FLAT or ROUND Earth?

[Apple Sky]

1. During the lunar eclipse, you can see the shape of the Earth on the Moon
2. Sunsets - sometimes, you can see the clouds lit from below, after the Sun is gone behind the horizon
3. You can see satellites or the ISS, if you time and position your telescope properly

1. How ?
2. This doesn't mean that the earth orbits the sun.
3. No you can't.

 

[trophy33]

1. How ?
2. This doesn't mean that the earth orbits the sun.
3. No you can't.

Put some more effort to your reactions, this is not worthy of any detailed discussion.

Your question how the lunar eclipse works was explained to you at least 3 times by me alone. And your answers are like an 8-year old with fingers in ears, repeating "no, no, no".

 

[Strong in Him]

Wow - Where do you preach ?

In the North Cheshire Methodist circuit - which also includes 2 churches over the border in N Wales.

 

[Apple Sky]

So then the sky is flat also?

No just the earth, the sky is our atmosphere which is under the firmament/dome.

 

[Apple Sky]

Your question how the lunar eclipse works was explained to you at least 3 times by me alone

No it hasn't.

 

[Apple Sky]

In the North Cheshire Methodist circuit - which also includes 2 churches over the border in N Wales.

I'm impressed

 

[trophy33]

No it hasn't.

You are either childishly lying, trolling or you have some memory problems. Any of these makes you unsuited for online forums.

In any case, you can always google such elementary things, you do not need to rely on us to explain them to you again and again, every day anew.

 

[prodromos]

This doesn't mean that the earth orbits the sun

Of course not. It means the earth is a rotating sphere.

 

[Apple Sky]

You are either childishly lying, trolling or you have some memory problems. Any of these makes you unsuited for online forums.

And where does this leave you ?

 

[trophy33]

And where does this leave you ?

I am not doing any of these things, so nowhere. Thanks for asking.

 

[Apple Sky]

Of course not. It means the earth is a rotating sphere.

Claims your fairy tale tellers.

If the earth is a rotating sphere, the Bible should indicate towards a rotating sphere but it doesn't, the Bible instead indicates towards a level stationary earth.

 

[Apple Sky]

I am not doing any of these things, so nowhere.

Glad to hear it, by the way where is nowhere ?

 

[trophy33]

Glad to hear it, by the way where is nowhere ?

Stop trolling.

 

[prodromos]

Claims your fairy tale tellers.

No, I am stating it from my own observations

If the earth is a rotating sphere, the Bible should indicate towards a rotating sphere

Why "should" it? Why does God have to describe things that would make no sense to peoples who had no telescopes, no means of travelling vast distances in a short time and no means of reaching high enough altitudes to witness the enormity of the globe?

but it doesn't,

and it doesn't need to

the Bible instead indicates towards a level stationary earth.

We've established that your interpretation of Scripture leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[Apple Sky]

Stop trolling.

I'm serious, where is nowhere ?

 

[trophy33]

I'm serious, where is nowhere ?

In the same place as the flat earth or the firmament are.

 

[Strong in Him]

Claims your fairy tale tellers.

If the earth is a rotating sphere, the Bible should indicate towards a rotating sphere

The Bible is not a science textbook!
It is not its, or God's, purpose to explain astronomy, biology etc.

 

[d taylor]

Quite the opposite; I don't think you've been following this discussion.

You said, in post #1,448, that there is no mention in Genesis 1 of God creating a universe. I replied that there is also no mention of God creating our brain, spinal cord or nervous system; that doesn't mean they don't exist.
In post #1,454 you said that the creation accounts are in Genesis 1&2; "sounds like a creation account that is well documented." I repeated that the creation accounts do not go into detail, like how God created our brains, etc.
You then said, in post #1,457 that to get my creation account I had to go outside the Bible, which is like saying that Jesus isn't enough. Also I should explore Hinduism and Buddhism to get the whole of God's message. I repeated that the Bible isn't a science textbook and does not tell us everything. Later, you replied that science is a system of the world and you weren't sure why any believer would accept scientific beliefs about God's creation, post #1,492.

Now you are asking if I require God to give complete, intricate details about his creation before I believe him. Do I need him to explain the phases of the moon to me, etc?
Of course I don't. Genesis 1 says THAT God created the world; it gives no detail about how he did it.

Listen, all flat earth believers; I am a Christian - a born again, Spirit-filled child of God - who believes Genesis 1. The first chapter of the Bible tells us that God created the world, skies, seas etc. I believe that.
It does not tell us HOW he created it or give us details; it does not tell us the shape of the earth. That is not the purpose of the Bible. To find that out, you need to consult people who have taken the time to study such things, and who know.
DON'T jump to the conclusion that because I point out this obvious fact that I believe in evolution and doubt God's word. I read, study, believe and preach the Bible.

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Ok well lets say you believe humanity came about from God creating Adam (man) as stated in Genesis 1. So you do not believe humans came about by God using evolution a scientific belief held by all of the scientific world.

But there is no details Genesis 1 just states God created man male and female.

Now God also states back up in Genesis 1 that God created two great lights and the stars also. But now there is no detail in this creation account also. but unlike the creation of man. You do not believe that God created the moon as a great light, even though that is stated in the verse. But now you resort to and believe what science states that the moon reflects the suns light and does not give off its own light. That God did not actually create a great light but a light reflector.

So why do you believe the Genesis account about God creating man but do not believe the creation account about God creating a great light, the moon.

 

[d taylor]

Just facts. Its a fact that we orbit around the sun, that we are in space and all other basic things. Thats why many churches (rather all churches) accept it.

Some few uneducated individuals who are unable to answer any real questions, living in their autistic conspiratorial bubbles, cannot change it.

Even if you do not understand math, elementary physics, the inspiration of the Bible, dismiss photos, videos and live streams from space and call many people who saw the globe liars, you can see that the Earth is not flat from our common experience.

1. During the lunar eclipse, you can see the shape of the Earth on the Moon
2. Sunsets - sometimes, you can see the clouds lit from below, after the Sun is gone behind the horizon
3. You can see satellites or the ISS, if you time and position your telescope properly; Musk's satellites are actually becoming a problem for astronomers, because they are so many, bright and visible

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Want to see a real photo of the Iss i took. It is obvious some type of flying contraption that lights up and is not lit by the sun

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[prodromos]

So you do not believe humans came about by God using evolution a scientific belief held by all of the scientific world.​

There are many in the scientific community who reject evolution. Read a little on "intelligent design" if you want to learn more about these people.

Now God also states back up in Genesis 1 that God created two great lights and the stars also. But now there is no detail in this creation account also. but unlike the creation of man. You do not believe that God created the moon as a great light, even though that is stated in the verse. But now you resort to and believe what science states that the moon reflects the suns light and does not give off its own light. That God did not actually create a great light but a light reflector.

A reflector is just as much a source of light as an emitter, but it will always be a lesser light than the emitter.