Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why

[Apple Sky]

Paster Dean repeatedly states that it is a "FLAT" football field when in fact it is not. He has been informed that the field in the video is in fact curved but he has not retracted or offered an apology. The video is still up on his website and is stil perpetuating his lie. That makes Pastor Dean an unrepentant liar.
Also, you have to wonder why he didn't "zoom in to bring the person back in to view" like he supposedly did with the boat just prior in the video. Its because he knows the person is actually hidden by the curve in the field, whereas the boat he showed was not yet hidden by the curve of the earth. He is being delibrately deceptive.

I watched the video again & the part where we see the football playing field there is music playing over it so you cannot make out what Dean is actually saying which I find quite odd.

 

[Phil G]

I watched the video again & the part where we see the football playing field there is music playing over it so you cannot make out what Dean is actually saying which I find quite odd.

Turn on and read the transcript. It's easier.

 

[Apple Sky]

Turn on and read the transcript. It's easier.

Why is there music playing over this bit ?

And can some one tell me why I'm see this on my screen ?

 

[Phil G]

Why is there music playing over this bit ?

I don't know why that is. But this segment of the video is Dean Odle's own, and he posted this on his own church's YouTube channel. Are you suggesting a deliberate attempt to drown out what he said?

As I said, read the transcript.

 

[Phil G]

And can some one tell me why I'm see this on my screen ?

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Eh, where is it and when does it appear? I've many questions about what appears on my screen from time to time, maybe you can help me!

 

[Apple Sky]

Are you suggesting a deliberate attempt to drown out what he said?

It's quite possible.

 

[Phil G]

It's quite possible.

Hardly! It's his own church channel and he doesn't complain about it. It seems to me that the music is on the original video he showed himself during the debate. It's far more likely that the music on his own video segment was very loud when he showed it.

As I said, read the transcript!

 

[Apple Sky]

Eh, where is it and when does it appear?

It's only just appeared and it is at the Bottom right hand side of my screen

 

[Phil G]

It's only just appeared and it is at the Bottom right hand side of my screen

It looks like a 'writing' button for something, maybe a comment button.

Edit: I've now seen it on my phone. It seems to be a way just to reply to the thread rather than to a comment on the thread.

 

[Apple Sky]

Hardly! It's his own church channel and he doesn't complain about it. It seems to me that the music is on the original video he showed himself during the debate. It's far more likely that the music on his own video segment was very loud when he showed it.

This video was the Great Biblical Creation Debate took place December 2, 2023 in Nashville, TN. Pastor Dean Odle and Pastor Greg Locke give their arguments for cosmology based on what the Bible says, who do you think won?

 

[Apple Sky]

It looks like a 'writing' button for something, maybe a comment button.

Edit: I've now seen it on my phone. It seems to be a way just to reply to the thread rather than to a comment on the thread.

Thanks

 

[Phil G]

This video was the Great Biblical Creation Debate took place December 2, 2023 in Nashville, TN. Pastor Dean Odle and Pastor Greg Locke give their arguments for cosmology based on what the Bible says, who do you think won?

Yes, and Dean Odle posted it on his own church's YouTube channel. The video segment he showed about the football field is his own. No music drowns out any other video segments he showed so it must be on his own video segment.

Read the transcript.

 

[Apple Sky]

Yes, and Dean Odle posted it on his own church's YouTube channel. The video segment he showed about the football field is his own. No music drowns out any other video segments he showed so it must be on his own video segment.

Read the transcript.

It is a bit odd don't you think ?

 

[Phil G]

It is a bit odd don't you think ?

No, having been involved in sound and recording in my own church I know how it can happen where something said with background music is perfectly audible during a presentation, yet can be drowned out by the music in a recording. It happens.

And I think you are deflecting from what he actually said which is more discernible by reading the transcript.

And from what is written on the actual video segment itself:

1. "PERSPECTIVE NOT CURVATURE!" A lie, the football field surface is curved.

2. "Flat Football Field" A lie, the football field is not flat.

3. "The man starts disappearing from the bottom on a flat surface." A lie, the surface is not flat.

 

[Apple Sky]

No, having been involved in sound and recording in my own church I know how it can happen where something said with background music is perfectly audible during a presentation, yet can be drowned out by the music in a recording. It happens.

And I think you are deflecting from what he actually said which is more discernible by reading the transcript.

And from what is written on the actual video segment itself:

1. "Perspective Not Curvature!" A lie, the football field surface is curved.

2. "Flat Football Field" A lie, the football field is not flat.

3. "The man starts disappearing from the bottom on a flat surface." A lie, the surface is not flat.

This little snippet will not deter me from believing Dean, he has helped not only me but thousands of others find the truth of our reality & has saved many people.

I suggest that you all watch the whole video before anyone condemns him.

 

[Phil G]

This little snippet will not deter me from believing Dean, he has helped not only me but thousands of others find the truth of our reality & has saved many people.

I suggest that you all watch the whole video before anyone condemns him.

Dean Odle has lied repeatedly in "this little snippet". I suggest you take that on board before reinforcing your belief in what he says. If you still want to believe him after that, then that's your foolish choice. But don't try to convince others that, despite his lies in "this little snippet", he's trustworthy in anything else he says. That's just ridiculous.

And he certainly hasn't "saved" anyone. Only Jesus can do that. It just shows how you have put this man on a pedestal in such a way that you equate him with salvation.

Nobody is “condemning” Odle, but calling him out on his lies is fair game.

 

[Apple Sky]

And he certainly hasn't "saved" anyone.

How does someone get saved & become a born again Christian ?

But don't try to convince others that, despite his lies in "this little snippet", he's trustworthy in anything else he says. That's just ridiculous.

I'll do what I like, who are you to say this ?

Nobody is “condemning” Odle, but calling him out on his lies is fair game

Fair Game hey, what about the 33% Mason Astronauts who's god is Lucifer ? It's OK that they lie big time.

Excerpt from the book 'The Genesis 6 conspiracy' by Gary Wayne.

Lucifer is called the Great Architect because the universe is his most significant work. Freemasons name their (Snake) god an architect for Lucifer created the universe from existing material, just as architects do. The universe, then, is Lucifer’s lofty temple, and his greatest, most perfect work of architecture.
5 Hence, Gnostics shockingly established the Royal Society of England and the Invisible College to be the first assembly of scientists dedicated to the wonders created by the Great Architect of the Universe
6 Marks scribed into or onto architecture by Freemasons are symbols that indicate they are mere instruments of the Great Architect
.7 Wilson writes that the Thirty-Third level of initiation professes its Adepts to be soldiers for the new, true religion, where the true religion understands that Lucifer is god.

I suppose next you'll be calling Gary Wayne a liar too.

 

[prodromos]

I suppose next you'll be calling Gary Wayne a liar too.

Nutjob would be a better description. Or at least anyone claiming Satan to be any kind of architect is a nutjob. Everything that exists was created by God. Satan had nothing to do with it.

 

[Apple Sky]

Nutjob would be better description.

Why do you call him this ?

Gary Wayne is a Christian contrarian who has maintained a lifelong love affair with biblical prophecy, history, and mythology. His extensive study has encompassed the Holy Bible and Gnostic scriptures, The Qur'an, the Bhagavad Gita, Gilgamesh and other ancient epics, language etymology, and secret society publications

 

[David Lamb]

How does someone get saved & become a born again Christian ?

A really good question, which a jailer in Philippi asked the apostles. They replied:

“Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved.” (Ac 16:31 NKJV)

Someone who is already a Christian may pass on the message of salvation, in other words, the gospel, but they can't save another person, making them into a born again Christian.