FLAT or ROUND Earth?

[BobRyan]

Isaiah 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

Aramaic Bible - Plain English
And him who sits on the sphere of The Earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretched out the Heavens like a vaulted bowl, and stretched them out as a tent for a dwelling

Douay-Rheims Bible
It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.


Job 26:10
He has marked a circle on the surface of the waters
At the boundary of light and darkness.

The intersection of a ball with a plain is a circle.

The light from the Sun at the edge points on Earth - forms a circle around the Earth only because Earth is not a flat object. If it were not a sphere that would not happen.

The plain of sunlight at Earth's edge - intersects in the form of a circle around the Earth. I you put a ball into a flat paper object larger than the ball - you get a cutout in the form of a circle.

 

[BobRyan]

I hear a lot of Christians saying that we live on a flat earth and nobody can go in or out the earth. Is the Bible clear on this subject?

The Bible does not say that

 

[Apple Sky]

You can figure it out, just try.

Yes & it's not very nice.

 

[Apple Sky]

Job 26:10
He has marked a circle on the surface of the waters
At the boundary of light and darkness.

The intersection of a ball with a plain is a circle.

The light from the Sun at the edge points on Earth - forms a circle around the Earth only because Earth is not a flat object. If it were not a sphere that would not happen.

You make some good points here

 

[Tinker Grey]

Yes & it's not very nice.

You were asked "is or isn't". You answered "yes". Get it?

 

[Apple Sky]

You were asked "is or isn't". You answered "yes". Get it?

I were asked, 'You can figure it out, just try' & I answered Yes, meaning I had figured it out & it weren't very nice.

 

[Tinker Grey]

I were asked, 'You can figure it out, just try' & I answered Yes, meaning I had figured it out & it weren't very nice.

That's not what happened.

Extraterrestrial, ET, aliens; same difference.
You haven't answered my question; is the deception that there is alien life, or that there isn't?

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Extra - Terre (earth)...........

Answer to your question - Yes.

Trolling again?

What is that supposed to mean ?

You can figure it out, just try.

Yes & it's not very nice.

You were asked "is or isn't". You answered "yes". Get it?

 

[Bradskii]

You make some good points here

Have you measured Swansea to Cardiff yet? It's actually important.

 

[Apple Sky]

Have you measured Swansea to Cardiff yet? It's actually important.

No not yet but will do.

 

[d taylor]

But it doesn't give detail!
I've asked you to show me the verses in Genesis 1 which explain how God made our brains, decided to give us two hands or chose to give an animal fur instead of skin.
You haven't done so because you can't. Genesis 1 does not give us that level of detail.

If you want to remain in complete ignorance of biology, human biology, genetics, zoology or astronomy; no reason at all.
Unless you want to have a discussion, or debate, about it - which is what you're doing here.


All I said was that you cannot learn about biology, or human biology, from Genesis 1. THAT is a fact.


I wouldn't normally be so blunt - but you are talking rubbish.

I have said several times that I am not scientific.
I have not been talking about evolution, nor have I said that I accept it.
Read my words carefully - we cannot learn human biology from Genesis 1. That is not its purpose. God did not sit down with Moses, or whoever, and say "now this is what I need you to know about how I made your spine/brain".

What science have I rejected? I thought science was supposed to be pagan and evil?



I haven't even mentioned evolution.

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So for you to believe the creation account, you require God to give complete details about creation. For an example for you to believe the moon is a created light that gives off its own light. God would have had to give all creation details on how the moon works and goes through phases, etc....

 

[Apple Sky]

That's not what happened.


{Emphasis added}

No I don't get it.

 

[d taylor]

Thats not how it works.

1. Bible is not a scientific library, therefore it does not matter when scientific theories depart from the biblical imagery.
2. Honest scientific endeavor to understand the mechanisms of nature is not the meaning of the word deception, it may be a mistake, at worst. You are still trying to slide into silly religious extremism.


The movement of our planet around the sun is not a theory, its a fact. The theory of evolution has nothing to do with Jesus' return. Alien life is a possibility, its not a scientific theory. You seem to be quite disoriented in various terms and therefore constantly falling into various mistakes.

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Only deceptions, no facts. The Catholic church already teaches evolution, big bang, etc is how God worked. I am sure the off shoots do to like the Episcopal church, probably all churches in Europe, etc.....

 

[Apple Sky]

Proverbs 3:19-21
By wisdom the LORD laid the earth’s foundations, by understanding he set the heavens in place. By His knowledge the watery depths were broken open, and the clouds dripped with dew. My son, do not lose sight of this: Preserve sound judgment and discernment.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

So then the sky is flat also?

 

[DennisF]

That's b/c space doesn't exist & the firmament does.

King James Bible
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

Uh, pardon my ignorance but could you explain
1. what you do not understand about three-dimensional space, an idea familiar to even children; and
2. what exactly, in ordinary language of today - scientific included as long as it is not in the form of word salad - is the firmament?

 

[trophy33]

Yes & it's not very nice.

Others explained it to you, again. You are surprisingly clueless about many things. Or, pretending/trolling.

 

[trophy33]

Only deceptions, no facts. The Catholic church already teaches evolution, big bang, etc is how God worked. I am sure the off shoots do to like the Episcopal church, probably all churches in Europe, etc.....

Just facts. Its a fact that we orbit around the sun, that we are in space and all other basic things. Thats why many churches (rather all churches) accept it.

Some few uneducated individuals who are unable to answer any real questions, living in their autistic conspiratorial bubbles, cannot change it.

Even if you do not understand math, elementary physics, the inspiration of the Bible, dismiss photos, videos and live streams from space and call many people who saw the globe liars, you can see that the Earth is not flat from our common experience.

1. During the lunar eclipse, you can see the shape of the Earth on the Moon
2. Sunsets - sometimes, you can see the clouds lit from below, after the Sun is gone behind the horizon
3. You can see satellites or the ISS, if you time and position your telescope properly; Musk's satellites are actually becoming a problem for astronomers, because they are so many, bright and visible

 

[Strong in Him]

So for you to believe the creation account, you require God to give complete details about creation. For an example for you to believe the moon is a created light that gives off its own light. God would have had to give all creation details on how the moon works and goes through phases, etc....​

Quite the opposite; I don't think you've been following this discussion.

You said, in post #1,448, that there is no mention in Genesis 1 of God creating a universe. I replied that there is also no mention of God creating our brain, spinal cord or nervous system; that doesn't mean they don't exist.
In post #1,454 you said that the creation accounts are in Genesis 1&2; "sounds like a creation account that is well documented." I repeated that the creation accounts do not go into detail, like how God created our brains, etc.
You then said, in post #1,457 that to get my creation account I had to go outside the Bible, which is like saying that Jesus isn't enough. Also I should explore Hinduism and Buddhism to get the whole of God's message. I repeated that the Bible isn't a science textbook and does not tell us everything. Later, you replied that science is a system of the world and you weren't sure why any believer would accept scientific beliefs about God's creation, post #1,492.

Now you are asking if I require God to give complete, intricate details about his creation before I believe him. Do I need him to explain the phases of the moon to me, etc?
Of course I don't. Genesis 1 says THAT God created the world; it gives no detail about how he did it.

Listen, all flat earth believers; I am a Christian - a born again, Spirit-filled child of God - who believes Genesis 1. The first chapter of the Bible tells us that God created the world, skies, seas etc. I believe that.
It does not tell us HOW he created it or give us details; it does not tell us the shape of the earth. That is not the purpose of the Bible. To find that out, you need to consult people who have taken the time to study such things, and who know.
DON'T jump to the conclusion that because I point out this obvious fact that I believe in evolution and doubt God's word. I read, study, believe and preach the Bible.

 

[Apple Sky]

2. what exactly, in ordinary language of today - scientific included as long as it is not in the form of word salad - is the firmament?

It is the barrier that stops this from happening;

Mark Sargent Proof of the Firmament

Original Source : Kyle Adams https://www.youtube.com/@FlatEarthKyle Mark Sargent https://www.[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ute.com/channel/IkcA3vuyxx6n/ https://www.youtube.com/@markksargent God's Flat Earth - Rumble https://

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[Apple Sky]

I read, study, believe and preach the Bible.

Wow - Where do you preach ?