the three woes

[Douggg]

Revelation 12 does not contain the word third

It does not have to. John informs the readers In Revelation 11:14 that the third woe (to the inhabiters of the earth) comes quickly - what it will be.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

[tailgator]

It does not have to. John informs the readers In Revelation 11:14 that the third woe (to the inhabiters of the earth) comes quickly - what it will be.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

In revelation 11,John described the third woe as the wrath of God


John does not describe the 3rd woe in revelation 12.

 

[Douggg]

In revelation 11,John described the third woe as the wrath of God

Revelation 11:18 does not contain the phrase "woe to the inhabiters of the earth".

John does not describe the 3rd woe in revelation 12.

Revelation 12:12 contains the phrase "woe to the inhabiter of the earth".

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

[tailgator]

Revelation 11:18 does not contain the phrase "woe to the inhabiters of the earth".


Revelation 12:12 contains the phrase "woe to the inhabiter of the earth".

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Thats why revelation 12 is not the third woe.


Revelation 11 is the third woe and it is described as the wrath of God.

God cleans house in revelation 11 destroying them who destroy the earth.

 

[tailgator]

Revelation 11:15-18 does not contain the phrase "woe to the inhabiters of the earth".

Revelation 12:12 contains the phrase "woe to the inhabiter of the earth"

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Note where the third woe is located

Revelation 11(Not 12)
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

Third woe is described as time of God's wrath when he destroys them which destroy the earth .


Revelation 11
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.




This is the time of God's wrath.Not the devil's.

 

[Douggg]

Note where the third woe is located

Revelation 11(Not 12)
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

Third woe is described as time of God's wrath when he destroys them which destroy the earth .


Revelation 11
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.




This is the time of God's wrath.Not the devil's.

You are confusing the mystery of God with the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth..

Revelation 11:18 is the mystery of God referred to in Revelation 10:7.

7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Revelation 11:18 - the mystery of God to be finished, in the days of the voice of the seventh angel.

Revelation 12:12 - the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth.


The days of the voice of the seventh angel is the time, times, half time of Revelation 12:12-14.

 

[Timtofly]

3rd woe is wrath of God.

The woes are not wrath.

The woes are Satan's "counterparts" to the last 3 Trumpets. Trumpets are not woes, but judgment events from God.

The events of the Trumpets are different than the woe events.

Satan is most definitely involved in all 3 woes.

The wrath of God is contained in the 7 vials, not any of the 3 woes.

 

[tailgator]

You are confusing the mystery of God with the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth..

Revelation 11:18 is the mystery of God referred to in Revelation 10:7.

7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Revelation 11:18 - the mystery of God to be finished, in the days of the voice of the seventh angel.

Revelation 12:12 - the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth.


The days of the voice of the seventh angel is the time, times, half time of Revelation 12:12-14.

God destroying them who destroy the earth is not a mystery..They are cast into a lake of fire..

There is no third in revelation 12.
The third woe is in revelation 11.

This is the third woe when God destroys them who destroy the earth.

Revelation 11

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.



There is no third in revelation. 12

 

[tailgator]

The woes are not wrath.

The woes are Satan's "counterparts" to the last 3 Trumpets. Trumpets are not woes, but judgment events from God.

The events of the Trumpets are different than the woe events.

Satan is most definitely involved in all 3 woes.

The wrath of God is contained in the 7 vials, not any of the 3 woes.

So you believe the wrath of God in this verse is not the wrath of God .

Revelation 11
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

In revelation 11:18 above,who's wrath is come?

 

[Douggg]

There is no third in revelation. 12

There is no third in Revelation 11:18. There is no woe to the inhabiters of the earth in Revelation 11:18

There is the woe to the inhabiters of the earth in Revelation 12:12.

 

[tailgator]

There is no third in Revelation 11:18. There is no woe to the inhabiters of the earth in Revelation 11:18

There is the woe to the inhabiters of the earth in Revelation 12:12.

Yes there is a third woe in revelation 11.

It takes place after the second woe is past.​

Revelation 11​

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.​

There is no third woe in revelation 12.

 

[Douggg]

Yes there is a third woe in revelation 11.

There is no phrase woe to the inhabiters of the earth in Revelation 11.

It takes place after the second woe is past.

No, the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth, what it will be, is in Revelation 12:12. Revelation 11:14 is John alerting the reader that what the second woe will be, has been shown (in Revelation 9.13-21). And that it will quickly be shown what the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth will be (in Revelation 12:12).

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Revelation 11:15-18 is the reaction to the sounding of the seventh angel.

Revelation 11:15 is the rejoice ye heavens. The great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Revelation 11:16-17 is the rejoice ye that dwell in them. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

Revelation 11:18 is the summary of the mystery of God to be finished in the days of the voice of the seventh angel - Revelation 10:7

Revelation 12:14 the time, times, half time is the days of the voice of the seventh angel.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

The text highlighted in red is not a woe, but reward. The phrase woe to the inhabiters of the earth is not in Revelation 11:18.

 

[tailgator]

There is no phrase woe to the inhabiters of the earth in Revelation 11.


No, the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth, what it will be, is in Revelation 12:12. Revelation 11:14 is John alerting the reader that what the second woe will be, has been shown (in Revelation 9.13-21). And that it will quickly be shown what the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth will be (in Revelation 12:12).

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Revelation 11:15-18 is the reaction to the sounding of the seventh angel.

Revelation 11:15 is the rejoice ye heavens.

Revelation 11:16-17 is the rejoice ye that dwell in them.

Revelation 11:18 is the summary of the mystery of God to be finished in the days of the voice of the seventh angel - Revelation 10:7

Revelation 12:14 the time, times, half time is the days of the voice of the seventh angel.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

The text highlighted in red is not a woe, but reward. The phrase woe to the inhabiters of the earth is not in Revelation 11:18.

False
There is no third woe in revelation 12

The third woe is in revelation 11 and takes place after the second woe.


Here is the third woe as of recorded by John.

Revelation 11​

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.​

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

 

[tailgator]

There is no phrase woe to the inhabiters of the earth in Revelation 11.


No, the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth, what it will be, is in Revelation 12:12. Revelation 11:14 is John alerting the reader that what the second woe will be, has been shown (in Revelation 9.13-21). And that it will quickly be shown what the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth will be (in Revelation 12:12).

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Revelation 11:15-18 is the reaction to the sounding of the seventh angel.

Revelation 11:15 is the rejoice ye heavens. The great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Revelation 11:16-17 is the rejoice ye that dwell in them. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

Revelation 11:18 is the summary of the mystery of God to be finished in the days of the voice of the seventh angel - Revelation 10:7

Revelation 12:14 the time, times, half time is the days of the voice of the seventh angel.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

The text highlighted in red is not a woe, but reward. The phrase woe to the inhabiters of the earth is not in Revelation 11:18.

I'm not sure why you believe the devil has power to persecute the saints after Christ comes and recieves his kingdom in revelation 11.


15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.


Why do you believe the devil has power after Christ comes and resurects the dead?
What do you believe the devil has power to kill the resurected saints and prophets of God?

 

[Douggg]

If the third woe chronologically follows the second woe, then why aren't the Revelation 11:15-18 verses in Revelation 9, as Revelation 9:22-25 ?

Why does the discussion of the woes stop and Revelation 10 begin and Revelation 11:13 take place before there discussion of the woes begin again ?


It is because the third woe begins after the two witnesses have left this earth. And is Satan cast down to earth have great wrath, because he has but a short time left. And at some point in the time, times, half time, Satan opens the bottomless pit and the first woe takse place over the course of 5 months.

 

[Douggg]

False
There is no third woe in revelation 12

The third woe is in revelation 11 and takes place after the second woe.


Here is the third woe as of recorded by John.

Revelation 11​

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.​

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

Revelation 11:15-19 is the reaction in heaven when the seventh angel sounds his trumpet.

 

[tailgator]

If the third woe chronologically follows the second woe, then why aren't the Revelation 11:15-18 verses in Revelation 9, as Revelation 9:22-25 ?

Why does the discussion of the woes stop and Revelation 10 begin and Revelation 11:13 take place before there discussion of the woes begin again ?


It is because the third woe begins after the two witnesses have left this earth. And is Satan cast down to earth have great wrath, because he has but a short time left. And at some point the time, times, half time, Satan opens the bottomless pit and the first woe takse place over the course of 5 months.



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Revelation 11​

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.​

You are asking me why the third woe comes after the second woe

Why is it so hard for you to understand this one verse?

 

[tailgator]

Revelation 11:15-19 is the reaction in heaven when the seventh angel sounds his trumpet.

False
The kingdoms of this world who belong to Christ after the seventh angel sounds are in this world.Not in the sky.And the people who are destroyed during the third woe are them who destroy the earth.They are not in heaven They are in on earth.


Revelation 11
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.


18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.



Them who destroy the earth are not in heaven.They are on earth.They are inhabiters of the earth

 

[Douggg]

I'm not sure why you believe the devil has power to persecute the saints after Christ comes and recieves his kingdom in revelation 11.

Revelation 11:15 does not say that Christ had come. It is saying that the end of nearly 6000 years time of Satan and his angels deception of the nations has arrived. That is why Satan has great wrath because he knows that when cast down to earth the time of his end has arrived.

During the time, times, half time of his wrath to the inhabiters of the earth - Satan will be a terror, Ezekiel 28:19 below.


Ezekiel 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

 

[Douggg]

Revelation 11​

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.​

You are asking me why the third woe comes after the second woe

No, I am asking you....why doesn't Revelation 11:15-18 follow directly after Revelation 9:21 as being part of the Revelation 9 verses?