Ohio Sheriff: "Write Down All the Addresses" of Harris Supporters, Calls Illegal Immigrants "Locusts"

[durangodawood]

....So if the Bible tells me something is okay, then it's okay. You have no authority over my tongue. Your not my husband.

Constitution 101.....

I didn't claim authority over you, nor do I want it. How did that get to be an issue here?

 

[Hazelelponi]

I didn't claim authority over you, nor do I want it. How did that get to be an issue here?

I was just pointing out freedom of religion and speech.

I figured it needed pointed out.

A lot of people are attacking others over simple speech they don't like - not because it's untrue, but simply because they don't like that it highlights and paints bad policies as exactly that. Bad policies that hurt people.

 

[durangodawood]

I was just pointing out freedom of religion and speech.

I figured it needed pointed out.

A lot of people are attacking others over simple speech they don't like - not because it's untrue, but simply because they don't like that it highlights and paints bad policies as exactly that. Bad policies that hurt people.

Do you think theres something wrong in principle with criticism of others speech when its reprehensible or just wrong.

The US Constitution has nothing to do with that - except that it protects your right to do so from govt action.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Do you think theres something wrong in principle with criticism of others speech when its reprehensible or just wrong.

It's not reprehensible to use a locust descriptor, as has been pointed out by my brothers and I clearly.

The US Constitution has nothing to do with that - except that it protects your right to do so from govt action.

Oh the far left can attack us over speech. There's no doubt since they do and are. But you're not using the right measure to mete.

Since this is in fact a Christian forum I thought to point it out.

 

[durangodawood]

It's not reprehensible to use a locust descriptor, as has been pointed out by my brothers and I clearly.

Forget about locusts for a second. Im asking you about whether criticism of the speech of others is wrong in principle. So far youve indicated you think it is wrong.

Oh the far left can attack us over speech. There's no doubt since they do and are. But you're not using the right measure to mete.

Since this is in fact a Christian forum I thought to point it out.

Do you decide you think the Bible is correct?.... or is that decision made for you in some way?

 

[Hans Blaster]

One would think that this is the bare minimum one needs to do to be passable at their job. Doesn't speak to highly about the local workforce if that's what gets you praise around those parts.

There was a labor shortage. When you are low on experienced workers, new hires are a real mixed bag. A lot of these people probably wouldn't be hired if there were a pool of better workers available, or if they did get hired they'd be let go rather soon.

 

[FireDragon76]

Called nearly every major city and many small ones.

There's migrant problems (overcrowding strained resources etc) in Chicago, New York, California, Texas, Colorado etc etc.

It's a spreading issue because no one will close the border to everyone in the world.

I have not been willing to wait until my town is drowning to say hey, let's stop the stupidity.

Bad public policy has consequences for everyone.

It's past time to create some good ones...

The main thing illegal immigration does is drive up the cost of housing and it puts downward wage pressure on certain kinds of jobs. Everything else is mostly nonsense.

But like I said elsewhere, this has little to do with the southern border in the US. Every industrialized country is having problems with immigration right now. Businesses like cheap labor and the flexibility brought by a nomadic workforce, and sometimes a consequence of that is people overstay their visas.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I think Hillary was identifying certain people she found deplorable. If a person didn't belong in the basket, then she wasn't talking about them.

This is obvious from the context. But the context deflates the attempt at rage baiting.

On the other hand, we have the guy who successfully got the White House in 2016 who says all sorts of outrageous things, but his fan club wants to consistently tell us that he means something else, or that we can't take his words at face value, or that he is being misrepresented.

The guy who said "When Mexico sends its people, its not sending its best" and we aren't supposed to believe said anything negative about Mexican immigrants when he spoke of Mexico sending its worse, saying they are rapists, criminals, and drug-peddlers, and who has continued to spread nasty things about immigrants from south of the American border as well as immigrants (here legally or illegally, it doesn't matter) such as doubling and tripling down on the lies being told online about the Haitian community in Ohio--well we are just misunderstanding him. He's not a racist, a xenophobe, and a fear-mongering grifter who is incapable of distinguishing fact and fiction. No, he is a stable genius. He's not racist, that's just what the "liberal media" the "mainstream media" is telling us. He's not xenophobic, that's just lies from the left, what the lying "fake news" is saying. He's not xenophobic or saying xenophobic things, those are lies--but also, we need to be afraid of all these scary immigrants because they are "poisoning the blood" of the nation. It's not xenophobia, it's just be very concerned, afraid, and angry about all these foreigners.

*drops two pennies down the well* that's what I got today.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[rjs330]

But those aren't facts, now are they.

Saying that a person is "strong as a bull" isn't a statement of fact.

We all understand what a fact is here, don't we?

-CryptoLutheran

Neither is calling someone swarming like locusts. Get over it. I proved you in error.

 

[rjs330]

I'd rather get rid of name calling from both sides all together.

They are both guilty of it.

(NO! I'm not accusing anyone HERE of doing it, just from my own observations).

Yep I agree. But I'm not going to stop.pointing out the hypocrisy of this from the left. I'm going to.do it every time.

 

[loveofourlord]

The main thing illegal immigration does is drive up the cost of housing and it puts downward wage pressure on certain kinds of jobs. Everything else is mostly nonsense.

But like I said elsewhere, this has little to do with the southern border in the US. Every industrialized country is having problems with immigration right now. Businesses like cheap labor and the flexibility brought by a nomadic workforce, and sometimes a consequence of that is people overstay their visas.

and wage pressure isn't even really true alot of the time, as the jobs ilegals are doing, are the jobs that the buisnesses can't get americans to do. Most americans arn't wanting to go pick fruit even at decent wages in the hot sun.

 

[rjs330]

And works at previously open jobs like a locust? Yeah, doesn't quite work. You are still saying that they have brought nothing to the community and merely consume and devour, which isn't true. It's dehumanising, no matter how you try to spin it.

I'm not the one saying they are consuming resources. It's the people on the ground who live there. Your beef is with them not me. Why don't you go there and tell them they ought to shut up about what they are experiencing.

 

[rjs330]

One would think that this is the bare minimum one needs to do to be passable at their job. Doesn't speak to highly about the local workforce if that's what gets you praise around those parts.

That's the American worker for you. It's kind of interesting that the left spends it's time demonizing CEOs and bosses for complaining about workers and spend their time defending the workers who aren't like the Haitians and then turn around and tell us how wonderful the Haitians are for working like the CEOs want Americans to work.

Man the left doesn't really know what it wants. The inconsistency is unbelievable.

 

[Nithavela]

That's the American worker for you. It's kind of interesting that the left spends it's time demonizing CEOs and bosses for complaining about workers and spend their time defending the workers who aren't like the Haitians and then turn around and tell us how wonderful the Haitians are for working like the CEOs want Americans to work.

Man the left doesn't really know what it wants. The inconsistency is unbelievable.

I think that any employer wants their workers to work like that, and is totally in their right to do so. That doesn't meant some employers don't exploit their workforce.

 

[7thKeeper]

I'm not the one saying they are consuming resources. It's the people on the ground who live there. Your beef is with them not me. Why don't you go there and tell them they ought to shut up about what they are experiencing.

No, sorry, you used that language yourself to describe them as such (locusts), own up to it instead of trying to pass the blame to others. Haven't heard any locals describe the Haitians as locusts so far.

 

[Desk trauma]

the time, as the jobs ilegals are doing, are the jobs that the buisnesses can't get americans to do.

…for the pay offered. Why does that part get left off?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Neither is calling someone swarming like locusts. Get over it. I proved you in error.

You're right, calling people a swarm of locusts is not, in fact, a fact. That means you are in agreement with me, not that you proved me in error.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[iluvatar5150]

I love how the solution to low wages is never to raise the minimum wage; it's always to get rid of the immigrants. Then when wages (maybe) rise, people complain about inflation and how the elevated prices mean that those workers now can't afford anything.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I love how the solution to low wages is never to raise the minimum wage; it's always to get rid of the immigrants. Then when wages (maybe) rise, people complain about inflation and how the elevated prices mean that those workers now can't afford anything.

Sometimes the solution is cutting regular employee wages (but it's never lowering or cutting CEO wages). It's always the fault of the regular working people, and they are the ones who are always supposed to suffer for the betterment of the yacht-owning class.

One of these days it'll trickle down, you just gotta have faith. *Salutes giant portrait of Ronald Reagan while 80's synth music plays*

-CryptoLutheran

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

lol wut? Most insults are “merely descriptive language.” Would you be okay if I went around calling you and other conservatives “locusts”? I would expect to get banned in a heartbeat.

Laughing. "Locusts" is about the least terrible thing the players on the main stage are calling conservatives these days.