A Trump Rally Speaker Trashed Puerto Ricans. Harris reached out to them.

[probinson]

Thank you for the longer clip.

A White House transcript of what was said in the video:

"And just the other day, a speaker at his rally he [Tony Hinchcliff] called Puerto Rico a "floating island of garbage." Well, let me tell you something. I don't — I — I don't know the Puerto Rican that — that I know —or a Puerto Rico, where I'm fr— in my home state of Delaware, they're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter's [Tony Hinchcliffe] — his — his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it's un-American. It's totally contrary to everything we've done, everything we've been."

He's talking about Trump supporter Tony Hinchcliffe's demonization of Latinos.

He was not.

That transcript is being quite generous to Biden, and you dishonestly inserted [Tony Hinchcliffe] into that transcript. The White House dishonestly changed "his supporters" to "his supporter's". People can listen to the video and decide for themselves, but it's pretty obvious that the President of the United States just called roughly half of the country "garbage".

I really like it when this stuff happens. Here we have the righteous indignation of people whining incessantly about an insult comic calling Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage for days and then when the President of the United States turns around and calls half the country garbage, they have to twist themselves in knots and edit transcripts to try to explain it away. The reason I appreciate things like his is because it demonstrates the rancid hypocrisy that exists in politics.

Do you think the news will be as condemning toward Democrats as they were with Republicans? Not hardly. The media machine is already downplaying the incident. The Hill's headline reads "Biden appears to call Trump supporters 'garbage'". Appears to? Really? No, he actually did. In fact, they basically concede that point in the article.

A video clip of Biden’s remarks also circulated. In that clip, it sounds as if the president ends one thought with the word “supporters,” and then begins a new sentence referring to the “demonization of Latinos.”​

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“The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters,” Biden appears to say in the clip. “His, his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American. It’s totally contrary to everything we’ve done, everything we’ve been.”​

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4960815-biden-slams-trump-supporters/

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This is an unforced error. The media spin to pretend that Biden didn't say what he said will make it worse. The Democrats attempts to downplay it will undermine their faux indignation at the "floating pile of garbage" comment. Make no mistake, half of America will not take kindly to being called "garbage".

 

[essentialsaltes]

No he wasn't and it's disingenuous to say otherwise.

Biden has neither denied, nor apologized that he called all Trump's supporters garbage.

Biden himself later addressed his video call with non-profit organisation Voto Latino, writing on X: "Earlier today I referred to the hateful rhetoric about Puerto Rico spewed by Trump's supporter at his Madison Square Garden rally as garbage - which is the only word I can think of to describe it."

The White House transcript shows "supporter's" as opposed to "supporters" or "supporters'". The longer quote in post #187 demonstrates the intended meaning.

This constitutes a denial that he was discussing all Trump's supporters.

 

[probinson]

He was definitely not talking about all Trump supporters.

Before President Biden says, "The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter's...," he said, "just the other day, a speaker at his rally he called Puerto Rico a 'floating island of garbage...'"

The speaker he is referring to in that sentence is Tony Hinchcliff.

He goes on to say "The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter's — his — his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it's un-American."

We know President Biden is speaking about Tony Hinchcliff specifically because in that sentence he uses the pronoun "him." If President Biden was talking about all Trump supporters, he would have used the pronoun "their."

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters — their— their demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it's un-American."

It's simple grammar. The people taking his words out of context are the ones being disingenuous.

C'mon man. Biden said this with a stutter in between sentences.

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters."​

"His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable and it's un-American."​

It is indeed simple grammar, and that is the most obvious explanation.

No one is taking his words "out of context". You're adding context that IS NOT THERE. You are being disingenuous. The President of the United States just said the quiet part out loud, and there's no denying it. It's on video for everyone to see.

 

[probinson]

Biden himself later addressed his video call with non-profit organisation Voto Latino, writing on X: "Earlier today I referred to the hateful rhetoric about Puerto Rico spewed by Trump's supporter at his Madison Square Garden rally as garbage - which is the only word I can think of to describe it."

The White House transcript shows "supporter's" as opposed to "supporters" or "supporters'". The longer quote in post #187 demonstrates the intended meaning.

This constitutes a denial that he was discussing all Trump's supporters.

It does. But it doesn't change what he actually said on video.

Also, I sincerely doubt that Biden actually wrote the post. I mean, it was 9:31PM ET when that was posted, way past his bedtime.

 

[probinson]

It's actually worse because Hillary at least gave the caveat.

Biden didn't, he was calling all Trump supporters to the last "garbage".

Even people like that ER doctor who was saving lives at the Butler rally...

Apparently we are all garbage...

We have been called racists, garbage, deplorable, Nazis, fascists, ignorant and more by the lot of them.

And they wonder why people are angry..

The media and Democrats are now going to make this worse by going into denial mode that Biden didn't actually say what he said. But what has been said cannot be unsaid, and even if Biden were to legitimately apologize for the remark, it would be hard to pretend like he didn't actually mean what he said.

It's pretty obvious that many Democrats believe Republicans are racist, deplorable garbage. Biden may have "slipped" when he said the quiet part out loud, but it's hard to deny that is the sentiment. Democrats are upset not that Biden is being "taken out of context", but because their faux outrage has been laid bare as the leader of their party has now expressed how he really feels about nearly half of the country. This flies in the face of unifying people, which is the ostensible goal of the Harris campaign. But it's hard to unify people when you call anyone who doesn't support you "garbage".

 

[durangodawood]

No one is taking his words "out of context". You're adding context that IS NOT THERE.

How do you know the apostrophe isnt there from the video?

 

[durangodawood]

Anyway, Biden isnt the topic. Plus he's on his way out.

 

[probinson]

Biden. Not topic. Plus he's on his way out.

"Garbage" most certainly is on topic. Biden inserted himself into this conversation when he inserted his foot in his mouth.

How do you know the apostrophe isnt there from the video?

Because I have ears?

There are two possible interpretations. Biden made two distinct statements:

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters."​

"His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable and it's un-American."​

Biden made one statement:

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter's demonization of Latino's is unconscionable and it's un-American."​

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That second interpretation doesn't even make sense. But then, Biden's been having a hard time communicating clearly for quite a while.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Biden made one statement:

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter's demonization of Latino's is unconscionable and it's un-American."​

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Just before this, Biden was directly addressing Hinchcliffe's comment, and how it unfairly characterizes Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans.

That second interpretation doesn't even make sense.

Only if a presidential candidate is required to speak in complete grammatical sentences, rather than finishing an incomplete thought with a continuation and conclusion on the same topic.

 

[JosephZ]

That transcript is being quite generous to Biden, and you dishonestly inserted [Tony Hinchcliffe] into that transcript.

You're adding context that IS NOT THERE. You are being disingenuous.

The brackets indicate an insertion that is not part of the original quote itself and are used to clarify the content without changing the original intent. By using brackets in the quote, I was being honest; had I not included them, then I would have been disingenuous.

Biden made one statement:

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter's demonization of Latino's is unconscionable and it's un-American."

Garbage = His supporter's (Tony Hinchcliffe's) demonization of Latinos.

 

[probinson]

Just before this, Biden was directly addressing Hinchcliffe's comment, and how it unfairly characterizes Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans.

Indeed. Then he moved on to talking about Trump's supporters.

Only if a presidential candidate is required to speak in complete grammatical sentences, rather than finishing an incomplete thought with a continuation and conclusion on the same topic.

You can believe whatever you want. I certainly don't envy your attempts to explain away what everyone clearly heard.

 

[probinson]

The brackets indicate an insertion that is not part of the original quote itself and are used to clarify the content without changing the original intent.

Right. So you're claiming to know Biden's intent. Your so-called "clarification" dishonestly changes the meaning of what was plainly said.

By using brackets in the quote, I was being honest; had I not included them, then I would have been disingenuous.

By using brackets, you are only indicating that you are adding something that was not stated, but there is no guarantee that your "clarification" is not disingenuous.

Garbage = Trump's supporter's (Tony Hinchcliffe's) demonization of Latinos.

If you say so.

It would appear denial is not just a river in Egypt.

 

[JosephZ]

Right. So you're claiming to know Biden's intent...

By using brackets, you are only indicating that you are adding something that was not stated, but there is no guarantee that your "clarification" is not disingenuous.

We can know President Biden's intent by including the surrounding context in his statement and applying basic rules of grammar.

 

[probinson]

The AP acknowledges that "Biden suggests Trump supporters are 'garbage'"

In referring to Trump’s supporters as “garbage,” however, Biden’s tone was at odds with the message that Democratic nominee Kamala Harris is seeking to present as she aims to cast a broad appeal, including to disaffected Republicans. Shortly after Biden’s comments, Harris spoke from the Ellipse in Washington, vowing to be a president who would unite the country.​

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https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e

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Newsweek says Biden's comments have left the White House "scrambling".

President Joe Biden appeared to call Trump supporters "garbage" in a video that quickly went viral, stirring a furious backlash among conservatives and forcing the White House to issue a clarifying statement.​

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Biden's "garbage" reference to Trump supporters has White House scrambling

The president is facing backlash after attacking the racist comments made during Trump's speech in New York City on Sunday.

www.newsweek.com

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[probinson]

We can know President Biden's intent by including the surrounding context in his statement and applying basic rules of grammar.

As a Christian, I'm sure you know that Jesus told us out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. Even if Biden didn't mean to articulate that Trump's supporters are garbage, it's pretty clear that is how many Democrats view them. Biden may not have intended to say the quiet part out loud, but he did, and now the White House is "scrambling" to address it.

 

[durangodawood]

"Garbage" most certainly is on topic. Biden inserted himself into this conversation when he inserted his foot in his mouth.

Ok. The old topic is played out. But putting this new one here keeps the despicable Trump rally thread title front and center.

Because I have ears?

There are two possible interpretations. Biden made two distinct statements:

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters."​

"His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable and it's un-American."​

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter's."

Meaning the awful things said at that rally. And not just that one comedian. So perhaps the apostophe belongs at the end of supporters.

 

[JosephZ]

As a Christian, I'm sure you know that Jesus told us out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. Even if Biden didn't mean to articulate that Trump's supporters are garbage, it's pretty clear that is how many Democrats view them.

There's no doubting that, but can you blame them? Afterall, Trump and his supporters are often using words like "degenerates," "anti-Christ," “scum,” “vermin,” “animals,” "demon rats," and “the enemy within” to describe them.

It's more than a bit hypocritical for Trump supporters to be complaining about someone viewing them as garbage when they are using similar, or even worse, terms to describe the person they are criticizing.

 

[probinson]

Ok. The old topic is played out. But putting this new one here keeps the despicable Trump rally thread title front and center.\\

It's not a new topic. This was Biden's response to THIS TOPIC. It is absolutely relevant to the discussion.

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter's."

Meaning the awful things said at that rally.

If you believe that he meant to say his supporter's..... then there is a word missing there. The much simpler explanation is that Biden said what he said about supporters.

As I've already said, you're free to believe whatever you like. However, most objective people are going to listen to this video clip and know exactly what Biden was saying. The media will have to acknowledge it. They already are, begrudgingly, but this is a textbook example of why trust in media is so low.

Insult comic calls Puerto Rico a floating pile of garbage?
WHARRRGARBLLL! OMGZ! TOP STORY! HORRIBLEZ! UNIMAGINABLE!!! RACIST!!! DIVISIVE!!!

President of the United States calls half the country garbage?
Meh. Now let's all calmly and rationally discuss where the apostrophe belongs in this sentence.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Good on President Biden for calling out Hinchcliffe’s garbage comedy. That’s a leader standing up for his fellow Americans in PR.

 

[probinson]

There's no doubting that, but can you blame them?

Wait. Are YOU now justifying calling people "garbage"?