Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why

[Phil G]

How does someone get saved & become a born again Christian ?

Certainly not by the Dean Odle. He is not the Saviour! You are so far from the Gospel of Jesus on this one that it's hard to believe you understand it at all.

I'll do what I like, who are you to say this ?

It proves your own deception by telling people to trust Dean Odle who knowingly and deliberately lies so much in "this little snippet". He is unrepentant about his lies and is an untrustworthy person. To endorse him, is to be complicit in his lies.

Fair Game hey, what about the 33% Mason Astronauts who's god is Lucifer ?

Satan is the father of lies and Dean Odle has knowingly and repeatedly lied in "this little snippet". He is unrepentant about those lies. Dean Odle is a person you believe and promote. It is hypocritical to point the finger at what you allege are lies told by astronauts and yet promote Odle who has definitely repeatedly lied in "this little snippet". If the god of the astronauts is Lucifer, then it is doubly so for Odle as he is a pastor and teacher and is therefore held to a higher account.

 

[Apple Sky]

Now THAT'S what you call high fashion! Prada helps design a futuristic spacesuit for NASA astronauts to wear to the moon on the 2026 Artemis III mission​

It's the collaboration the fashion world never saw coming. Prada - known for its luxury handbags, accessories and footwear - has turned to designing a spacesuit to be worn on the next mission to the moon. The renowned fashion company, founded in Milan in 1913, has teamed up with Axiom Space to advise on the suit's design.

 

[Phil G]

Now THAT'S what you call high fashion! Prada helps design a futuristic spacesuit for NASA astronauts to wear to the moon on the 2026 Artemis III mission​

It's the collaboration the fashion world never saw coming. Prada - known for its luxury handbags, accessories and footwear - has turned to designing a spacesuit to be worn on the next mission to the moon. The renowned fashion company, founded in Milan in 1913, has teamed up with Axiom Space to advise on the suit's design.

As usual, you deflect from what you cannot answer. Odle lies, and by doing so he is doing the bidding of Satan.

 

[Apple Sky]

As usual, you deflect from what you cannot answer. Odle lies.

I'm not deflecting, just one of my little interludes

Certainly not by the Dean Odle. He is not the Saviour! You are so far from the Gospel of Jesus on this one that it's hard to believe you understand it at all.

I thought to baptize someone is to become saved by Jesus.

 

[Phil G]

I thought to baptize someone is to become saved by Jesus.

Baptism saves nobody. A person is only saved by faith in the Lord Jesus and in His death as payment for the penalty of sin and His resurrection to eternal life.

Odle cannot save a single person.

And your interludes are deflections.

 

[Apple Sky]

And your interludes are deflections.

Oh well here's another one for good measure

Elon Musk's mission to Mars could RUIN the Red Planet, scientist warns - as the SpaceX CEO reveals plans to set up a city there by 2054​

See I told you he's a Master Mason

 

[Apple Sky]

Odle cannot save a single person.

But he does help to bring people to believe & from what I can see he's done a pretty good job of it.

 

[David Lamb]

I thought to baptize someone is to become saved by Jesus.

Definitely not, according to the bible. In that verse I quoted about the Philippian jailer, the apostles didn't tell him to be baptized in order to be saved, but to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Certainly, once he (and others in his household) had believed, they were baptized:

“31 So they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household." 32 Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their stripes. And immediately he and all his family were baptized. 34 Now when he had brought them into his house, he set food before them; and he rejoiced, having believed in God with all his household.” (Ac 16:31-34 NKJV)

We have spent many posts debating things like the shape of the earth, whether the moon shines with its own light, and so on, but such things are trivial compared with the matter of how we are saved. We must believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved.

 

[Apple Sky]

Definitely not, according to the bible. In that verse I quoted about the Philippian jailer, the apostles didn't tell him to be baptized in order to be saved, but to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Certainly, once he (and others in his household) had believed, they were baptized:

“31 So they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household." 32 Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their stripes. And immediately he and all his family were baptized. 34 Now when he had brought them into his house, he set food before them; and he rejoiced, having believed in God with all his household.” (Ac 16:31-34 NKJV)

So all said and dusted Dean could be likened to Paul the Apostle.
Spread the word.

 

[David Lamb]

But he does help to bring people to believe & from what I can see he's done a pretty good job of it.

I don't know this man, so I have no idea how good a job he does of telling people how to be saved, but even if he does do a brilliant job, he doesn't actually save anybody - only Jesus does that, and it's God the Father Who brings people. Jesus said:

“"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.” (Joh 6:44 NKJV)

 

[Apple Sky]

Can some explain to me why the sun & the moon can be seen at the same time in the sky ?

I could only find this stupid video.

 

[Phil G]

So all said and dusted Dean could be likened to Paul the Apostle.
Spread the word.

No, the apostles didn’t lie. Nor did they teach anything about the shape of the earth. It’s not important for salvation.

Odle lies and cannot be likened to Paul, or any other apostle. To suggest such is to bring the Gospel into disrepute.

 

[Phil G]

But he does help to bring people to believe & from what I can see he's done a pretty good job of it.

Not if he lies, which he does. He is a bad witness for the true Gospel.

 

[prodromos]

Why do you call him this ?

I explained in the above post. Did you not read it?

Gary Wayne is a Christian contrarian who has maintained a lifelong love affair with biblical prophecy, history, and mythology. His extensive study has encompassed the Holy Bible and Gnostic scriptures, The Qur'an, the Bhagavad Gita, Gilgamesh and other ancient epics, language etymology, and secret society publications

Impressive! You can cut and paste the blurb from a book sales website.

 

[prodromos]

So all said and dusted Dean could be likened to Paul the Apostle.

Not even remotely. The Apostle Paul did not use lies to convert people to Christ.

Spread the word.

That pastor Dean is an unrepentant liar.

 

[Apple Sky]

Not if he lies, which he does. He is a bad witness for the true Gospel.

@prodromos & @Phil G 'For the last time he does not lie, show me where else he has lied except for this snippet which is out for debate.
And if anyone says it is the verse, the seal like unto clay, I will frown upon this too.

 

[Apple Sky]

@prodromos & @Phil G You's do not like Dean because he spreads the truth about the shape of the earth & you cannot bear the fact that he is right. What are you so afraid of, that he might break the spell you are under ?

 

[prodromos]

@prodromos & @Phil G 'For the last time he does not lie

He absolutely did lie, and when someone showed him clear evidence that his claims were false, he refused to retract.

show me where else he has lied except for this snippet which is out for debate.

It is not up for debate. The football field in the video is the CC Moore Stadium adjacent to the McComb High School Gymnasium in Mississippi. Several people have confirmed it is not flat but slopes down from the middle of the field.

And if anyone says it is the verse, the seal like unto clay, I will frown upon this too.

I've never brought that up.

 

[Phil G]

@prodromos & @Phil G 'For the last time he does not lie, show me where else he has lied except for this snippet which is out for debate.
And if anyone says it is the verse, the seal like unto clay, I will frown upon this too.

“He does not lie” and “where else he has lied except…” is a complete contradiction. “Where else” indicates that he lied at some point. The fact that he has neither repented from, nor retracted his lies means he continues to lie.

And it is not “out for debate”.

Odle is a rotten witness for the Gospel.

And your "frowning" has no effect on me.

 

[Phil G]

@prodromos & @Phil G You's do not like Dean because he spreads the truth about the shape of the earth & you cannot bear the fact that he is right. What are you so afraid of, that he might break the spell you are under ?

Odle says repeatedly in “this little snippet” that the football field is flat. It isn’t & he knows it.

"Liking" him or not is yet another deflection of yours and has nothing to do with anything. He is wrong about the earth's shape and he will soon be proven wrong again with the 24 sun in Antarctica this December.

Satan is the father of lies. Whose spell are you under?