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Netanyahu: Iran 'will pay' for its attack

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I'm not convinced there was a historical Jesus. And even if there was, he was human not god.



Their standards for historical figures are very weak.



I have done some research. The evidence is very weak.

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OK, so according to your private opinion Jesus didn't exist and if He did, He wasn't God. I'm just wondering if you have any other source apart from your private opinion to support your view.

I see your historical view is limited to only 78 years, may I remind you that Israel has been right there for the past 3500 years. And you can take that to the bank, this is not my opinion it is a historical fact.
Just because large armies invaded Israel and most Israelis fled, doesn't mean that they don't have the right to reclaim the land that was stolen form them.
 
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Their jets drop what then?
Their jets perform pest control, just like a farmer sprays his crop to rid it of vermin. It's a shame the vermin in this case use non combatants as human shields. So you can thank the vermin for the collateral damage.
 
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Guess we should stop subsidizing Israel then to remain out of it.
No, the US stands for truth justice and the American way. Israel is being attacked by terrorists on all sides, and the US has a moral duty to give Israel all the support it needs to eliminate the terrorists. By doing so, it protects the rest of the free world from these blood thirsty parasites.
 
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OK, so according to your private opinion Jesus didn't exist and if He did, He wasn't God. I'm just wondering if you have any other source apart from your private opinion to support your view.

I see your historical view is limited to only 78 years, may I remind you that Israel has been right there for the past 3500 years. And you can take that to the bank, this is not my opinion it is a historical fact.
Just because large armies invaded Israel and most Israelis fled, doesn't mean that they don't have the right to reclaim the land that was stolen form them.
I'm not a history or biblical scholar, but from what I've personally researched on the internet.
The evidence for Jesus is not very strong at all.
There were no writings done by Jesus.
No writings by anyone who has ever met Jesus in person.

There was a mention of a "Christus" by some Roman historian (Tacitus) who didn't mention Jesus or Yesua or any name other than the title Christus and hadn't met Jesus but was just mentioning in passing what some believers said.
Paul (Saul) of course writes lots about Jesus, but he never personally met him.
There are other "evidences" but none of them seem to me to have much substance.

I'm not particularly worried if there was an actual human Jesus or not. I have no reason to want there not to be one. I just see very little substance to any of the evidence supporting a historical Jesus.
 
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It appears as Trump said, genetic. (Jest, for those who began to bristle...)
Poor Hagar, she only did what Sarah told her to do. Hope she had a good life. What an awful position to be put in.
We can rest assured that God didn't forget Hagar, He always blesses those He saves. So she went on to live a blessed life
 
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I wouldn't consider myself to be antichrist. It's is hard to be anti something that you don't believe in. For example I'm not anti cheese moon.
I don't believe the moon is made of cheese, but I'n not against having a moon made of cheese. If scientists drilled into the moon and found out that it was cheese inside there, then I'd believe it, But I don't care either way. I'm not for or against a moon made of cheese.

To characterise me as being antichrist is just plain dishonest, and I find it unnecessarily aggressive. and I find it quite sad that this is promoted by some.
Don't become defensive and quick to take offense. No reason to. I did not characterize you specifically as anything That is your insecurity identifying as such. I quoted scripture, which I believe, though you may not. That God you do not believe in, calls you an antichrist. Just own up and stop with the convoluted argument. Be opposed or support whatever you desire. It is of little consequence to me.
 
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Don't become defensive and quick to take offense. No reason to. I did not characterize you specifically as anything That is your insecurity identifying as such. I quoted scripture, which I believe, though you may not. That God you do not believe in, calls you an antichrist. Just own up and stop with the convoluted argument. Be opposed or support whatever you desire. It is of little consequence to me.
Well, I'm just telling you I find it dishonest and overly agressive to characterise me as antichrist. I've tried to explain it to you. But you won't listen to me. You listen to the bible and if what I say conflicts with that then you will take the bible over me.

I'm just trying to let you know a perspective of someone who is being attacked by what you have quoted from the bible.
 
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I'm just trying to let you know a perspective of someone who is being attacked by what you have quoted from the bible.
Yes you are, but it isn't by me. And, not by God. He simply made a point. It is the other team.
2 Tim 2:26
"And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will."
God would rather set you free. Be free my friend.
 
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No, the US stands for truth justice and the American way. Israel is being attacked by terrorists on all sides, and the US has a moral duty to give Israel all the support it needs to eliminate the terrorists. By doing so, it protects the rest of the free world from these blood thirsty parasites.
So much for not getting between brothers fighting., that didnt last long.
 
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I'm not a history or biblical scholar, but from what I've personally researched on the internet.
The evidence for Jesus is not very strong at all.
There were no writings done by Jesus.
No writings by anyone who has ever met Jesus in person.

There was a mention of a "Christus" by some Roman historian (Tacitus) who didn't mention Jesus or Yesua or any name other than the title Christus and hadn't met Jesus but was just mentioning in passing what some believers said.
Paul (Saul) of course writes lots about Jesus, but he never personally met him.
There are other "evidences" but none of them seem to me to have much substance.

I'm not particularly worried if there was an actual human Jesus or not. I have no reason to want there not to be one. I just see very little substance to any of the evidence supporting a historical Jesus.
So your search was titled, "why I believe Jesus didn't exist", then you get a bunch of Luny's giving their opinion. I got ya
 
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Wow, OK. I guess you can believe that most people hat Christians if you want to.
Yes I believe it because Jesus said it, you're entitled to your opinion. Just remember there are 8 billions of opinions out there for you to chose from. Chose wisely
 
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Yes I believe it because Jesus said it, you're entitled to your opinion. Just remember there are 8 billions of opinions out there for you to chose from. Chose wisely
well, I choose my opinion. I know I don't hate Christians in general. I don't care what religion people hold.
 
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So much for not getting between brothers fighting., that didnt last long.
I have nothing against ethnic Arabs, many of them are my brothers. I was talking about the Islamic Terrorists, the Christian Arabs are not at war with the Jews.
So you didn't refute anything, you just demonstrated your lack of knowledge.
 
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well, I choose my opinion. I know I don't hate Christians in general. I don't care what religion people hold.
You don't know what's in your heart, God said the heart of man is wicked above all things, who is to know it. You may have the seeds of murder, adultery and every other vile thing in your heart, just waiting for the right opportunity to rear it's ugly head.
You don't need to physically kill someone to be guilty of murder, you only need to be angry with them without just cause and you're guilty of murder.
Be careful, because you don't know what evil your capable of, as a rouge and autonomous entity who is not accountable to anyone for his actions.
 
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I have nothing against ethnic Arabs, many of them are my brothers. I was talking about the Islamic Terrorists, the Christian Arabs are not at war with the Jews.
So you didn't refute anything, you just demonstrated your lack of knowledge.
You said:
A wise man once said, "never get between two brothers when they are fighting". I don't think the UN or the US or Europe or anyone else can resolve this fight between (half brothers). It looks like a fight to the death.
If we're to not get between brothers fighting it would make sense not to finance one brother.
 
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You don't know what's in your heart, God said the heart of man is wicked above all things, who is to know it. You may have the seeds of murder, adultery and every other vile thing in your heart, just waiting for the right opportunity to rear it's ugly head.
You don't need to physically kill someone to be guilty of murder, you only need to be angry with them without just cause and you're guilty of murder.
Be careful, because you don't know what evil your capable of, as a rouge and autonomous entity who is not accountable to anyone for his actions.
Really, Only I know what I am thinking and believing and feeling.

I am not hating Christains in general.
You can believe otherwise, but really if you want to know what I'm thinking or who I am hating, you are best to ask me, rather than read your bible. The bible tells you nothing about me, if you want to know me, then ask me questions.
 
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