Creation

[David Lamb]

Hi BNR32FAN
Thank your post but I think you will find when God said let there be light he was speaking of Jesus Christ the light of the world through whom all things are created he is the beginning and the end of creation the end of creation is man in the image of God which is the multitude of believers which he will present to the Father on his return

Love and Peace
Dave

I am sure there was some looking forward to Jesus Christ being the Light of the world, but in Genesis, when God said, "Let there be light" light came into existence. Jesus was not created - He is eternal, so when God created light, it can't mean that He was creating Jesus Christ.

 

[davetaff]

I am sure there was some looking forward to Jesus Christ being the Light of the world, but in Genesis, when God said, "Let there be light" light came into existence. Jesus was not created - He is eternal, so when God created light, it can't mean that He was creating Jesus Christ.

Hi David
Thank you for your reply but I'm sorry I can't agree as the following verses will confirm

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was

Christ is the beginning of creation all things were created through him and for him the last thing he created was mankind in the image of God which is the multitude of believers that he will present to the Father on his return let us pray that he will finish his creation soon.

Love and Peace
Dave

 

[David Lamb]

Hi David
Thank you for your reply but I'm sorry I can't agree as the following verses will confirm

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was

Christ is the beginning of creation all things were created through him and for him the last thing he created was mankind in the image of God which is the multitude of believers that he will present to the Father on his return let us pray that he will finish his creation soon.

Love and Peace
Dave

The verses you quote are true, but they don't tell us that God the Son was created. Neither do they say that the light which God is recorded in Genesis as having spoken into existence was anything other than actual light.

 

[davetaff]

The verses you quote are true, but they don't tell us that God the Son was created. Neither do they say that the light which God is recorded in Genesis as having spoken into existence was anything other than actual light.

Hi David
Thank you for your reply but I have never said Christ was created he is eternal when God said let there be light he was calling Christ forward to take up his place as the beginning of creation think of it as the son of enlightenment the sun already existed and was giving light to the world.
Nothing can survive without the light of the sun and God did not create it until day four makes no sense so that's why I say the creation account in Genesis should be seen as symbolic so the sun moon and stars represent Christ his bride the church and the children of God.

Love and Peace
Dave

 

[David Lamb]

Hi David
Thank you for your reply but I have never said Christ was created he is eternal when God said let there be light he was calling Christ forward to take up his place as the beginning of creation think of it as the son of enlightenment the sun already existed and was giving light to the world.
Nothing can survive without the light of the sun and God did not create it until day four makes no sense so that's why I say the creation account in Genesis should be seen as symbolic so the sun moon and stars represent Christ his bride the church and the children of God.

Love and Peace
Dave

Sorry Dave, I have misunderstood your words, particularly: "I think you will find when God said let there be light he was speaking of Jesus Christ the light of the world." I took that to mean that when God said "Let there be light" He was speaking the One Who is the Light of the world into existence. Your current post shows that you didn't mean that, so I apologise.

 

[davetaff]

Sorry Dave, I have misunderstood your words, particularly: "I think you will find when God said let there be light he was speaking of Jesus Christ the light of the world." I took that to mean that when God said "Let there be light" He was speaking the One Who is the Light of the world into existence. Your current post shows that you didn't mean that, so I apologise.

Hi David
Thank you for your reply no need to apologise I can be difficult to understand sometimes but thank you.
I think under standing creation is important and it makes more sense to apply it to the time after the flood everything created before the flood died in the flood ceased to be so God began again the onlything he needed to create was man in the image of God which is Jesus Christ at his second coming.
What is your thoughts on when Jesus cured the blind man and when he looked he saw men walking like trees did Christ make a mistake unthinkable he had cured his spiritual blindness he is showing us we must see the creation account as symbolic not literally

Love and Peace
Dave

 

[BNR32FAN]

??? There's no word for temple in the Torah? There are temples all throughout Torah. What are you talking about about?

Habakkuk 2:20 ESV
[20] But the Lord is in his holy temple; let all the earth keep silence before him.”

Psalm 11:4 ESV
[4] The Lord is in his holy temple; the Lord’s throne is in heaven; his eyes see, his eyelids test the children of man.

Psalm 11:4 NASB
[4] ¶The Lord is in His holy temple; the Lord’s throne is in heaven; His eyes see, His eyelids test the sons of mankind.

1 Kings 5:3 AMP
[3] “You know that David my father could not build a house (temple) for the Name (Presence) of the Lord his God because of the wars which surrounded him, until the Lord put his enemies under his feet. [2 Sam 7:4ff; 1 Chr 22:8]

Or, here is Deuteronomy:
Deuteronomy 23:18 CEB
[18] Don’t bring a female prostitute’s fee or a male prostitute’s payment to the LORD your God’s temple to pay a solemn promise because both of these things are detestable to the LORD your God.

Exodus 23:19 CEB
[19] Bring the best of your land’s early produce to the LORD your God’s temple. Don’t boil a young goat in its mother’s milk.

Exodus 34:26 CEB
[26] Bring the best of the early produce of your farmland to the LORD your God’s temple. Don’t boil a young goat in its mother’s milk.

Don't even bother commenting if you are just going to come up with irrational and confused responses.

Or ziggurats like the tower of babel? Those are temples.

Are you not aware that the Tower of Babel was a temple?

Etemenanki (the "Tower of Babel") - Livius

www.livius.org

That's part of the big issue with Moses and the Israelites while in captivity. Their captors, the Egyptians and Babylonians were worshipping pagan deities. And worship happens in temples. Pagans weren't just hanging out in the middle of deserts worshipping Baal. There were temples. Egyptian Temples. Babylonian temples, Akkadian temples, Assyrian temples. There are lots and lots of ancient pieces of literature about temples that date back to the time of Moses.

Look if you can’t even be honest about the discussion then why bother? First of all the Torah is the 5 books written by Moses not the entire Old Testament. The first Jewish temple was built by Solomon at least 300 years after Moses died. The verses you’re quoting are not God’s temple, that’s why you had to quote from several of the worst translations in order to support this erroneous claim. The Hebrew word for temple is hêykâl. I’m pretty sure you know how to use a lexicon because I’m pretty sure I’ve seen you quote from them before. So let’s examine the passages from the Torah.

“He shall live with you in your midst, in the place which he shall choose in one of your towns where it pleases him; you shall not mistreat him. “None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute, nor shall any of the sons of Israel be a cult prostitute. You shall not bring the hire of a harlot or the wages of a dog into the house of the Lord your God for any votive offering, for both of these are an abomination to the Lord your God.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭23‬:‭16‬-‭18‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

How many towns did the Israelites have in the wilderness? This is a prophetic statement about what will take place in the promised land. They haven’t entered the promised land yet because they didn’t cross the Jordan into the promised land until after Moses died. The Israelites didn’t have any towns yet, they lived in a camp. They had a tabernacle not a temple. That’s why the word Temple doesn’t actually appear in the Torah. The two passages you quoted from Exodus are also commandments concerning the future temple that hasn’t been built yet.

 

[David Lamb]

Hi David
Thank you for your reply no need to apologise I can be difficult to understand sometimes but thank you.
I think under standing creation is important and it makes more sense to apply it to the time after the flood everything created before the flood died in the flood ceased to be so God began again the onlything he needed to create was man in the image of God which is Jesus Christ at his second coming.
What is your thoughts on when Jesus cured the blind man and when he looked he saw men walking like trees did Christ make a mistake unthinkable he had cured his spiritual blindness he is showing us we must see the creation account as symbolic not literally

Love and Peace
Dave

Thanks Dave. Regarding the blind man who at first saw men as trees walking, I believe it to be either to strengthen the man's faith, or as Trapp says: "to instruct men in their degrees and progresses of spiritual illumination, to give God the glory wholly, both for the beginning and for the accomplishment. He is author and finisher of our faith." I don't think it is teaching us to see the creation account as symbolic - so many passages in both Testaments speak of Creation as fact.

 

[Job 33:6]

Look if you can’t even be honest about the discussion then why bother? First of all the Torah is the 5 books written by Moses not the entire Old Testament. The first Jewish temple was built by Solomon at least 300 years after Moses died. The verses you’re quoting are not God’s temple, that’s why you had to quote from several of the worst translations in order to support this erroneous claim. The Hebrew word for temple is hêykâl. I’m pretty sure you know how to use a lexicon because I’m pretty sure I’ve seen you quote from them before. So let’s examine the passages from the Torah.

“He shall live with you in your midst, in the place which he shall choose in one of your towns where it pleases him; you shall not mistreat him. “None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute, nor shall any of the sons of Israel be a cult prostitute. You shall not bring the hire of a harlot or the wages of a dog into the house of the Lord your God for any votive offering, for both of these are an abomination to the Lord your God.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭23‬:‭16‬-‭18‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

How many towns did the Israelites have in the wilderness? This is a prophetic statement about what will take place in the promised land. They haven’t entered the promised land yet because they didn’t cross the Jordan into the promised land until after Moses died. The Israelites didn’t have any towns yet, they lived in a camp. They had a tabernacle not a temple. That’s why the word Temple doesn’t actually appear in the Torah. The two passages you quoted from Exodus are also commandments concerning the future temple that hasn’t been built yet.

When you're ready to come to terms with the reality that there were temples, be them Babylonian, such as the tower of babel, or be them Egyptian, for which there were countless, in the time of Moses, I'll be here. Otherwise, your position is just absolutely ludicrous.


Deuteronomy 23:18 CEB
[18] Don’t bring a female prostitute’s fee or a male prostitute’s payment to the LORD your God’s temple to pay a solemn promise because both of these things are detestable to the LORD your God.

This idea that Moses didn't know what a temple was, is the most absurd argument that I've heard in a long time. Or that perhaps the Israelites didn't know what a temple was, even though the tabernacle was constructed just as Egyptian temples were.

Your lack of education on the matter is not my problem.

And I never said that the Israelites had built their own temple. Yes, of course they were in the wilderness. But that doesn't mean that they didn't know what temples were. They came out of Egypt where there were plenty of pagan temples. The tower of babel, a ziggurat, was also a temple.

The tabernacle served this purpose as a place of sacred worship, in this time when they had no actual building structure as other nations did.

"The two passages you quoted from Exodus are also commandments concerning the future temple that hasn’t been built yet."

Ok, great! So you acknowledge that they knew what temples were. Good job! Round of applause! And how did they know about temples?

That's right! Temples already existed!

Yay! You did it!

When Moses and the Israelites were escaping Egypt, and Pharaoh was chasing after them, Pharaoh of course had his own gods that he worshiped.

Do you think that pharaoh didn't yet have pagan temples? That's wrong of course. Many ancient Egyptian pagan temples from the age of Moses still exist today.

Josephs wife, she came from a religious Egyptian city. Heliopolis. Do you deny that this city had temples?

Heliopolis - World Archaeology

Heliopolis had the largest boundary of any Ancient Egyptian temple, but little of this extraordinary religious complex remains visible today. As the modern Cairo suburbs advanced ever deeper into the former home of the sun god Ra, a project was set up to record the archaeology of Heliopolis...

www.world-archaeology.com

Leviticus 18:3 CEB
[3] You must not do things like they are done in the land of Egypt, where you used to live. And you must not do things like they are done in the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you. You must not follow the practices of those places.

Moses, whatever could you mean?

Oh that's right! Pagan worship, in temples!

3,000-year-old Canaanite temple discovered in buried city in Israel

A 3,000-year-old temple, built by the Canaanites around the time of the ancient Israelite invasion, has been unearthed in southern Israel.

www.livescience.com

Karnak - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Luxor Temple - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Lots and lots of temples were around in Babylon, Egypt, Canaan, etc.

The tower of babel was a temple:

Ziggurats: Size, Architecture and the Tower of Babel | Middle East And North Africa — Facts and Details

africame.factsanddetails.com

There were lots and lots of temples in Moses' time. And to say otherwise, is just completely false.

Of course the Israelites didn't have their own temple while they were in exile (if we exclude the tabernacle), but that doesn't mean that there weren't any temples around at or before the time of Moses. There were lots of temples around back then, many that were far far older than Moses as well, thousands of years older.

 

[Job 33:6]

The problem with this idea is that there never was a temple before or when Genesis was written.

This is the most wrong statement of the month right here. Doesn't get more incorrect than this.

This is one of the worst arguments against a cosmic temple view of Genesis that I've ever heard.

 

[BNR32FAN]

When you're ready to come to terms with the reality that there were temples, be them Babylonian, such as the tower of babel, or be them Egyptian, for which there were countless, in the time of Moses, I'll be here. Otherwise, your position is just absolutely ludicrous.


Deuteronomy 23:18 CEB
[18] Don’t bring a female prostitute’s fee or a male prostitute’s payment to the LORD your God’s temple to pay a solemn promise because both of these things are detestable to the LORD your God.

This idea that Moses didn't know what a temple was, is the most absurd argument that I've heard in a long time. Or that perhaps the Israelites didn't know what a temple was, even though the tabernacle was constructed just as Egyptian temples were.

Your lack of education on the matter is not my problem.

And I never said that the Israelites had built their own temple. Yes, of course they were in the wilderness. But that doesn't mean that they didn't know what temples were. They came out of Egypt where there were plenty of pagan temples. The tower of babel, a ziggurat, was also a temple.

The tabernacle served this purpose as a place of sacred worship, in this time when they had no actual building structure as other nations did.

"The two passages you quoted from Exodus are also commandments concerning the future temple that hasn’t been built yet."

Ok, great! So you acknowledge that they knew what temples were. Good job! Round of applause! And how did they know about temples?

That's right! Temples already existed!

Yay! You did it!

When Moses and the Israelites were escaping Egypt, and Pharaoh was chasing after them, Pharaoh of course had his own gods that he worshiped.

Do you think that pharaoh didn't yet have pagan temples? That's wrong of course. Many ancient Egyptian pagan temples from the age of Moses still exist today.

Josephs wife, she came from a religious Egyptian city. Heliopolis. Do you deny that this city had temples?

Heliopolis - World Archaeology

Heliopolis had the largest boundary of any Ancient Egyptian temple, but little of this extraordinary religious complex remains visible today. As the modern Cairo suburbs advanced ever deeper into the former home of the sun god Ra, a project was set up to record the archaeology of Heliopolis...

www.world-archaeology.com

Leviticus 18:3 CEB
[3] You must not do things like they are done in the land of Egypt, where you used to live. And you must not do things like they are done in the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you. You must not follow the practices of those places.

Moses, whatever could you mean?

Oh that's right! Pagan worship, in temples!

3,000-year-old Canaanite temple discovered in buried city in Israel

A 3,000-year-old temple, built by the Canaanites around the time of the ancient Israelite invasion, has been unearthed in southern Israel.

www.livescience.com

Karnak - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Luxor Temple - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Lots and lots of temples were around in Babylon, Egypt, Canaan, etc.

The tower of babel was a temple:

Ziggurats: Size, Architecture and the Tower of Babel | Middle East And North Africa — Facts and Details

africame.factsanddetails.com

There were lots and lots of temples in Moses' time. And to say otherwise, is just completely false.

Of course the Israelites didn't have their own temple while they were in exile (if we exclude the tabernacle), but that doesn't mean that there weren't any temples around at or before the time of Moses. There were lots of temples around back then, many that were far far older than Moses as well, thousands of years older.

I never said that Moses didn’t know what a temple was. That was your insertion into the discussion not mine. I said the Israelites didn’t have a temple yet because the temple wasn’t built IN THE WILDERNESS. The Torah was written by Moses who never entered into the promised land. If you can’t admit that truth then that’s your problem not mine.

 

[Job 33:6]

I never said that Moses didn’t know what a temple was. That was your insertion into the discussion not mine. I said the Israelites didn’t have a temple yet because the temple wasn’t built IN THE WILDERNESS. The Torah was written by Moses who never entered into the promised land. If you can’t admit that truth then that’s your problem not mine.

Here's what you said, and I'll. I'll quote.

"The problem with this idea is that there never was a temple before or when Genesis was written."

Now are you going to accept that you said something that was blatantly wrong, or are you going to continue to change the subject?

I never said that the Israelites had a temple, did I? Obviously they didn't have a temple, but that's not what the discussion is about.

The problem is that you said something that was blatantly wrong, this idea that there weren't temples around in the time of Moses.

This statement of yours is just blatantly wrong. There were plenty of temples around, temples in Egypt, temples in Babylon, temples in Canaan. The Tower of Babel is a temple etc. and that's literally in Genesis.

And I'm going to move on now, I'm not going to bother wasting my time with people making false claims.

You'll never understand the Bible if you can't even accept this basic concept And admit that you said something false.

The Israelites did not need to have their own physical Temple for Genesis to be about a temple, they only needed to have the broader idea of what temples were. And that's all that's necessary for the cosmic temple understanding of Genesis.

And there were lots of temples around when Genesis was written. Including the tower of Babel which is in Genesis.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Here's what you said, and I'll. I'll quote.

"The problem with this idea is that there never was a temple before or when Genesis was written."

Now are you going to accept that you said something that was blatantly wrong, or are you going to continue to change the subject?

I never said that the Israelites had a temple, did I? Obviously they didn't have a temple, but that's not what the discussion is about.

The problem is that you said something that was blatantly wrong, this idea that there weren't temples around in the time of Moses.

This statement of yours is just blatantly wrong. There were plenty of temples around, temples in Egypt, temples in Babylon, temples in Canaan. The Tower of Babel is a temple etc. and that's literally in Genesis.

And I'm going to move on now, I'm not going to bother wasting my time with people making false claims.

You'll never understand the Bible if you can't even accept this basic concept And admit that you said something false.

The Israelites did not need to have their own physical Temple for Genesis to be about a temple, they only needed to have the broader idea of what temples were. And that's all that's necessary for the cosmic temple understanding of Genesis.

And there were lots of temples around when Genesis was written. Including the tower of Babel which is in Genesis.

Ok but the original context of my reply was in response to the Israelite 7 day inauguration of the temple which is specific to the Israelite’s temple. So that’s the context of my first post when I said temple. In my second post I made it clear that I was referring to the Israelite temple of God. What do temples of other nations have to do with the Israelite 7 day inauguration?

 

[Job 33:6]

Ok but the original context of my reply was in response to the Israelite 7 day inauguration of the temple which is specific to the Israelite’s temple. So that’s the context of my first post when I said temple. In my second post I made it clear that I was referring to the Israelite temple of God. What do temples of other nations have to do with the Israelite 7 day inauguration?

No, it's not specific to any temple of the Israelites, not in any physical structural sense. You're just making one false claim after another.

Please educate yourself on the cosmic temple view of Genesis before straw-manning it. Thank you. There is a reason its referred to as the "cosmic temple" and not some other name of a physical temple.

There is nothing about the cosmic temple understanding of Genesis that suggests that the Isrealites had their own physical temple.

 

[Platte]

I thank God for allowing Moses to gives us recorded history of the Jewish people including a historical account of how God created the earth and the entire universe in 6 days. By providing us with a nice chronological record Moses was able to show us when creation was - approx 6000 years ago. The Bible is an amazing book - The Word of God

 

[BNR32FAN]

No, it's not specific to any temple of the Israelites, not in any physical structural sense. You're just making one false claim after another.

Please educate yourself on the cosmic temple view of Genesis before straw-manning it. Thank you. There is a reason its referred to as the "cosmic temple" and not some other name of a physical temple.

There is nothing about the cosmic temple understanding of Genesis that suggests that the Isrealites had their own physical temple.

Watching a commentary video isn’t studying it’s blindly believing whatever someone else tells you and hoping he knows what he’s talking about. Much like the videos you posted about the creation account coming from Egyptian creation myths that I debunked. They’re not even remotely similar.

 

[Job 33:6]

Watching a commentary video isn’t studying it’s blindly believing whatever someone else tells you and hoping he knows what he’s talking about. Much like the videos you posted about the creation account coming from Egyptian creation myths that I debunked. They’re not even remotely similar.

You haven't actually debunked anything though.

You made some false argument about a cosmic temple understanding of Genesis having to do with the Israelites needing to have a temple. Which is just not the case. Of course the Israelites didn't have their own temple. I'm not sure why you would think that this is important.

And there's really nothing to debunk about the Egyptian context of Genesis. It's just a fact about the history of the text. Genesis describes the same cosmology as other ancient near east creation texts.

The Israelites wouldn't need to have their own temple in order for Genesis to be about a 7-day temple inauguration.

 

[Semper-Fi]

And I suppose to be fair, the Israelites alongside Moses didn't have their own temple.

They did not need a temple; Moses never wanted a temple.
The Israelites where slaves, not sure even allowed in a temple.

They were wandering in the desert. They didn't have the resources.

God supplied everything they needed, food, water clothing. If God wanted
to build a temple in the wilderness he would have supplied the materials.

Deuteronomy 1:33 (KJV) "who went in the way before you, to search
you out a place to pitch your tents in, fire by night, to shew you by
what way ye should go, and in a cloud by day. Jeremiah 10:23

Hence why we see them building the tabernacle which serves as their place of worship.

A portable earthly [dwelling of God] used by the Israelites from the Exodus
until after conquest of Canaan. No need to build anything permeant before.

But they didn't just magically come up with the idea to build the tabernacle.

Yes you are right they didn't just magically come up with the idea.
But you are wrong it had anything to do with any temple in Egypt, it was [Gods idea].

Moses was instructed at Mount Sinai to construct and transport
the tabernacle with the Israelites on their journey through the
wilderness and their subsequent conquest of the Promised Land.

God commanded Moses to build a sanctuary for Him, so that
He may dwell among them. The command is found in Exodus 25:8-9.

God showed Moses exactly how to build the tabernacle and
commanded him to make everything “after their pattern,
which was shewed thee in the mount”

God was against all the gods of Egypt have you not read. God did
not tell Moses to make it like other pagan tabernacle/temples.
x
some 400 years later

It was Kind David that wanted to build a perminet place for God.
King David was concerned He had a nice place, but God dwelt
within curtains. King David did not design the first temple,
nor was it just another temple like Egypt had in the past.
Also God has choisen Jersalem, nothing can change this fact.

2 Samuel 7 The House of the Lord

1And it came to pass, when the king sat in his house, and the LORD had
given him rest round about from all his enemies; 2that the king[David] said
unto Nathan the prophet, See now, I dwell in an house of cedar, but the ark
of God dwelleth within curtains. 3And Nathan said to the king, Go, do all
that is in thine heart; for the LORD is with thee.

The first Temple built by Solomon was constructed from plans given
by God to David. When God refused David permission to build the Temple
(2 Samuel 7 and 1 Chronicles 17), David took the plans and gave them to
his son and designated heir, Solomon (1 Chronicles 28:1–19).

Solomon constructed the Temple according to those plans.
Solomon did not make the Temple by his or any mans design.

Egyptian temples are centuries and sometimes thousands of years older than Moses.

So? What does that have to do with anything here.
Moses did not design the tabernacle, God did.
Moses did not design the first temple, God did.

Next you will claim [the original in Heaven] was just patterned after
a pagan Egyptian temple to teach them a Leson or something.

I have looked at Egyptian temples you post, none looks anything
like Gods Temple or Tabernacle. Can you find anything the same?

 

[Job 33:6]

I have looked at Egyptian temples you post, none looks anything
like Gods Temple or Tabernacle. Can you find anything the same?

Great. Thank you for affirming the existence of God's temple related command in Exodus. This is helpful for affirming the theological value of such a thing in the eyes of Moses.

Saying that it was "God's idea" makes the cosmic temple position even more valid by Dem narrating that God's cosmic temple originated as something divinely inspired.

 

[Yarddog]

Hi
Creation again how should we read the creation account in Genesis I believe it should be understood starting when Noah stepped of the Ark and God began a new creation the only thing he needed to create was mankind in his image which would be Jesus Christ and the multitude of believers he presents to the father on the beginning of the 7th day of creation.
Each day of creation would be a 1000 years long and began with Noah and everything on the ark.

Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters

This describes the world when God flooded the world water covered the world to the tops of the mountains.

Love and Peace
Dave

I see a much deeper meaning to Genesis. An allegorical series of events which reveal the glory of God. Genesis 1:2 tells of a world without GOD fully revealed. Let there be light, is Jesus Christ coming into the world.

The flood is baptism. The Ark is the Church. The waters is the Spirit of God which washes away sin. The many different animals are the Gentiles, as described in Peters vision. The waters covered the whole earth is Christianity spreading out across the world, full of God's Spirit.

The first thing Noah did was plant a vineyard, which is Jesus, and he became intoxicated on the fruit of the vine. He lay naked in his tent, just as Adam was created naked, or bare before God. God sees all.

Genesis is a wonder book, full of life. It has so much to tell us about God.