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Bomb threats reported at City Hall, multiple other buildings in Springfield, Ohio

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"During a Monday press briefing, in which he shared other security measures, DeWine made clear that the threats were not only "hoaxes," but that they were blamed on people from "overseas," including "from one particular country."

"So 33 threats, 33 hoaxes. I'll make that very, very clear. None of these had any validity at all," the governor stated.
It doesn't matter if they are hoaxes or where the calls are coming from. They are still terroristic threats and they are affecting people's lives in a negative way. Buildings are evacuated, businesses loose money, schools and universities are closed, children can't go to school, and people in Springfield have to live in a constant state of fear.
 
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The Governor of Ohio just announced who made the threats:

"During a Monday press briefing, in which he shared other security measures, DeWine made clear that the threats were not only "hoaxes," but that they were blamed on people from "overseas," including "from one particular country."

"So 33 threats, 33 hoaxes. I'll make that very, very clear. None of these had any validity at all," the governor stated.
Did you think that someone was really going to blow up a school? Those in charge can't take any risks, even if the chances of it happening are virtually nil. But it disrupts people. It scares people. It didn't need to happen - because as Vance has told you himself, he'll literally make up stories to do that very thing. To frighten people.

Do you want these people in the White House?
 
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Do you want these people in the White House?
You did notice the threats are originating in a Foreign Nation. Foreign Nationals are making those threats.
And no, Vance did not make them do it.
Yes, if the foreign nationals are making threats and there are foreign nationals whose allegiance is to that nations, the citizens of Springfield should be afraid, of the foreign nationals.
Who do I want in the White House? People who don't dump an army of foreign nationals on a small town and demand the small town take care of the nationals. Quartering foreign troops is a definition that might be applied.
 
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'“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do...' JD Vance admits to making up crazy stories to get press attention and says he'll continue doing it
That is not what Vance said:
“My constituents have brought approximately a dozen separate concerns to me. Ten of them are verifiable and confirmable, and a couple of them I talk about because my constituents are telling me firsthand that they’re seeing these things,” Vance said. He also dismissed local officials’ findings that there was no evidence to support the claims, saying, “They’ve said they don’t have all the evidence.”

Vance did not make the story up out of a whole cloth. He was repeating what his constituents were reporting to him. Allegations, yes but allegations should be investigated.


Now, the issue you so casually ducked was the fact that foreigners from a foreign country are making threats against American Towns.
That is international terrorism.
Intimidation of American citizens and interference in an election, aided and abetted by the mainstream media who was screaming it was Trump supporters. What a joke and not one is publishing the Ohio Governors remarks. Not One.
 
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That is not what Vance said...
I literally quoted him.
Intimidation of American citizens and interference in an election, aided and abetted by the mainstream media who was screaming it was Trump supporters.
And whoever is doing it, it is based on a lie. Repeated even in the debate.
What a joke and not one is publishing the Ohio Governors remarks. Not One.











I could go on.
 
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Intimidation of American citizens and interference in an election...
And now look who has turned up: Far-right Proud Boys descend on Springfield as local GOP slams Trump

'The far-right Proud Boys descended on Springfield, Ohio, as Donald Trump doubled down on his promise to visit the town at the center of pet-eating rumors.

Members of the group were spotted marching amid reports that the KKK has been distributing recruitment leaflets in a town that has been hit by a wave of bomb threats directed at schools and colleges.'

Someone is going to get hurt. And it will be Trump and Vance's fault.
 
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I could go on.
And one more
During a Monday press briefing, in which he shared other security measures, DeWine made clear that the threats were not only "hoaxes," but that they were blamed on people from "overseas," including "from one particular country."
"So 33 threats, 33 hoaxes. I'll make that very, very clear. None of these had any validity at all," the governor stated.

 
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Members of the group were spotted marching amid reports that the KKK has been distributing recruitment leaflets in a town that has been hit by a wave of bomb threats directed at schools and colleges.'
Some people really need to get out more.
Please, Read the Link. The FBI has infiltrated the KKK to the point where the KKK is an undercover sting operation and tool of the FBI. And now the Proud Boys are also FBI agents? Interesting. A trap for unwary teenagers and disgruntled old fools. What a joke

 
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And one more
You said no-one was reporting it. I gave you a dozen instances of news outlets doing just that. And it's all based on a lie. And do you realise that Trump is still lying about it? In his Arizona rally he again refers to the Haitians as 'illegal'. They are not illegal. And you'll have any number of articles where the governor is saying that they are welcomed by local businesses.

Here's a video showing him doing that at the 1:45 mark.

So you have Trump lying in a way that will put these people at risk and if you got that far in the video you'll have passed Vance saying that he's going to make these stories up.
 
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Some people really need to get out more.
Please, Read the Link. The FBI has infiltrated the KKK to the point where the KKK is an undercover sting operation and tool of the FBI. And now the Proud Boys are also FBI agents? Interesting. A trap for unwary teenagers and disgruntled old fools. What a joke
Oh, good grief...

I'm going to have to leave you in this alternative reality that Trump and Vance are constructing.
 
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And now look who has turned up: Far-right Proud Boys descend on Springfield as local GOP slams Trump

'The far-right Proud Boys descended on Springfield, Ohio, as Donald Trump doubled down on his promise to visit the town at the center of pet-eating rumors.

Members of the group were spotted marching amid reports that the KKK has been distributing recruitment leaflets in a town that has been hit by a wave of bomb threats directed at schools and colleges.'

Someone is going to get hurt. And it will be Trump and Vance's fault.
Funny Trumps the only one they keep trying to kill
 
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@Bradskii said "Someone is going to get hurt."
Yeah. Haitian families. Legal immigrants. Doing their best to earn a crust after managing to leave one of the most dangerous places to live on the planet. They don't need this garbage and lies spread about them. They haven't got Secret Service guys tooled up to the max to protect them.

 
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You did notice the threats are originating in a Foreign Nation. Foreign Nationals are making those threats.
Now, the issue you so casually ducked was the fact that foreigners from a foreign country are making threats against American Towns.
That is international terrorism.
There are up to 9 million Americans that live abroad. You have no way of knowing the nationality of those making the threats.
 
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Yeah. Haitian families. Legal immigrants. Doing their best to earn a crust after managing to leave one of the most dangerous places to live on the planet. They don't need this garbage and lies spread about them. They haven't got Secret Service guys tooled up to the max to protect them.

I know how bad it is in their country. Has there been any violence against Haitian immigrants in Springfield?
 
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I know how bad it is in their country. Has there been any violence against Haitian immigrants in Springfield?
I don't see why there might be. It's not like people are being told that they are there illegally, taking jobs from honest Americans and...I dunno, eating their pets. But if that did happen, do you think that some idiots like the Proud Boys or the KKK might take some action? No, of course not. They're just guys from the FBI playing dress up. It's on the internet, don't you know. So it must be true.

Yeah, that's right. People actually believe that. So thinking that a family which has lived with violence every single day and has managed to escape that is skinning and BBQing your pet pooch is no real stretch, is it...

Trump and Vance are lying to you. You know that as a fact. But there are waaay too many people who either can't or don't want to believe it. He's already lit the fire. Now he's fanning the flames.
 
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