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It's a massage, not medical treatment.

Health insurance doesn't pay for massages in the US because they aren't considered medical treatment.

Maybe it's different where you're from but here, even with a referral and prescription from a doctor it's unlikely most insurance providers would cover massages.
My insurer covers it. My employer also has one come in weekly for employees to use bi-weekly for free.
 
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Is that not the problem the OP is concerned about?

He seemed ok with her getting massages until her learned the details.



Yeah maybe...there's certainly ways to find out.




Again, he clearly is uncomfortable with what he learned is happening.




Did I say something about assaulted? I simply said it was a way to suggest that she quit the massages that wasn't accusatory.




We aren't discussing my problems?



I have.




Whoa whoa whoa....I'm not your husband. You can't possibly gaslight me. Let's not pretend infidelity isn't a thing.




Is she here seeking help or is the husband?

A man seeks help....you invent fantasies about his wife being bi-curious.

Maybe you shouldn't be trying to help.



We're men lol...do you think none of us have ever slept with a married woman? Do you think none of us have known married women who cheat? Do you think none of us have ever been cheated on?

What simple land are you from and how did get the internet there?
Yadda yadda yadda, men great, women bad. Insult my husband, insult me, insult women who do things without husband’s approval, excuse men, blame women, men control your wives, women do what you are told, and repeat. Though I will say it is novel of you to admit women aren’t safe around men.
 
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? I never thought that you could really help me. I usually think the same about all my radically left friends.
Well, admitting it is the first step.
? The OP is singular person so there is no other OP. And the OP and I have had no "banter".
Let’s not be deliberately obtuse.
Yes, that's the problem. Hard to argue with how someone feels.
lol, way to parse out a chunk of a sentence to avoid answering the whole of the sentiment.
Wow, two posters in the same thread with the uncanny ability to read minds. Methinks you are projecting onto me that from which you suffer.
So somebody else noticed this trait in you? Interesting.
How long have you suffered from your dislike/despise of authority?
I don’t. Sounds like you’re the one person projecting now.
No surprise there.
What can I say? I know what a good man is.
 
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Often a trait for those who despise authority is to judge others as if they are the only authority that matters.
Well, like I said, your admitting you have a problem is a good first step. Now how will you learn and grow?
 
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I have no idea what you're referring to.

Obviously.

I have a very clear idea, thank you. But for most of us, who live far from war, it is irrelevant to what men are "entitled" to in relationships.

Far from war? Where is that?

And I find the idea that "I protect you from some other guy, so you better do as I say," is basically just thuggery. No better than a mob "protection" racket.

No that's just reality. Were all the women to up and leave your nation, the men would swiftly offer your place to different women...and they'd be glad to come.

Were all the men to just up and leave...you'd swiftly be overrun by other men.



Gotcha. You don't believe women should have alimony.


Sure we can. Measure flexibility, muscle function,

That would be a physical therapist. Physical therapy is typically very painful and involves a process of regaining function of some muscle group or mobility.

It's pretty far from a massage....which is generally just physical pleasure.

I mean, I know reports of pain are somewhat subjective

Exactly.
 
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Well, admitting it is the first step.
It's not an admission; it's acknowledging the obvious.
Let’s not be deliberately obtuse.
Good advice. But if you cannot grasp what is being posted just say so.
... way to parse out a chunk of a sentence to avoid answering the whole of the sentiment.
You do know that sentiment is just a synonym for a feeling, right? Perhaps more enduring but that's all. And I've answered that in your sentiments you are absolutely the authority. Now put your emotions aside and tell us how you think, for we can only argue about that.
So somebody else noticed this trait in you? Interesting.
Yes, it's the other poster's modus operandi aka, straw manning. Useful when one has no rational argument to put forth. You have fallen into the same fallacy. Or did I mistake what is clearly just another emotional rant as being a rational argument? Cite the post.
I don’t. Sounds like you’re the one person projecting now.
Predictable response. Just another attempt to appear clever. No one like to hear the negative truth about themselves.
What can I say? I know what a good man is
Of course you do. You report that you married one and called him a "happy, secure, confident, 'milk toast' husband".
Well, like I said, your admitting you have a problem is a good first step.
One who is in denial does not admit they have a problem. So, how long have you despised those in authority over you?
 
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It's not an admission; it's acknowledging the obvious.
Whatever you want to call it, I’m acknowledging your progress.
Good advice. But if you cannot grasp what is being posted just say so.
I’m fine.
You do know that sentiment is just a synonym for a feeling, right? Perhaps more enduring but that's all. And I've answered that in your sentiments you are absolutely the authority. Now put your emotions aside and tell us how you think, for we can only argue about that.
Word salad.
Yes, it's the other poster's modus operandi aka, straw manning. Useful when one has no rational argument to put forth. You have fallen into the same fallacy. Or did I mistake what is clearly just another emotional rant as being a rational argument? Cite the post.
I notice you’re one of those guys who just labels women “emotional” as a means to dismiss them even when they aren’t being emotional. Interesting.
Predictable response. Just another attempt to appear clever. No one like to hear the negative truth about themselves.
Again, your admitting it is half the battle.
Of course you do. You report that you married one and called him a "happy, secure, confident, 'milk toast' husband".
Shall I explain to you how quotes work, lol!
One who is in denial does not admit they have a problem. So, how long have you despised those in authority over you?
I have no problem with authority. I just don’t see you as an authority and don’t particularly respect you.
 
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I have no problem with authority. I just don’t see you as an authority and don’t particularly respect you.
Does that mean you don't love me? So, if true then do the right thing and just stop hitting on me.

Oh, I forgot for a moment ... you see only yourself as deserving respect just as you think you are the ultimate authority in this thread. "Happy trails to you ..." (NB: the rest of that song does not apply.)
 
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Does that mean you don't love me? So, if true then do the right thing and just stop hitting on me.
LoL, wow. Keep dreaming.
Oh, I forgot for a moment ... you see only yourself as deserving respect just as you think you are the ultimate authority in this thread. "Happy trails to you ..." (NB: the rest of that song does not apply.)
I’m not going to pretend I’m not knowledgeable on a subject because a couple of guys have a hard time with not being as informed and rational as a woman on a particular topic. Sorry about your luck.
 
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Really? What insurance?
LoL, it really sticks in your craw to be wrong, doesn’t it?

I have Anthem Blue Cross. Would you like my policy number? A phone number to call and verify? Call to my doctor to verify?

Cigna covers it too. So does Tricare, but it has to be done by a physical therapist as part of physical therapy. Cigna and Blue Cross aren’t as particular. A doctor to recommend it, a treatment plan, and then you pick from a list of covered providers, which is basically everybody. You pay at the time of the service, insurance reimburses within 14 days.
 
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If so then why do Anglican priest take an oath of obedience to their bishop? It seems, as you explain it, the imposition on the priest is minimal if anything at all ... the priest obeys his bishop if the code requires his obedience. And, if the matter is not covered as an issue in the code, the priest who wills to disobey his bishop can lawyer-up and oppose/sue his bishop in the canonical court.
We take an oath of obedience because, in our ministry, we are not operating on our own, but on behalf of the bishop. So the bishop can - for example, as he did last week - tell me to change the pattern of services in my parish, and my answer is to say "Yes, bishop," and do it.

However, that's about ministry. It's about what I do, as a priest, on behalf of the bishop. It is not about my medical decisions, or my personal life. Yes, there are ethical boundaries on one's personal life, and that's where one can be held to account; but having a massage? That's not an ethical or professional standards issue.
Far from war? Where is that?
Where I live, for a start.
No that's just reality.
You might promote a gendered protection racket as reality. For many of us, it's not the reality of our relationships, nor is it an ideal to which we intend to conform.
 
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Cigna covers it too. So does Tricare, but it has to be done by a physical therapist as part of physical therapy. Cigna and Blue Cross aren’t as particular. A doctor to recommend it, a treatment plan, and then you pick from a list of covered providers, which is basically everybody. You pay at the time of the service, insurance reimburses within 14 days.

Right since there's no mention of doctors nor physical therapists we can safely assume this isn't medical.

I've never had any problems admitting I'm wrong in the past....but we need not entertain wild or unlikely theories.
 
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Right since there's no mention of doctors nor physical therapists we can safely assume this isn't medical.
That wasn’t the question I was answering though, was it?

I've never had any problems admitting I'm wrong in the past....but we need not entertain wild or unlikely theories.
He says just moments after making a theory, lol.
 
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Where I live, for a start.

Profile says Australia.


And this....


You're still wrong. You're not far from war in any meaningful way.


You might promote a gendered protection racket as reality.

It's just reality. It's not gendered lol.

Your entire nation was created by men, continues to exist because of men, is protected by men, would immediately fail and disappear without men.
 
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