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President Biden is leaving Trump a shocking mess to clean up

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If Joe Biden were a decent fellow and a patriot, he would be using his remaining weeks as president to fix some of the disasters he has created. Instead, he is doing just the opposite.
Biden and his apparatchiks are trying to spend every last dollar authorized by the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act so that the Trump administration cannot recapture those funds. The IRA gave the White House some $375 billion in taxpayer funds to be strewn about the country as they see fit, under the total control of former Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta.

What a sad state they have imposed on our country.
 
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Maybe you are looking at the example from the wrong perspective?
Maybe the Biden crew are spending every last penny of the Inflation Reduction Act in order to close it out. That would leave one less thing for Trump Inc to address post January 20.

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If Joe Biden were a decent fellow and a patriot,
Great start to a thread! Not goading or baiting at all - although perhaps a bit projecting...

The money "strewn around" by the Inflation Reduction Act is authorized by Congress - the president has an actual obligation to distribute funds as directed by the act. This entails investment in green energy and climate mitigation efforts which the incoming president has sworn to kill. So, good for President Biden!
 
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Great start to a thread! Not goading or baiting at all - although perhaps a bit projecting...

The money "strewn around" by the Inflation Reduction Act is authorized by Congress - the president has an actual obligation to distribute funds as directed by the act. This entails investment in green energy and climate mitigation efforts which the incoming president has sworn to kill. So, good for President Biden!
"Green energy" isn't so green as we have all found out. It is not cost effective and unreliable. Climate mitigation is a farce...


 
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"Green energy" isn't so green as we have all found out. It is not cost effective and unreliable. Climate mitigation is a farce...


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"Green energy" isn't so green as we have all found out.
Not perfect? Scrap it immediately!
It is not cost effective and unreliable.
Tell that to the UK - Newcastle is coal-free.

Climate mitigation is a farce...

Oh, a FoxNews opinion piece! By a non-climate scientist....color me convinced!

I can see why you would chose to cite an article from a quarter of a century ago from PubMed -NOT a climate science publication - that is cited by only one paper, a commentary from 1998. ^_^ In fact, if you look at the listed citations (papers that cite this one) it says:



:rolleyes: Nope, not convincing at all.
 
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That's only a fraction of the carbon produced by the last jet Greta Thunberg flew on. And way way less than lithium battery plants produce to make batteries for electric cars.
 
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Maybe you are looking at the example from the wrong perspective?
Maybe the Biden crew are spending every last penny of the Inflation Reduction Act in order to close it out. That would leave one less thing for Trump Inc to address post January 20.

;)
Realize Joe lied from day one, when Joe invoked the name of God and said that he would always be straight with the American people. The weaponization of the executive branch, the two-tiered justice system, and the continued violations of our Constitution will soon be brought to a halt.
 
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That's only a fraction of the carbon produced by the last jet Greta Thunberg flew on. And way way less than lithium battery plants produce to make batteries for electric cars.
No no, Tesla is now fully MAGA friendly........ and vice versa.
 
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That's only a fraction of the carbon produced by the last jet Greta Thunberg flew on.
AFAIK Thunberg makes a point of using trains and other less carbon-intensive means of conveyance whenever possible.
 
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Not perfect? Scrap it immediately!

Tell that to the UK - Newcastle is coal-free.

Oh, a FoxNews opinion piece! By a non-climate scientist....color me convinced!

I can see why you would chose to cite an article from a quarter of a century ago from PubMed -NOT a climate science publication - that is cited by only one paper, a commentary from 1998. ^_^ In fact, if you look at the listed citations (papers that cite this one) it says:
:rolleyes: Nope, not convincing at all.
Huh? I said it is unreliable and not cost effective. You make fun of FOX NEWS and the post a NPR article LOL! The reason is that "climate change" is the buzz of the left. Cause celebre. You can't even get an unbiased article because all the search engines are left leaning and only provide left biased info. The scientists that signed against it are real.
 
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Huh? I said it is unreliable and not cost effective
Yes, you did. Are you aware that hydroelectric is green? Saying it's unreliable and demonstrating that are two entirely different things.
You make fun of FOX NEWS and the post a NPR article LOL!
Not simply FoxNews, but an opinion piece labeled "Opinion" by a profeesional fossil fuel apologist, not a scientist. What particular expertise does he bring? While Epstein decries "green energy" he, unlike you, does not deny that anthropogenic global warming is occurring:

Here’s the interesting thing, though: I am an outspoken global warming affirmer. I recognize that in the last 150 years the average temperature around the globe has trended upward rather than downward. I recognize that human CO2 emissions make a contribution to warming through the mechanism of the “greenhouse effect.” Forbes Linkie

The NPR article cited easily checked facts concerning the UK and coal, which you merely pooh-poohed rather than disputed.

Your PubMed article is not only outdated by a quarter century, but disputed by PubMed/BMJ, so not exactly authoritative.
The reason is that "climate change" is the buzz of the left.
The buzz? It seems more like a reflex action for many people to oppose something, not on its merits, but merely or mostly to oppose "the left" - who unfortunately for the anti-agw position, include most the working scientists in the field.
Cause celebre. You can't even get an unbiased article because all the search engines are left leaning and only provide left biased info. The scientists that signed against it are real.
You think it's a giant conspiracy that includes all the climate scientists? The best you could come up with is an ancient, single author who got no traction amongst his peers. Yes, there are outliers, fewer now than 25 years ago, and they are outliers who have not contributed to the base of knowledge.

Have you ever read any of the papers/sites that discuss climate science? The first I heard of the controversy was from the denier pov, so that was my bias - until I read what the scientists, the climate scientists, as opposed to computer engineers and meteorologists, had to say; they convinced me. Primarily RealClimate: Frontpage. What convinced me is the lack of hyperbole, citing real research with facts and figures, and the consensus of scientists in the actual field.

I don't think there is much point in discussing this with you as neither of us will sway the other. So, have a good day!
 
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To put into context, the debt is the result of gross mismanagement for well over 50 years in the USA.
I think we have to go back to Harry Truman to find someone responsible. His debt amounted to a mere .2% during his time in office. U.S. Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

Here is a quote from the Truman library.

"July 1, 1946, was the beginning of the first fiscal year following the end of the war. By that date the wartime Armed Forces had been largely demobilized; most of the war contracts had been liquidated. We had nearly completed our reconversion. From then until June 30, 1950, we were in a period of generally high employment and national income. For those 4 fiscal years we had a net budget surplus of $4.3 billion. By applying this surplus and some of the wartime cash reserves, the public debt was reduced substantially, reaching a low point of $251.2 billion in June 1949, and amounting to $257.4 billion on June 30, 1950."

This was a good record, though it should have been better. I recommended frequently during this period that our surpluses be larger and our debt reduction greater. But the untimely and unfair tax reduction of 1948, passed by the 80th Congress over my veto, prevented this. Statement by the President on the Change in the Public Debt During His Term of Office | Harry S. Truman

I recall how someone in the press opined that Reagan run up the debt so the Democrats would have to slow spending after he left office. Since Reagan, the debt percentages and numbers started exploding.

Later, with Clinton, I recall how the GOP and even Rush Limbaugh were so excited about the Clinton "surplus" that they were arguing over how much in taxes they could cut. They then proceeded to project surpluses out far into the future, while spending and cutting more than ever.

Later, Bush added Part D medicare, It busted the projections for that program by 100% Not too mention the war performance after 9/11 that turned out to be a farce that 90% of Americans supported.

Obama too said some important things about fixing the debt as Senator only later to renege on it during his 8 years.

Biden in his career though has overseen more debt than anyone in the history of America. I base that on a formula where each member of Congress is given a percentage of the debt as is the President and VP. Since Biden was in all those offices for so long, and for the years of the most debt, he easily comes out on top. I do not think it would matter how you weighted it as to what percent the President was responsible etc. Biden frankly is the King of U.S. Debt.

The question is can Trump and the GOP fix even a small part? I'm skeptical, because Trump's last term was not debt friendly. Covid free money just caused inflation, so that is only a partial excuse. The Musk group though seems optimistic. More likely though they will be worse than the Congress during and after Bill Clinton.

Forgive me if I won't take the politicians at their word.
 
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Forgive me if I won't take the politicians at their word.
Theres no political upside to "austerity". Dont blame the politicians. The voters on both 'sides' will punish it mercilessly - up until the point of total collapse Argentina style.
 
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If Joe Biden were a decent fellow and a patriot, he would be using his remaining weeks as president to fix some of the disasters he has created. Instead, he is doing just the opposite.
Biden and his apparatchiks are trying to spend every last dollar authorized by the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act so that the Trump administration cannot recapture those funds. The IRA gave the White House some $375 billion in taxpayer funds to be strewn about the country as they see fit, under the total control of former Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta.

What a sad state they have imposed on our country.
Gosh and after Trump was so helpful to the incoming Biden administration!
 
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The IRA also involves using part of the increased tax revenues to reduce the deficit.

The World Economic Forum estimates that the Act would prevent the federal debt from growing by $1.9 trillion over a 20-year period.

Biden has not left a mess, he has gifted Trump a job-creating program that also reduces deficits by raising revenues more than the increased expenses.
 
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Yes, you did. Are you aware that hydroelectric is green? Saying it's unreliable and demonstrating that are two entirely different things.

The NPR article cited easily checked facts concerning the UK and coal, which you merely pooh-poohed rather than disputed.

I don't think there is much point in discussing this with you as neither of us will sway the other. So, have a good day!
Hydro is fine IF it does not impeed fish populations, very expensive startup costs though. Opinions are NOT always wrong. UK is using NUCLEAR that has its own storage problems. I know much more than you think. :)
 
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If Joe Biden were a decent fellow and a patriot, he would be using his remaining weeks as president to fix some of the disasters he has created. Instead, he is doing just the opposite.
Biden and his apparatchiks are trying to spend every last dollar authorized by the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act so that the Trump administration cannot recapture those funds. The IRA gave the White House some $375 billion in taxpayer funds to be strewn about the country as they see fit, under the total control of former Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta.

What a sad state they have imposed on our country.
Is this parody? Satire?
 
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