making deals, expanding it to every single drug for every single federal program.

All he needs is empathy and motivation.

 

[rjs330]

This is more fear mongering. Everything Trump is doing is causing the left in this country to panic. And the media isn't helping by spreading mis or dis information. And far too many people are predisposed to such fear that everything is a crisis and is going to cause such horrible consequences. Even if it's not true.

 

[KCfromNC]

This is more fear mongering.

Interesting opinion, but not particularly useful given the facts presented earlier in the thread.

 

[Say it aint so]

Do you have any polling or data to support that assertion?

Here's what I'm operating off of:
Most Americans say the current Medicaid program is working well for most low-income people covered by the program. More than two-thirds of the public overall (69%) say the program is working well, as do large majorities of independents (63%), Republicans (69%), and Democrats (76%).

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It's a case of voting for leopards who eat faces, and being surprised they are trying to eat your face. It's not the voting Republicans who want it cut, it's the Republicans they voted for. One can tell by the their past legislation and stated pronouncements come budget cuts, Everything is on the table especially what they consider entitlement programs.

 

[Say it aint so]

This is more fear mongering. Everything Trump is doing is causing the left in this country to panic. And the media isn't helping by spreading mis or dis information. And far too many people are predisposed to such fear that everything is a crisis and is going to cause such horrible consequences. Even if it's not true.

Why would you to rescind government trying to make pharmaceutical deductibles cheaper?
Why would you want to take away Medicare's ability to negotiate lower drug prices?
Excuse the media for actually reporting that which has actually taken place.
What doesn't cause me necessarily "panic" but the idea these moves are being dismissed causes me bewilderment.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

"As President Donald Trump entered office this week, one of his first major policy moves on healthcare was to roll back a Biden administration executive order aimed at lowering prescription drug prices. In doing so, he appears to have scrapped a below-the-radar federal effort to make more generic drugs available to Medicare patients for just $2 a prescription...." "...In late 2022, former President Biden signed an executive order urging federal healthcare regulators to devise new payment models for Medicare and Medicaid that would help lower prescription costs. The move was meant to build on the recent passage of the Inflation Reduction Act, which, for the first time, allowed Medicare to negotiate with manufacturers on drug prices.​

In response, the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation proposed a handful of potential projects, one of which would have invited Medicare prescription drug plans to voluntarily offer a standardized list of frequently used generic drugs with a $2 co-pay, making costs easier to predict for doctors and patients. The idea was borrowed partly from large pharmacy chains such as Walmart, which offers customers a straightforward $4 drug list." --Yahoo finance​

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Keep in mind, this program, as well as the program Biden crafted where medicare now has the ability to negotiate drug pricing, directly correlates to the cost of premiums those on Medicare have to pay. And btw, if the GOP has their way, they would kill that too. "GOP senators introduce bill to stop Medicare from negotiating lower drug prices." So it's a potential double whammy.

So, as for the "but why?" question from the articles title. This: "Pfizer executives descend on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago for planning meeting." That was 2 weeks ago. The killing of any attempts to lower deductibles happened 3 days after his inauguration. Notice there are NO pledges to lower prescription costs, which he failed to do, this Trump go around. And no, kind of like Trump freezing federal funds but blaming it on a computer outage, there are no coincidences with this admin. Welcome to the oligarchs, USA style.

Because Billionaires need to look out for one another.

 

[rjs330]

Why would you to rescind government trying to make pharmaceutical deductibles cheaper?
Why would you want to take away Medicare's ability to negotiate lower drug prices?
Excuse the media for actually reporting that which has actually taken place.
What doesn't cause me necessarily "panic" but the idea these moves are being dismissed causes me bewilderment.

What Trump did won't affect things like you said.

Key Takeaways

Trump’s rescission of Biden administration Executive Order No. 14087 will not impact recent implementation of price caps on insulin and out-of-pocket patient costs.

Trump’s executive order won’t affect Medicare’s Drug Price Negotiation Program and will not impact negotiation of the 15 drugs that CMS announced on January 17, 2025.

Don't listen to the noise from the Democrats and main stream media. They are fear mongering.

Trumps administration is most likely moving forward with reforms. Now just relax and don't get so worked up. This administration is only 30 days old. Staus Quo was never in the cards. And it certainly does not not mean that any changes are bad. Give it some time.

Trump Executive Order Signals Drug Pricing Reforms Likely on the Horizon

Through the issuance of Inauguration Day executive orders, the Trump Administration signaled its apparent intent to tackle drug pricing reforms over the next four years. However, Biden-era policies are likely to limit a comprehensive overhaul of existing reforms in the near term.

www.morganlewis.com

 

[Say it aint so]

What Trump did won't affect things like you said.

Key Takeaways

Trump’s rescission of Biden administration Executive Order No. 14087 will not impact recent implementation of price caps on insulin and out-of-pocket patient costs.

Trump’s executive order won’t affect Medicare’s Drug Price Negotiation Program and will not impact negotiation of the 15 drugs that CMS announced on January 17, 2025.

Don't listen to the noise from the Democrats and main stream media. They are fear mongering.

Trumps administration is most likely moving forward with reforms. Now just relax and don't get so worked up. This administration is only 30 days old. Staus Quo was never in the cards. And it certainly does not not mean that any changes are bad. Give it some time.

Trump Executive Order Signals Drug Pricing Reforms Likely on the Horizon

Through the issuance of Inauguration Day executive orders, the Trump Administration signaled its apparent intent to tackle drug pricing reforms over the next four years. However, Biden-era policies are likely to limit a comprehensive overhaul of existing reforms in the near term.

www.morganlewis.com

Why would you to rescind government trying to make pharmaceutical deductibles cheaper?

 

[RileyG]

Who are you going to believe - a guy convicted of 34 counts of fraud or your own eyes?

Who should I believe?

My own conscience and mind or the liberal media?

Hmmm....

They're just persecuting him!

 

[RileyG]

Action show otherwise.

I've listened to Trump.

He is very compassionate and grandfatherly.

No, the liberal MSM won't change my mind because I won't drink their Kool Aid.

thanks, but no thanks!

 

[DaisyDay]

Republicans and right-wingers dream about getting rid of them both.

I disagree - what they want to do is privatize them and siphon the equity out of accounts into their pockets. Medicare is halfway privatized with the scammy Medicare Advantage plans. Bush came somewhat close to privatizing SS but the crash put the kibosh on that, just in time.