Pregnant Teenager Nevaeh Crain Died After Trying to Get Care in Three Visits to Texas Emergency Rooms

[rjs330]

Im curious....

how does the Texas law take care of women?

It makes sure they receive the emergency services they need.

 

[RileyG]

It makes sure they receive the emergency services they need.

I just hope the laws are implemented correctly, so women's lives are saved, speaking as a pro-life person.

 

[KCfromNC]

Perhaps doctors should just do their job because the law doesn't prevent that.

It is weird how acutal doctors listening to actual lawyers of their actual employers have come to a different conclusion.

 

[Goonie]

It is weird how acutal doctors listening to actual layers of their actual employers have come to a different conclusion.

I think you mean lawyers.

 

[FireDragon76]

Just another total failure of the medical profession. I'm not a doctor, but I know good and well that sepsis is a life threatening issue. She might have died anyway due to the sepsis. But there was a chance she could have been saved.

No, the failure is due to politicians telling doctors how to perform medicine.

The root of the sepsis was a dead or dying fetus. If you can't remove a large amount of diseased tissue like that from the body, then all the treatment in the world won't save the patient.

Apparently there was NO REASON not to address this immediately. The first time she was there they MISDIAGNOSED her. The second time there was NO REASON to withhold care.

I don't blame doctors for being scared for their personal safety, when the State threatens them with 99 years in prison. These stupid anti-abortion laws compromise the doctors' ability to deliver medical care.

 

[rjs330]

I just hope the laws are implemented correctly, so women's lives are saved, speaking as a pro-life person.

Totally agree. I wish the doctors would do their jobs correctly and save these women's lives. Apparently some have decided to. Others aren't.

 

[rjs330]

It is weird how acutal doctors listening to actual layers of their actual employers have come to a different conclusion.

It's weird that others are actually following the law and saving women. Wonder why others can't figure it out. Makes me think the medecal.prof3ssion in some places are playing politics with women's lives.

 

[rjs330]

No, the failure is due to politicians telling doctors how to perform medicine.

Nope, the doctors are refusing to perform the medicine.

The root of the sepsis was a dead or dying fetus. If you can't remove a large amount of diseased tissue like that from the body, then all the treatment in the world won't save the patient.

Every doctor know that sepsis is an emergency and WILL cause the death of someone if not immediately treated.

The law against abortion absolutely does not apply in this situation. Saving the mothers life is part and parcel of the law.

don't blame doctors for being scared for their personal safety, when the State threatens them with 99 years in prison. These stupid anti-abortion laws compromise the doctors' ability to deliver medical care.

No they don't. They law is clear. Save the womans life and you are fine. Thats what they are supposed to do.

 

[rambot]

Heres a letter that was signed by 150 obgyns in texas (i disnt bother downloading rhe other 2 pages of names).


So is it;
1) politicians in Texas
2) Randoms on the internet
3) doctors in Texas
who will provide the most informed opinions on the usefulness and appropriateness of Health related laws and their impact on their patients?

 

[KCfromNC]

I think you mean lawyers.

Thanks, fixed

 

[KCfromNC]

It's weird that others are actually following the law and saving women.

Which ones are those, specifically?

 

[wing2000]

Just another total failure of the medical profession. I'm not a doctor, but I know good and well that sepsis is a life threatening issue.

....nor are YOU responsible for the decisions maed in this case.

I think it's clear enough. If I was a doctor there i would have saved the girl. What kind of idiot doesn't know that sepsis is deadly if not treated immediately.

I think it's clear that you refuse to hold the Texas legislature accountable for writing poor legislation. Instead, you blame the medical professsion.

 

[rjs330]

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Heres a letter that was signed by 150 obgyns in texas (i disnt bother downloading rhe other 2 pages of names).


So is it;
1) politicians in Texas
2) Randoms on the internet
3) doctors in Texas
who will provide the most informed opinions on the usefulness and appropriateness of Health related laws and their impact on their patients?

150 obgyns that probably perform regular abortions and don't want to take responsibility for their actions.

 

[rjs330]

I think it's clear that you refuse to hold the Texas legislature accountable for writing poor legislation. Instead, you blame the medical professsion.

Yup, I think that's pretty clear.

 

[rambot]

150 obgyns that probably perform regular abortions and don't want to take responsibility for their actions.

If only laws were written so they would know what the heck that even meant.

 

[KCfromNC]

150 obgyns that probably perform regular abortions and don't want to take responsibility for their actions.

Looks like a post is guessing at the imagined motives of the experts explaining the problem in hopes of avoiding the obvious conclusion here - the GOP legislature screwed up creating the law in question.

 

[rjs330]

Looks like a post is guessing at the imagined motives of the experts explaining the problem in hopes of avoiding the obvious conclusion here - the GOP legislature screwed up creating the law in question.

Doesn't seen so since 119 women had abortion treatments to save their lives and no one was prosecuted for it. I guess it can be figured out.

 

[civilwarbuff]

No state has done more to fight this interpretation than Texas, which has warned doctors that its abortion ban supersedes the administration’s guidance on federal law, and that they can face up to 99 years in prison for violating it.

And anyone who would believe that (if it was actually said) is a complete and total idiot.
Federal law dictates that all patients coming to an emergency room for treatment is given proper and appropriate medical care. Failure to do so puts the hospital at risk of a lawsuit (not the physician unless they refuse to treat the patient) and possible sanctions/fines/or even loss of Medicare/Medicaid funds.

This story sounds more like progressive leftist trash; something you might find in the National Enquirer or hear on Judge Judy.

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[essentialsaltes]

And anyone who would believe that (if it was actually said) is a complete and total idiot.
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Take it up with the judges of the 5th Circuit and SCOTUS in the other thread.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Take it up with the judges of the 5th Circuit and SCOTUS in the other thread.

Why? It is totally appropriate to this thread.