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Kamala Harris’ Dangerous New Lie May End Up Costing Women’s Lives

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as a total sidebar:
Why do we celebrate BIRTHdays....and not CONCEPTION days?
Maybe we should. Then maybe your support of murder of the unborn would stop.
 
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as a total sidebar:
Why do we celebrate BIRTHdays....and not CONCEPTION days?
Because you'd have to give a tax exemption nine months' earlier.
I should point out that abortion drugs must be taken in the first 44 days of pregnancy--when I last looked--when heartbeats can't be detected, so the Georgia law wouldn't apply.
 
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Save that foe the born. Do you really think their is sufficient love for those already here with us?
That's the beautiful thing about loving the unborn, though. It's very easy. Once humans are born, you actually have to deal with them.
 
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That's the beautiful thing about loving the unborn, though. It's very easy. Once humans are born, you actually have to deal with them.
I know right?
Protecting the unborn is LITERALLY the easiest gig there is a christian. I think that's why some people glom onto it so easily. There is nothing complicated about it.

And not only that...the best part? IT actually has an EXPIRY date! You only have to REALLY love them until they're born! And then the advocacy can stop. You don't have to fight NEARLY as hard for them anymore!
 
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That's the beautiful thing about loving the unborn, though. It's very easy. Once humans are born, you actually have to deal with them.
Much better to kill them first.
 
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Protecting the unborn is LITERALLY the easiest gig there is a christian. I think that's why some people glom onto it so easily. There is nothing complicated about it.

And not only that...the best part? IT actually has an EXPIRY date! You only have to REALLY love them until they're born! And then the advocacy can stop. You don't have to fight NEARLY as hard for them anymore!
Kill em first. Then you don’t need to worry.
 
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Kill em first. Then you don’t need to worry.
I worry about the born live ones more than anything that is mom's business. You might find that type of advocacy (you know, for children in poverty) would ACTUALLY have a positive impact on people instead of making people's lives that much more miserable.
 
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I worry about the born live ones more than anything that is mom's business. You might find that type of advocacy (you know, for children in poverty) would ACTUALLY have a positive impact on people instead of making people's lives that much more miserable.
That in no way is a rebuttal. You don’t seem to worry about the unborn ones at all. In fact, you imply that it’s better to kill them than have them live in poverty.
 
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That in no way is a rebuttal. You don’t seem to worry about the unborn ones at all. In fact, you imply that it’s better to kill them than have them live in poverty.
Go to reddit. Read an antinatalist sub. I'm not saying it's better. I'm saying they can decide given their own personal context.

I worry about the fetuses whose mother's worries about them.
Until they're born.
Then I worry about the children who's mother doesn't properly care for them.

I feel like we may be doing the opposite of each other.
 
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What I find incongruous about the the view that it is 'murder' is that there doesn't seem much direct action taking place. If I genuinely thought that it was murder that was going on I like to think I would do more than just voting conservative every few years. It has been said in this thread that it is easy to care about the unborn but apparently less so with the born.

I compare this in my head with the way that conservative law makers seem dead set on cutting funding for schemes that would make parents and children's lives easier.
 
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What I find incongruous about the the view that it is 'murder' is that there doesn't seem much direct action taking place. If I genuinely thought that it was murder that was going on I like to think I would do more than just voting conservative every few years. It has been said in this thread that it is easy to care about the unborn but apparently less so with the born.

I compare this in my head with the way that conservative law makers seem dead set on cutting funding for schemes that would make parents and children's lives easier.
There are some people who appear to put in some effort. Like this guy:

 
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Go to reddit. Read an antinatalist sub. I'm not saying it's better. I'm saying they can decide given their own personal context.

I worry about the fetuses whose mother's worries about them.
Until they're born.
Then I worry about the children who's mother doesn't properly care for them.

I feel like we may be doing the opposite of each other.
Really? You please tell me about all the children you’ve taken into your home.

I’ll wait.
 
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What I find incongruous about the the view that it is 'murder' is that there doesn't seem much direct action taking place. If I genuinely thought that it was murder that was going on I like to think I would do more than just voting conservative every few years. It has been said in this thread that it is easy to care about the unborn but apparently less so with the born.

I compare this in my head with the way that conservative law makers seem dead set on cutting funding for schemes that would make parents and children's lives easier.
Let’s say that there is gross hypocrisy within the pro life movement, and that very little care is given to infants once they are born. How does this justify taking the life of the unborn?
 
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It was certainly implied.
Not at all. I can point out hypocrisy without supporting abortion. That would be against the T/C I agreed to when I signed up to this website.
 
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Not at all. I can point out hypocrisy without supporting abortion. That would be against the T/C I agreed to when I signed up to this website.
Fair enough. Why do you think that the government should make parents and children’s lives easier?
 
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That is not the job of the government.
Yeah, it really is. There's so many compassion free people who either blame people for being poor or are just too selfish to support country wide initiative to support the worse off that yes, the government has to force people to be compassionate. Just like they force people to pay for roads, health care (not America obviously), education, childcare (not America obviously), maternity leave (not America obviously), pensions, dentists (not America obviously).
 
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Yeah, it really is. There's so many compassion free people who either blame people for being poor or are just too selfish to support country wide initiative to support the worse off that yes, the government has to force people to be compassionate. Just like they force people to pay for roads, health care (not America obviously), education, childcare (not America obviously), maternity leave (not America obviously), pensions, dentists (not America obviously).
Or people could just be responsible.
 
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