Netanyahu: Iran 'will pay' for its attack

[mindlight]

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-10-1-24-intl-hnk#cm1qy39c400173b6qpxilj4fv

Tuesday’s attack by Iran on Israel could shift the scales in the already extremely tense situation in the Middle East as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed Tehran “will pay.”

Up until now, Iran has mostly used its proxies in the region — Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Houthis in Yemen — to strike against Israel.

When it attacked Israel directly in April, after accusing it of bombing its diplomatic complex in Syria, the assault appeared designed for effect rather than impact.

Tuesday’s missile strikes seemed different.

The Pentagon said Iran’s attack on Tuesday was twice as large as Iran’s last barrage against Israel in April. Tehran said the barrage was a response to the killing of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah and others. It came just hours after Israel announced it launched “limited and localized” ground operation against Hezbollah in Lebanon — something that would have been seen by Iran as a major escalation.

Maybe this is a case of loving Iranians but hating the regime that is destabilizing the Middle East and bringing it to the brink of war.

 

[Dan1988]

LOL, that's not history. God isn't a historical figure.

Anyway, as far as I understand it Israel are the invaders, and are constantly oppressing and bombing and stealling land from their neighbors. I have no idea why USA wants to support them in that.

The most documented figure in all of history is Jesus, who is God. So you're dead wrong there, every respected historian confirms this fact. You can do a search yourself and you will find mountains of documented evidence from secular and Christian historians.

I'm not sure who told you this lie that Israelis are invaders. There is no evidence to support this opinion of yours. There is no evidence to support the view that Israel has oppressed anyone, or bombed or stole land from it's neighbors. This is all Islamic propaganda for which you have no evidence.

The USA supports Israel because Israel is the only country in the Middle East, which is fighting against the enemies of humanity. The Islamic Terrorists in the Middle East, are hell bent on eliminating Israel and all Infidels on the face of the earth, you're also on their list. So you should reconsider your support for them.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Anyway, as far as I understand it Israel are the invaders, and are constantly oppressing and bombing and stealling land from their neighbors. I have no idea why USA wants to support them in that.

Depends on how far back in history one wants to look. They are, in essence, the equivalent to that piece of land, what Native Americans were to this piece of land.


There are also some key factors that commonly get overlooked.

Israel a relatively small piece of land. The UN carved that piece of land out for them when they were aiming to house/support population of 700,000 people.

From the time that occurred, until the 1970's, nearly every other country in the region, collectively, forcibly expelled and displaced around an additional 800,000 Jews from their countries (forcing them to go to the newly provisioned country)

This shows the country, the 1940's Jewish population, and the Jewish population that was left by the mid-70s

So it makes sense that they would've looked to expand at some point.


An analogy:
If I allocated a 700 unit apartment complex for the purposes of housing 700 homeless people and put you in charge of running it...

And in the subsequent decade, every neighboring city forcibly kicked out all their homeless people (an additional 800 people in total you weren't originally planning on) and left them on your doorstep...all the while, the people from those other cities liked to regularly drive by to throw rocks at the building and inhabitants, and use rhetoric suggesting they'd like to just wipe the homeless off the face of the earth so that they can use that land to build a shopping center.

...one could see why that could cause a "chip on the shoulder", correct?

And at a certain point, it'd be understandable if you said "you know what, we've got 1500 people here in a building originally designed to house 700 because you guys dumped them all off on us to look after, while simultaneously trying to damage said building to add insult to injury. To heck with this, I'm putting an addition onto the building, and if it encroaches a little bit into the other cities property line, so be it, and if you keep throwing rocks at us, we're going to start throwing a few back"

 

[SamanthaAnastasia]

Your antisemitic comments reveal that you have been deceived by the enemies of truth. The fact is, Israel doesn't have a "war a machine" that's a foolish comment.
Israel had a defense force, not a war machine. The civilized world must support Israel to protect us from the terrorists, we should give Israel much more money so they can eliminate every last terrorist. Then the world can have peace and prosperity.

I can't understand people like you who hate peace and love death and terror. This is what Satan loves, those of us who love righteousness, justice, peace and prosperity, must stand up against evil and support Gods chosen people to destroy the evil doers.

The IDF is the most professional and disciplined Military in the entire world. It does everything to avoid civilian casualties, but sadly, the terrorists use civilians as humans shields, so they are responsible for civilian casualties and not the IDF. It's very frustrating to see that antisemites like you still don't know the basic facts but you, your quick to pass your false judgement on Gods chosen people.

How can the Jews still be God’s chosen people if Christians are now God’s chosen people?

There are Christians in Palestine and Israel who are being persecuted not only from the terrorists but also the IDF and Israelis. They hate Christians just as much as the terrorists do.

 

[Desk trauma]

I'm not sure who told you this lie that Israelis are invaders. There is no evidence to support this opinion of yours. There is no evidence to support the view that Israel has oppressed anyone, or bombed or stole land from it's neighbors.

Israel never bombed anyone? LOL!

 

[Palmfever]

There's a lot of interesting history packed in your short summary. But I don't agree with the point you made, regarding "Islam comes from the same God as the Jews and Christians.
The reason I don't agree with this view is that Islam considers the Christian God to be false. They don't believe that Allah has a Son. The Christians believe that Jesus is God, and the Muslims consider this to be blasphemous and the fundamentalist radical Muslims believe they have a right to behead those who don't renounce this blasphemous belief.

They obviously believe in a different God to the Christian God. While Jews and Christians believe in the same God, Jews don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that He is One with the Father making Him God.

I don't think these three religions can reconcile their differences, concerning who the Lord Jesus Christ is. So they will remain divided, while all three hold to different beliefs regarding the identity of the Lord Jesus Christ.

As you say, there are extremists in all three religions. My Church Minister teaches, that we must be radical disciples of Christ. He preaches, that we must have no fellowship at all with Muslims and Jews and all other non Christians. This doesn't mean we're forbidden to share the gospel with them, by "fellowship" he meant we mustn't agree with what their religions teach. He is very much against "Ecumenicalism" and "Interfaith" relationships.

I'm sure the majority of Jews and Muslims are taught the same thing by their leaders, because nobody wants to give any ground to the others. Most religions teach that their religion is the only true one and the rest are all false, this is to be expected.

This began millennia ago.

Genesis 16:2-16

• And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain c children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai. [3] And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. [4] And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes. [5] And Sarai said unto Abram, My wrong be upon thee: I have given my maid into thy bosom; and when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: the Lord judge between me and thee. [6] But Abram said unto Sarai, Behold, thy maid is in thy hand; do to her as it pleaseth thee. And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled from her face. [7] And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur. [8] And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai. [9] And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands. [10] And the angel of the Lord said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude. [11] And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction. [12] And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. [13] And she called the name of the Lord that spake unto her, Thou God seest me: for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth me? [14] Wherefore the well was called Beer-lahai-roi; behold, it is between Kadesh and Bered. [15] And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael. [16] And Abram was fourscore and six years old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram.

Genesis 17:18-22
And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee! [19] And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. [20] And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. [21] But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. [22] And he left off talking with him, and God went up from Abraham.

Genesis 21:10-21
Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. [11] And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son. [12] And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called. [13] And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed. [14] And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-sheba. [15] And the water was spent in the bottle, and she cast the child under one of the shrubs. [16] And she went, and sat her down over against him a good way off, as it were a bowshot: for she said, Let me not see the death of the child. And she sat over against him, and lift up her voice, and wept. [17] And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is. [18] Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation. [19] And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink. [20] And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer.

 

[stevil]

The most documented figure in all of history is Jesus, who is God.

I'm not convinced there was a historical Jesus. And even if there was, he was human not god.

So you're dead wrong there, every respected historian confirms this fact.

Their standards for historical figures are very weak.

You can do a search yourself and you will find mountains of documented evidence from secular and Christian historians.

I have done some research. The evidence is very weak.

I'm not sure who told you this lie that Israelis are invaders. There is no evidence to support this opinion of yours. There is no evidence to support the view that Israel has oppressed anyone, or bombed or stole land from it's neighbors. This is all Islamic propaganda for which you have no evidence.

Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity

Israeli authorities must be held accountable for committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinians, Amnesty International said today in a damning new report. The investigation details how Israel enforces a system of oppression and domination against the Palestinian people wherever it has...

www.amnesty.org

 

[Dan1988]

How can the Jews still be God’s chosen people if Christians are now God’s chosen people?

There are Christians in Palestine and Israel who are being persecuted not only from the terrorists but also the IDF and Israelis. They hate Christians just as much as the terrorists do.

The Jews can be the chosen people because God said they are. Us Gentiles were grafted into the body of Christ. Jesus said you will be hated by the world for My names sake, so don't be surprised, if everyone hates you. They are only fulfilling Christ's promise.

Jews and Muslims are no different to any other religious or political group, everybody hates Christians because they hate the Lord Jesus Christ, so it's only natural to hate His people as well.

God chose Israel to be a Royal Nation of Kings and Priests, but Israel committed spiritual fornication with the Pagan nations around them and they lost favored people status. God hasn't abandoned the Jews, many are being saved and many more are yet to join the Church.

The Apostles were all Jews and so was Jesus Himself, so they are Gods chosen people, because the oracles of God were given to them and they gave them to us Gentiles. So being chosen people, doesn't mean they are holier or better than anyone else. It just means they are more accountable to God and if they are unfaithful, they will suffer greater punishment.

 

[Dan1988]

Israel never bombed anyone? LOL!

That's right, defending your family from invading terrorists is not bombing anyone. I don't consider terrorists as "anyone" they are "persona non grata"

 

[stevil]

everybody hates Christians because they hate the Lord Jesus Christ, so it's only natural to hate His people as well.

Most people don't hate Christians.

 

[Desk trauma]

That's right, defending your family from invading terrorists is not bombing anyone. I don't consider terrorists as "anyone" they are "persona non grata"

Their jets drop what then?

 

[Dan1988]

This began millennia ago.

Genesis 16:2-16

• And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain c children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai. [3] And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. [4] And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes. [5] And Sarai said unto Abram, My wrong be upon thee: I have given my maid into thy bosom; and when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: the Lord judge between me and thee. [6] But Abram said unto Sarai, Behold, thy maid is in thy hand; do to her as it pleaseth thee. And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled from her face. [7] And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur. [8] And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai. [9] And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands. [10] And the angel of the Lord said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude. [11] And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction. [12] And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. [13] And she called the name of the Lord that spake unto her, Thou God seest me: for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth me? [14] Wherefore the well was called Beer-lahai-roi; behold, it is between Kadesh and Bered. [15] And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael. [16] And Abram was fourscore and six years old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram.

Genesis 17:18-22
And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee! [19] And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. [20] And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. [21] But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. [22] And he left off talking with him, and God went up from Abraham.

Genesis 21:10-21
Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. [11] And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son. [12] And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called. [13] And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed. [14] And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-sheba. [15] And the water was spent in the bottle, and she cast the child under one of the shrubs. [16] And she went, and sat her down over against him a good way off, as it were a bowshot: for she said, Let me not see the death of the child. And she sat over against him, and lift up her voice, and wept. [17] And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is. [18] Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation. [19] And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink. [20] And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer.

Yes most Bible Scholars and Historians would agree with you, as I do that Hebrews and Arabs are half brothers. Ishmael lived up to the reputation God said he would have, in being a "wild man". Arabs have a reputation for being radical, wild and passionate people. While the Hebrews are subdued and introverted.

A wise man once said, "never get between two brothers when they are fighting". I don't think the UN or the US or Europe or anyone else can resolve this fight between (half brothers). It looks like a fight to the death.

 

[Desk trauma]

A wise man once said, "never get between two brothers when they are fighting". I don't think the UN or the US or Europe or anyone else can resolve this fight between (half brothers). It looks like a fight to the death.

Guess we should stop subsidizing Israel then to remain out of it.

 

[Palmfever]

Yes most Bible Scholars and Historians would agree with you, as I do that Hebrews and Arabs are half brothers. Ishmael lived up to the reputation God said he would have, in being a "wild man". Arabs have a reputation for being radical, wild and passionate people. While the Hebrews are subdued and introverted.

A wise man once said, "never get between two brothers when they are fighting". I don't think the UN or the US or Europe or anyone else can resolve this fight between (half brothers). It looks like a fight to the death.

It appears as Trump said, genetic. (Jest, for those who began to bristle...)
Poor Hagar, she only did what Sarah told her to do. Hope she had a good life. What an awful position to be put in.

 

[Palmfever]

Most people don't hate Christians.

Perhaps hate is to strong a word. Yet they are still antichrist.
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son. 23Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father, but whoever confesses the Son has the Father as well.

 

[Palmfever]

Yes, when the enemy is least prepared.

That should be self evident. Ha

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

 

[stevil]

Perhaps hate is to strong a word. Yet they are still antichrist.
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son. 23Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father, but whoever confesses the Son has the Father as well.

It's a shame that Christianity promotes this way of thinking.
An exclusive group, vilifying those outside the group. Makes me sad.

 

[Palmfever]

It's a shame that Christianity promotes this way of thinking.
An exclusive group, vilifying those outside the group. Makes me sad.

I'm pretty sure Christ speaks against hate. It's just appears at times to be an easier response in humans than compassion and reason.

 

[stevil]

I'm pretty sure Christ speaks against hate. It's just appears at times to be an easier response in humans than compassion and reason.

I wouldn't consider myself to be antichrist. It's is hard to be anti something that you don't believe in. For example I'm not anti cheese moon.
I don't believe the moon is made of cheese, but I'n not against having a moon made of cheese. If scientists drilled into the moon and found out that it was cheese inside there, then I'd believe it, But I don't care either way. I'm not for or against a moon made of cheese.

To characterise me as being antichrist is just plain dishonest, and I find it unnecessarily aggressive. and I find it quite sad that this is promoted by some.

 

[Desk trauma]

From now on there will be ONLY and ONLY severe PUNISHMENTS against all NATIONS, from East to West, from South to North.

Hebrews 1:1-3
1 GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days (last 2000 years) spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of His glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE of the Person of GOD, and upholding all things by the Word of His Power(Matthew 28:18 combined with Revelation 1:8), when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

JESUS said to the Devil: Matthew 4:4 - Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of GOD.

The Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing.

Hoseas 6:2-3
6 Come, and let us return unto the Lord: for He hath torn, and He will heal us; He hath smitten, and He will bind us up.

2 After two Days (after the sixth Day) will He revive us: in the third Day(in the seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day)He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight. -> Luke 20:35-36 combined with 1Corinthians 15:24-28 and Revelation 11:15-18 and 12:7-12

From now on there will be ONLY and ONLY severe PUNISHMENTS against all NATIONS from East to West, for now we are living the period of SORROWS- Matthew 24:3-8, the worst comes immediately after this current period of sorrows, and the PUNISHMENT is /will be ETERNAL, it is ENDLESS, it is for ever and ever.

Romans 2:5-11
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the Day of Wrath and revelation of the righteous Judgment of GOD; -> Revelation 11:18

6 Who will render to EVERY MAN according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

11 For there is no respect of persons with GOD.

Matthew 25:32-34 and 41&46
32 And before Him shall be gathered all NATIONS(Israel included): and He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: -> REVELATION 11:15 COMBINED WITH 1CORINTHIANS 15:24-28.

41 And unto them on the left hand the King says, Depart from me, ye CURSED, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his messengers: 46 These shall go away into everlasting PUNISHMENT: but the righteous into life Eternal.

The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand? The Scriptures above quoted WILL LITERALLY BE FULFILLED from now on.

Be careful or else Get ready

Sure.