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Harris was all about killing babies in their mother’s womb.
Hey! Women can no longer kill their own children in the name of “choice”
Do you know that Nixon resigned from office? Do you know that Biden has not resigned and is still your President?
Don't get me wrong. I'm quite pleased that someone as unelectable as Harris was the candidate.
Nope, since Harris is a lawyer, not an OB/GYN.
And yet, Trump thinks abortion decisions should be left to the states, not the Federal government, so electing him doesn't seem likely to do anything whatsoever about abortion in any way at all.
Yeah. What has that to do with what you said earlier?
Opinion noted. What has that to do with what you said earlier?
Oh, is that how you're going to play it?
Having a physician perform a surgical procedure on you is very much a medical decision. Regardless of your moral views on such procedures.
Not the point I was making, nor the one the previous poster was going for. He was making a point about the process US democracy uses to choose its President.
I wasn't trying to. I merely offered my own opinion on the matter.
Well that's unnecessarily accusatory. To play what? I said a few things in this thread and I wanted to know exactly what you were referring to.
I totally agree, stuff happens. Presidents resign, they get assassinated, the Democratic party becomes so awful that out of a nation of hundreds of millions of people their best choice for president was a corrupt, racist career politician on the verge of dementia so he has to be given the hook and replaced. I get it, stuff happens.
When I said that In a democracy candidates are supposed to be elected, my point was that in a democracy candidates are supposed to be elected.
I'd just quoted the exact thing I was referring to in the previous post, and it was directly relating to what we were discussing. Seemed odd that you missed it completely. But, I apologize if I was unclear.
All to run against a corrupt, racist, convicted felon on the verge of dementia, it would seem. But, our personal feelings for any of the candidates in question aside, the fact that Harris came to be the party's nominee may have been unique, even unprecedented, but there was nothing illegal, wrong, or unconstitutional about it. And nothing about Harris' candidacy indicated she was a threat in any way to democracy, which is what you had implied in an earlier post.
Sure...but sometimes, that isn't what happens. And the situation with Harris may have been different than what happened in 1974, Ford's rise to the oval office shows us that it was far from the most unusual circumstance that arose from our election process. Using your implied argument, Ford would seem to have been far more of a threat to democracy than Harris could have been....and somehow, democracy survived. So, it's hard to see Harris' candidacy as any kind of a threat to democracy at all.
Ford's situation is not comparable. Nixon resigned the presidency. Biden has not, he is still president. Ford was not chosen by unknown behind-the-scenes characters to be a candidate.
Neither was Harris. Biden endorsed Harris to be the party's nominee, the party delegates agreed and supported her, just as they would have supported Biden had he stayed in the race. All according to established party rules.
Sure we do: Joe Biden.
If you're unclear on how parties decide their nominees, perhaps this will help:
www.usa.gov
Biden chose Harris to lead the nation, huh? I'm not trying to be mean here, my dear mother suffered from dementia, but he may barely even know who Harris is. He seems like he needs help finding matching socks.Neither was Harris. Biden endorsed Harris to be the party's nominee, the party delegates agreed and supported her, just as they would have supported Biden had he stayed in the race. All according to established party rules.
When Spiro Agnew resigned rather than be indicted, Nixon appointed Ford to be his VP, and Ford went on to be President when Nixon resigned. The main difference between Ford's circumstances and Harris' was that the voters didn't get to choose Ford as President. Harris did face the voters.
And, in both cases, democracy survives. No threats.
Sure we do: Joe Biden.
If you're unclear on how parties decide their nominees, perhaps this will help:
National conventions | USAGov
Understand how presidential and vice presidential nominees are selected at national political conventions. Learn about contested conventions and brokered conventions.
Basically, individual states decide who the delegates to the national convention are, and those delegates vote for the party's nominee based on the results of that state's primary or caucus. If this doesn't result in a clear nominee, then there are other rounds of voting, and other delegates, not specifically pledged to the winner of that state's primary or caucus can vote, and the results may differ. I don't recall that happening recently, though.
In this past election season, the delegates pledged to Biden because he won the various state primaries voted for Harris based on Biden's endorsement of her.
But, in any event, these delegates are not some "cabal" who has anything whatsoever to do with the office of the President, or aid in any way with his (or her) decision process. They are chosen by the party on the state level, in each respective state.
So, again, no threat to democracy here.
But, if you find this process unsettling, maybe you should try to work with other citizens to try and create legislation to change the system by which parties nominate their candidates. As it stands now, candidates are not chosen by the nation as a whole, but by the first few rounds of primaries. States that hold primaries later rarely have a say except to choose among those that remain after everyone else has voted. I think a single primary date for every state, so all vote at the same time, would be a better solution, personally.
-- A2SG, though, some people in Iowa and New Hampshire may disagree....who'd pay attention to them then?
