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Kamala Harris’ Dangerous New Lie May End Up Costing Women’s Lives

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What I find incongruous about the the view that it is 'murder' is that there doesn't seem much direct action taking place. If I genuinely thought that it was murder that was going on I like to think I would do more than just voting conservative every few years.
Also now that they have caught the car and can make whatever laws they want they get all shy about doing anything. Not one state has added abortion to their homicide statutes. No modern Nuremberg for all who participated in this genocide they kept screaming was worse than the holocaust.
 
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Or people could just be responsible.
But they are not. That’s why the government has to coerce us into behaving. We have laws that make us pay taxes and protect each other.

It would be great if people did not need to be made to help other people but here we are.
 
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Also now that they have caught the car and can make whatever laws they want they get all shy about doing anything. Not one state has added abortion to their homicide statutes. No modern Nuremberg for all who participated in this genocide they kept screaming was worse than the holocaust.
It’s almost as if it purely a rhetorical exercise. It’s easy to complain but much harder to actually do anything about it.
 
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Really? You please tell me about all the children you’ve taken into your home.

I’ll wait.
What a PERFECT challenge coming from a pro-lifer; And the BEST part? Completely bereft of irony.

When I returned from south korea, and after a couple of mildly successful years in a mainstream classroom, I moved into social work where I worked directly with those kids. Then I worked in a youth treatment centre where I again, dedicated my life (and my mental health, sadly) to those kids. Now I am still teaching the same demographic.

I haven't welcomed them into my home but:
1) I WANT government policies that support those people and will support parties that provide them.
2) I have dedicated 15 years (and the rest of my professional life) helping those kids.
Yeah, it really is. There's so many compassion free people who either blame people for being poor or are just too selfish to support country wide initiative to support the worse off that yes, the government has to force people to be compassionate. Just like they force people to pay for roads, health care (not America obviously), education, childcare (not America obviously), maternity leave (not America obviously), pensions, dentists (not America obviously).
It's interesting for me to see Christians compartmentalizing compassion; Maybe something to emulate?
 
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Also now that they have caught the car and can make whatever laws they want they get all shy about doing anything. Not one state has added abortion to their homicide statutes. No modern Nuremberg for all who participated in this genocide they kept screaming was worse than the holocaust.
Not yet.
 
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But they are not. That’s why the government has to coerce us into behaving. We have laws that make us pay taxes and protect each other.

It would be great if people did not need to be made to help other people but here we are.
Good grief. We don’t need laws that pay people to not kill their children.
 
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Lots of people who get injured are "at fault."
Drug addicts.
Drunk drivers.
Reckless adventure seekers.
Those who attempt suicide.

They are all treated in hospitals. No one says "let them die. They are at fault."

When love of the unborn is someone's mission and he or she refuses to treat a dying woman in the hospital because she had an early term chemical abortion, the person with thise beliefs needs to do a lot of soul searching, prayer, and repentance.

Whatever the past acts of a dying person in an ER, refusing to treat is criminal negligence.
take note they get treated in hospitals for these things . ITs not like the hospital is putting them into cars drunk
Big difference . The abortion itself IS THE PROBLEM . not the solution , THE PROBLEM .
Lest you think that in hospitals people go to get drunk by doctors and put into cars to have accidents .
I noticed what you did with your word play , so i just figured i would clear things up a bit .
 
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It’s almost as if it purely a rhetorical exercise. It’s easy to complain but much harder to actually do anything about it.
It is harder to do something when there is morally bankrupt people who think abortion okie dokie in opposition.
 
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What a PERFECT challenge coming from a pro-lifer; And the BEST part? Completely bereft of irony.

When I returned from south korea, and after a couple of mildly successful years in a mainstream classroom, I moved into social work where I worked directly with those kids. Then I worked in a youth treatment centre where I again, dedicated my life (and my mental health, sadly) to those kids. Now I am still teaching the same demographic.

I haven't welcomed them into my home but:
1) I WANT government policies that support those people and will support parties that provide them.
2) I have dedicated 15 years (and the rest of my professional life) helping those kids.

It's interesting for me to see Christians compartmentalizing compassion; Maybe something to emulate?
Wouldn’t it just be easier if they were never born? Then you could do other things.
 
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Wouldn’t it just be easier if they were never born? Then you could do other things.
Actually, it would be easiest if I just took the pro-life position. Then, once they were born, I could be okay with actively work against them instead of feeling all this.....icky empathy.
 
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take note they get treated in hospitals for these things . ITs not like the hospital is putting them into cars drunk
Big difference . The abortion itself IS THE PROBLEM . not the solution , THE PROBLEM .
Lest you think that in hospitals people go to get drunk by doctors and put into cars to have accidents .
I noticed what you did with your word play , so i just figured i would clear things up a bit .
If a gang member, having killed a rival gang member and getting wounded in the process, comes to the ER bleeding out, the hospital would treat him without fear the government would put the doctor in jail.

They would treat the murderer and the government would not step in.

In other words, a murderer who was injured would be treated by the hospital--not turned away.

In your belief system, would this not make a woman who had an abortion and was bleeding out "eligible" to be treated by any hospital in the country? And would not the medical professionals who turned her away be guilty of criminal negligence if she subsequently died?
 
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take note they get treated in hospitals for these things . ITs not like the hospital is putting them into cars drunk
Big difference . The abortion itself IS THE PROBLEM . not the solution , THE PROBLEM .
Lest you think that in hospitals people go to get drunk by doctors and put into cars to have accidents .
I noticed what you did with your word play , so i just figured i would clear things up a bit .
The abortion would have saved the women’s lives, so you are correct that abortion is not the problem - the refusal to perform the abortions when needed is the problem.
 
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Good grief. We don’t need laws that pay people to not kill their children.
But we do need laws to make people help the less fortunate because some folk just don't care.
 
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It is harder to do something when there is morally bankrupt people who think abortion okie dokie in opposition.
So punish the poor because some people disagree with the abortion issue?
 
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Actually, it would be easiest if I just took the pro-life position. Then, once they were born, I could be okay with actively work against them instead of feeling all this.....icky empathy.
So you admit that you aren’t pro-life. Got it.
 
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